VV REOS Part IV

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Gil would be the best 1 to answer this but I believe it a plastic dye injected in them but don't quote me cuz I could wrong

This has probably been answered. It is an acrylic, infused with dye, that is pushed into WOOD pores via pressure. Seems I've read that there is a vacuum process, too. Sometimes two or more colors are used that affect different parts of the WOODs structure. The Acrylic can help to stabilize the wood making burls and figured woods more stable and, also, offer more resistance to moisture. Moisture resistance depends on the WOOD, the type of carrier for the dyes, and the process that is used. In certain cases the WOOD can actually become more brittle but not all cases.

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Thanks for the reply. I'm thinking about one of the stabilized ones. They cost more and I figure everyone is going for natural wood.

I'll wait and see how people like the normal wood ones before I buy my second ;-) or maybe a mini


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Just so you know the stabilized wood does NOT have the feel & warmth of the natural wood. That said it doesn't matter which type you get they perform exactly the same and don't let anyone tell you different....after all they are all REOs made by Rob himself!!!! ;)
 

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Thanks for the reply. I'm thinking about one of the stabilized ones. They cost more and I figure everyone is going for natural wood.

I'll wait and see how people like the normal wood ones before I buy my second ;-) or maybe a mini


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Robert has only recently made the stabilized available. The Woodvil 18490 was the first release of REO's where some were stabilized. They went fast! There were a lot of people that wanted stabilized that did not get one. So this run of VV Woodvils should see a rush for stabilized. There are more of the regular woods available. Of course in that group you can find new woods that have not been available before this run. I say this is a fantastic assortment of wood types. Robert always amazes us with his keen eye for the right woods and right combinations. His REO's are real works of art!
 

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Just so you know the stabilized wood does NOT have the feel & warmth of the natural wood. That said it doesn't matter which type you get they perform exactly the same and don't let anyone tell you different....after all they are all REOs made by Rob himself!!!! ;)

I agree about the "feel". They are different. Not bad, just not the same. I am glad I have one just because it is different. That feel is tough to describe. I guess I would say more of a synthetic feel.
 

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I agree about the "feel". They are different. Not bad, just not the same. I am glad I have one just because it is different. That feel is tough to describe. I guess I would say more of a synthetic feel.

I agree its hard to describe. I know what the feel is to me but others would not agree. Since the 1st stabilized REO ever made and all others that pass thru my hands I still think it feels like smooth cold stone not unlike river stones or those worry stone. Like you said hard to describe. :)
 

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Just going on my 18490 Stabilized..... I would say the "feel" in about half way between a nice comfy stone and oiled wood. I don't have any poly coated WOODs but I would expect the Stabilized to "feel" closer to the poly coated WOOD than the oiled WOOD. Stabilized doesn't "feel" plastic to me or "stone like." It's very subjective!!!!

The Stabilized any version of REO will go extremely fast. There was one 18490 that hung around for a pretty long time, though; maybe hours, or a day. It was one of my favorites but I couldn't buy any more. Again.... subjective.

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Just going on my 18490 Stabilized..... I would say the "feel" in about half way between a nice comfy stone and oiled wood. I don't have any poly coated WOODs but I would expect the Stabilized to "feel" closer to the poly coated WOOD than the oiled WOOD. Stabilized doesn't "feel" plastic to me or "stone like." It's very subjective!!!!

The Stabilized any version of REO will go extremely fast. There was one 18490 that hung around for a pretty long time, though; maybe hours, or a day. It was one of my favorites but I couldn't buy any more. Again.... subjective.

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lol Funny how the exact same thing can be so different to everyone. :) Going back to the one given....there is no difference in performance so whatever you end up with will be great as is all REOs. Btw, having now had all the different finishes (on stabilized REOs) I can say the poly is the most Gil-proof and thats a good thing. :lol: Kudos to Rob! :thumbs:
 
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Is it Saturday yet?!?

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Sorry, can't contain the anticipation :D
 

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We will do whatever it takes for the greater good or to better my goods :sneaky::laugh::sneaky::laugh::sneaky: What do mean most of Az? :blink:You telling me that part of my state participates in DST and the rest of us here don't how dumb is that?:confused:

A part of Indiana didn't use to do DST. I drove up early a.m. one time to a dog show. Got the dogs ready, took a couple in, for early ring time, and hardly anyone there. Spooky!!!! So where I came from not too many miles south, in Ky, the time was an hour later, than non DST slice of Indiana.

When DD was in college, Tuscon, part of the year the time difference between Dallas and Tuscon was one hour and part of the year it was 2 hours. I don't know if those places or others still refuse to do DST like most of the country. I love AZ but the politicians are getting more stupid by the day.

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Sounds like there is yet a chance for me to grab one. I think I'll pick out some less favorite choices too just in case LOL

Plain Walnut doesn't usually fly out fast. But the fancy Walnuts, can't say. To me it is one of the best WOODs for durability and light in weight. I have a Walnut/bloodwood 18490 and a full Walnut Woodvil. I love the simplicity of those two. Those and my "Mike's" Teak Mini are just a favored, if not more so, than my others. One thing for certain, they can take the knocks, drops, bangs, much better than some of the more exotic WOODs.

The Curly Oaks are usually last to go, too. But maybe not this time as those of us who have them have been talking about them a lot lately. The Curly Oak that Robert has used is pretty rare, very beautiful, extremely durable, and he may not ever be able to find it again.

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In all honesty, I've wanted a Reo for some time, but never had the cash when the ones I wanted were available (yeah, I guess I'm picky like that:p). VV is a nice bonus and the final little nudge that is convincing me I need to pull the trigger, 'cos technically I don't need another mod :laugh:

Once you get and use a REO you might find that you really "needed" one before but just didn't know that. Not 100% but for the majority of people who have gotten their first REO they realize what they have been missing.

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I honestly don't see much advantage to individually protected batteries vs. mod level electronics protection, though appreciate that some people want it, nothing wrong with redundancy; it is a marginal plus up if the mod has good electronics. The battery level protection is an external circuit added to the unit, within the wrapper, which does short circuit, over current, etc.

If someone wants more protection, I believe they need to take the hit on available energy and shift to the imr chemistry. The pv electronics will still provide current, temperature, short circuit, and reverse battery protection, while the imr chemistry is just a bit less volatile if a battery has an internal fault.

Imr can still have a bad day, report of an aw imr that had a thermal issue in another forum area; it can happen. On internal battery faults, whether residual internal metal manufacturing defect or through abuse in use (bad charging, physical abuse of the battery), protection circuitry, whether mod or battery level, won't help, a vent event will occur.

Apologies for the diversion, I'll stop yapping now :)

I just don't trust the protected much any more vs the IMR. At some point most battery casings will begin to split in places. I had one Trustfire in storage, after I moved to IMR, (I eventually gave most of them away.) that when the casing split, just picking it up, the PCB fell out. I've accidently tossed several batteries, through the air, with them splatting on hard tile. I know this happens for a lot of people. To me the connection from PCB to cell is the major weak point with protected batteries. I do have a few 18350 protected left so I'm going to do a good wrap, with thin tape around the bottom (and top) to better secure the PCB. I don't know if I'm going to use them though. Got to think on it. I certainly wouldn't, though, stack them without a good controller like the chip in Roberts VV REO.

I decided, a few months ago, that I will no longer stack any battery unless it has a good control chip in mod.

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I hope I am able to get one :facepalm:
It looks like this might be more difficult than I thought it would be.

Best way to succeed is to stay calm and don't hit any keys if you see any spinning. That can "confuse" the process or even take you back to the start of process or, in some case, dump contents from your cart. Slow, calm, and steady.

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