I will let the cat out of the bag . As I have stated I am not a electronics whiz I am good with wood and mechanical things basic electronics no problem . I have been asked by many ecf folk for along time to do a vv reo. Well the time has come I wanted to do this right the first time no game playing So I approached Mike from Notcigs He is a electronics genius. He has agreed to supply me with the vv parts needed for my mods Mike will even pop in the thread to answer any ?s that need to be answered that I may struggle with. I wanted to hug him when he offered thanks Mike .I will start with vv woodvils and move to the vv grands