VV mod kit or starter kit?

[sh_]

Hello guys,

I noticed that theres alot of options for VV, lots of mods and also lots of starter kits that you can find.

Healthcabin has a bunch of them and basically I found lots of models that all other vendors have too.

I got a Riva510 SE 650mAh and after while using 3.3V I am feeling like I would have to test cartos with different voltage and resistance until I reach the perfect setup.

Maybe I am asking too much or still have high expetations on it, but I fell like if I have any issue on my Riva I will have to order additional batteries and it will be more expensive than just get a VV mod or something that I can just replace the battery.

In other hand I found that theres alot of different batteries and its even worse to decide which one would be better.

So my newbie question is, is there any VV kit or mod that would really worth to buy and thats not like a square box thats too big to carry in the pocket ?

The Riva size is perfect for me and it fits well in my pocket, is there anything that really worth a try and still have about the same size?

Whats really the advantage in VV and whats the best/recommended carto to use and would make the difference (tastewise).

 

[Shel]

Maybe I am asking too much or still have high expetations on it, but I fell like if I have any issue on my Riva I will have to order additional batteries and it will be more expensive than just get a VV mod or something that I can just replace the battery.

So my newbie question is, is there any VV kit or mod that would really worth to buy and thats not like a square box thats too big to carry in the pocket ?

The Riva size is perfect for me and it fits well in my pocket, is there anything that really worth a try and still have about the same size?

Whats really the advantage in VV and whats the best/recommended carto to use and would make the difference (tastewise).

First off, I would suggest you get a variable voltage device.

Period. End of sentence.

You cannot get the same amount of vapor, the warmth, using a 3.3 or 3.7 volt device. That's my opinion.

If you previously smoked, you probably carried a pack of cigs in your pocket. The smaller variable volt box mods are smaller and lighter then a pack of smokes (well, without a tank or carto... with a tank, their probably about the same weight, or very close)

Check out MadVapes.

They carry a small, variable volt box mod, with voltage indicator for about $43, but I believe they're currently out of stock. They also have variable voltage box without the voltage indicator, for $30!

There are plenty of other vendors that sell similar box mods. I'm sure all of them work well, but read the reviews!

With a VV device, you can try out different resistance attys/cartos, and easily turn the voltage up if you're not getting a strong enough vape, or turn it down, if you find the device is burning the juice or it's simply too hot.

Inexpensive way to check out what all the excitement is about variable voltage!

 

[cskent]

If you're wanting the small form factor of the eGo/Riva but still want to go VV there's the VV eGo. Although it's not a true VV, it does give you the option of several voltage settings. A few places sell them by different names.

VP Ego Pass-Through Battery

 

[donnah]

I love my madvapes vv box! It holds its set voltage till the batts die. It also holds its voltage underload very well. Its small and very comfortable to hold. A great value!
as with any vv device without a led readout, you'll need a voltmeter. Madvapes sells them seperate for $15 or you could get the newer vv box that has the voltmeter included.

I like the seperate voltmeter,that way I can use it on other devices and check both voltage and the voltage underload

 

[Jim Bob]

How (exactly) do you go about checking for voltage underload?

 

[sh_]

Yeah I saw a few of those Ego's/Riva's VV 3.3 to 4.7V. My only question is if they are reliable enough to worth a try.

Now considering the VV mod from madvapes, it is interesting indeed, but the only problem is that I have to put it together and I dont have the tools for that Any suggestion? Is theres an option to buy it ready to be used?

 

[Jim Bob]

Check this out

Variable Voltage Box Mod

I am debating between one of these and Max Vapor (runs cooler) have not made up my mind yet, I know MV ships fast I assume Max does also Todd seems like a good guy so still debating LOL

 

[donnah]

you screw on the voltmeter to the device, then screw the carto/atty onto the voltmeter and press the button.. the led will show the voltage with the carto/atty attached "underload" Madvapes does sell the completed box for $35 (without installed voltmeter) and $45 with a voltmeter installed. Like I said, I have the box without the voltmeter and purchased the voltmeter seperate. My box does not run hot at all.

If you press the button without a carto/atty, the voltmeter will show the voltage that the device is set.. then take off the carto, screw on the voltmeter, then screw the carto to the voltmeter and vape.. it will show the voltage with the carto. The madvapes vv box drops only tenths of a point.

 

[Jim Bob]

Thank you I thought you meant a regular meter (with leads)

 

[Maximillian]

So my newbie question is, is there any VV kit or mod that would really worth to buy and thats not like a square box thats too big to carry in the pocket ?

Heyas sh_,

There are lots of good vv devices out there. Unfortunately almost all of them are considerably larger than a riva.

I think the smallest vv I've seen is the Little Sister, from kens box mods. It's a bit bigger than a bic lighter. I don't have one, but have heard good things about them.


Down the road, notcigs has a new vv in the development phase called the Envy. Supposed to be comparable in size to an ego. But, who knows when that'll make it to market.

That's all that comes to mind right off.



Maximillian the Moderately Mischievious

 

[sandybeach]

Where do you get a volt meter?

 

[Nomoreash]

Where do you get a volt meter?

You can pick up a multimeter many places, Harbor Freight is a good place on a budget if you have one close. If you want one just to screw on the connector and check voltage which is much less hassle then madavapes as well as a few other places carry them.

Assembled Volt Indicator

 

[5vz]

You'd be better off getting a digital multi-meter. It will last longer, and you can test your attys, cartos, batteries, just about anything really.

This place has them in stock, this one will suit your needs.

Hongda DT-95B multimeter voltage meter

 

[sh_]

I really think that a multimeter will be better and really useful for all other stuff you could "possibly need", and its cheaper

Thanks for the tip 5vz

 

[5vz]

No problem. I try to be "frugal", a.k.a. cheap. Had one of these from another vendor for well over a year, still going strong, and gets used a lot. If it conks out, it will just need a battery. Even more frugal. Haven't checked the hardware store, that may be an even better place.

 

[Retriever]

I agree with the suggestion for getting a digital mutimeter. They are very valuable if you vape.

 

[arkador]

I agree with the suggestion for getting a digital mutimeter. They are very valuable if you vape.

with a VV mod, I have to disagree.

I just turn the thumb wheel on my Buzz Pro till it gives me the hit and taste I am looking for. I don't need to know the voltage or the resistance even.

if it is cool, it is too low. if it tastes burnt, it is too high.

 

[cskent]

When I first got my VV boxmod I'd measure the resistance of the atty, use my multimeter to check the voltage I had set, and use an Ohm's law calculator to get everything set just right.

Now, I put a new atty or carto on, see if it tastes right, and adjust if it needs it.

 

[AttyPops]

How (exactly) do you go about checking for voltage underload?

Thank you I thought you meant a regular meter (with leads)

1) a DMM is handy for all sorts of stuff, just just setting voltage on the e-cig.
2) With leads, there are a # of ways...

Basically, although you can check voltage without a special connector (like at/near the atty connector from the inside guts of the box) I think a connector made for using a DMM is the best way to go. In the nutshell, you have an atty connector male and female on an old metal atomizer. So it goes between the PV and the atomizer/carto with proper connectors on each end. The center posts are not connected inside. Instead, it has two wires protruding through the side. You can clip the meter to theses. The metal shell is the ground, the wires are the positive leads that you hook the meter to. You can measure actual amps this way too. A Picture is woth a 1000 words in this case:



Just make sure the wires don't short to the shell.

 

[Jim Bob]

I really appreciate your taking the time to post that tutorial, very helpful indeed! I did already know how to test battery , battery output, resistance on atty/cartos etc.