vv/vw devices that go above 15w?
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Allriiiight! This is real engineering... or science! And with the juice mixing in addition it's no wonder vaping becomes a hobby and more than that for loads of people.
I don't dare going further than mixing juices since I'm so easily obsessed that I would probably never sleep again if I were to build tanks myself
Allriiiight! This is real engineering... or science! And with the juice mixing in addition it's no wonder vaping becomes a hobby and more than that for loads of people.
I don't dare going further than mixing juices since I'm so easily obsessed that I would probably never sleep again if I were to build tanks myself
Never say never......
Never say never......
hehe... No, I'll just say no to myself! Learning about vaping is already stealing way too much time from my other hobbies, so I'll have to set some boundaries
part of the joy of vaping is when you catch the bug and start tinkering, building, mixing... etc.
It can be an expensive hobby (but cheaper than smokin marlboro red all day).
I love the variables in getting just the right vape (flavor and cloud)
It can be an expensive hobby (but cheaper than smokin marlboro red all day).
I love the variables in getting just the right vape (flavor and cloud)
no, no, noooooo! I need time to hike in the forest, play my hand drums, write songs and lyrics, record music, build stuff around the house, do ordinary house chores, sew... things, draw and paint pictures, edit photos and videos etc., and I hardly do any of those things already because I've become so obsessed by vaping related stuff, so don't tempt me
no, no, noooooo! I need time to hike in the forest, play my hand drums, write songs and lyrics, record music, build stuff around the house, do ordinary house chores, sew... things, draw and paint pictures, edit photos and videos etc., and I hardly do any of those things already because I've become so obsessed by vaping related stuff, so don't tempt me
OOOPS!!! Looks like someone's been bitten by the Vapor bug!
Yes, I'm sitting here now trying to just play my drum and be happy with that, but I can't stop myself from checking the forum every 5-10 minutes, so I'm just half concentated. But then again, being not concentrated can sometimes actually be a good thing, cause then I forget to think "This is so difficult" and then I play those things better, haha
Ooops, I've hijacked this thread with completely off topic stuff, I seem to do that everywhere i post! Sorry OP
I'm enjoying this thread too - impossible to stay away!
"Artist of the Vape" There was a guy in another thread who said he considered mixing flavours to be an art form like painting pictures, writing books and composing music, so maybe I'll be tricked to turn in on that road now
"Artist of the Vape"
There was a guy in another thread who said he considered mixing flavours to be an art form like painting pictures, writing books and composing music, so maybe I'll be tricked to turn in on that road nowNow this makes me feel a LOT better about using one while plugged in
As for the appropriate wattage I asked a buddy about it last night, and he gave mostly the same answer as some people have answered on here. There are lots of variables which pretty much have to do with what you put on your mod. Some toppers just aren't built for higher wattage, like tanks which can take a while to juice up the wick and are prone to drying out too quickly if used at high power. If we're talking about a dripper, the chamber size and airflow have a lot to do with it. But either way your build has to be juuust so. If you don't wick the coil right, you may get hotspots where the cotton (if that's what you're using) dries out too quickly and burns.
With mechanical mods, the circuit is hooked directly to the battery so you're dealing with unregulated current; if you're subohming that means you can easily pass 150watts or more. As far as I know, only rdas with work with such high power, and again, your build has to be just right to get a nice even vape.
I've been borrowing a friend's dna30 clone and using a magma rda with a dual coil build. Since it's a regulated mod, the ohmage doesn't matter when calculating wattage as they do on mech mods, so long as the build is within operating parameters (something like 0.4-3.0 ohms if i'm not mistaken). That isn't to say though that the build doesn't affect the flavor, it definitely does. With the dual coil build i've got on it now, I find the flavor of the juices i'm using really starts to come nicely between 16-20watts. But when I rebuild the coil, that may change; so it really has a lot to do with personal preference and tweaking everything around until you find the way that you like it.
As for devices that are both vv and vw, they all seem to be either too expensive, or have too low a range for the rdas that i plan on using. So I'm probably going to go with one of the vw devices I already mentioned. That way I can put on a tank and bring the wattage down, but still have the option to do some higher wattage dripping
With mechanical mods, the circuit is hooked directly to the battery so you're dealing with unregulated current; if you're subohming that means you can easily pass 150watts or more. As far as I know, only rdas with work with such high power, and again, your build has to be just right to get a nice even vape.
I've been borrowing a friend's dna30 clone and using a magma rda with a dual coil build. Since it's a regulated mod, the ohmage doesn't matter when calculating wattage as they do on mech mods, so long as the build is within operating parameters (something like 0.4-3.0 ohms if i'm not mistaken). That isn't to say though that the build doesn't affect the flavor, it definitely does. With the dual coil build i've got on it now, I find the flavor of the juices i'm using really starts to come nicely between 16-20watts. But when I rebuild the coil, that may change; so it really has a lot to do with personal preference and tweaking everything around until you find the way that you like it.
As for devices that are both vv and vw, they all seem to be either too expensive, or have too low a range for the rdas that i plan on using. So I'm probably going to go with one of the vw devices I already mentioned. That way I can put on a tank and bring the wattage down, but still have the option to do some higher wattage dripping
Allriiiight! This is real engineering... or science! And with the juice mixing in addition it's no wonder vaping becomes a hobby and more than that for loads of people.
I don't dare going further than mixing juices since I'm so easily obsessed that I would probably never sleep again if I were to build tanks myself
There is definitely science at work.
There are two basic ways to produce more vapor from any given setup. Either increase the amount of heat and thus the amount of liquid that can be converted to vapor, or increase the surface area of the coil which again allows more liquid to be converted to vapor.
The first method is where low resistance coils and subohming comes in. You build really low resistance coils and push a ton of wattage through them to make them really hot and boil a lot of liquid to vapor really fast.
I tend to prefer the second method and build higher ohm coils in the 1.4-1.8ohm range with a lot of extra surface area and a lot of metal to be heated. To get coils like this to work properly you have to apply a lot more wattage to the coil. It works like the heating element of an electric stove, the thicker the element the more power it takes to heat it.
This is an example of a 1.4 ohm coil built for high wattage vaping...
That is two strands of 30 gauge Kanthal that's been twisted together and then built in what is called a chimney coil build. Instead of running wick through the middle you wrap the outside of the coil in wick and draw your air through the center. Since the wire is twisted and the coil is so tall there is a lot of extra surface area to boil juice with.
When I built this coil and tested it I found that it works best at 19.5 watts. At that setting it heats up really fast and produces a HUGE amount of vapor. I generally only fire the mod for 2 seconds and then continue to draw for another second or two after firing because the coil is still hot enough to produce vapor. It's a beast though. 3-4 second draw doing mouth to lung hits and most people think I'm doing straight lung hits with it because there is such a big cloud.
Twisting wire is fairly simply actually.
Get one longer length of kanthal wire. Twist the two ends together and hold them tight with pliers and wrap the other end (loop end) around a hook or IN a paperclip... attach that loop end to a power drill and slowly twist until it looks like a tight rope. Snip the ends. Fire it. Let it cool. Wrap it to desired coil size, install and WHAMMO.
Be aware that the ohms will be slightly higher with a twisted wire than single.
I use coil toy "app" online as a guide. This is a SUPER HELPFUL resource. Here: Coil Toy - Online calculator for e-cigarette resistance coil building
RipTrippers Youtube video is excellant tutorial. (He is probably high but he knows what he is doing.)
Get one longer length of kanthal wire. Twist the two ends together and hold them tight with pliers and wrap the other end (loop end) around a hook or IN a paperclip... attach that loop end to a power drill and slowly twist until it looks like a tight rope. Snip the ends. Fire it. Let it cool. Wrap it to desired coil size, install and WHAMMO.
Be aware that the ohms will be slightly higher with a twisted wire than single.
I use coil toy "app" online as a guide. This is a SUPER HELPFUL resource. Here: Coil Toy - Online calculator for e-cigarette resistance coil building
RipTrippers Youtube video is excellant tutorial. (He is probably high but he knows what he is doing.)
Bookmarking that calculator for later use ^_^
As for the drill method, I saw him do it with a guitar string in the center and then run kanthal through it. Looks a little trickier than the method you described. Only problem is access to a drill. I'll have to ask a buddy
As for the drill method, I saw him do it with a guitar string in the center and then run kanthal through it. Looks a little trickier than the method you described. Only problem is access to a drill. I'll have to ask a buddy
A lower ohm coil needs more wattage/power. I have a 1.0 ohm coil in my kayfun and using it @19.1 watts, which is about 4.3 volts. Hence people using higher powered devices. The coil heats up a bit faster but batteries die more quickly. If the coil was lower I would need more wattage to get to the 4.3 volts. I didn't understand this either in the beginning. My cana dna30 does the math for me, thankfully lol.
I did Rips triple twisted method on my kayfun. the coil is 1.0 ohm but I forget if I used 30 or 32 g kanthal A1 wire, I think it was 32g.
Works very well and is quite easy to do.
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