Hello all I am new to vaping. Right now I am using a ego-c right now with a T3 on it. Its not bad but I know it by far not the best vape I can get out there. I like all the vv/vw but they are to flashy for me so I was look at a mechanical mods with a kick. I know it is a vv at that time (from what I read and see on you tube) I am also looking at making my own coils at sometime not to sure about sub but would like to try to build my own. back to my question would any of you know if it better to go with a mechanical over the vv/vw ? I am more worried that I will break it then anything was looking at the Silver Bullet,GG Telescopic Storm ,KTS. Ok I think I am done sorry for throwing this all at you like I did.
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Don't be sorry for asking questions. That is one of the biggest uses of a forum, and anyone who responds has chosen to do so because they want to help. /rant
If you have a regular ego-c, the next logical step is an ego twist, vision spinner, or something like that. Basically a vv ego. They work just fine. If you want to move to a big battery mod, the Vamo is good choice for a beginner because you can find them cheap and they have vw, which really is just a "set it and forget it" feature. I wouldn't go with a mech unless you know you want to use super low resistance rebuildable atomizers (sub ohm). If you think durability is an issue and don't mind spending $80+ on something, I'm sure someone will come in with a recommendation. I am all about doing things as cheap as possible, so I'm not much help there.
Good luck!
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If you have a regular ego-c, the next logical step is an ego twist, vision spinner, or something like that. Basically a vv ego. They work just fine. If you want to move to a big battery mod, the Vamo is good choice for a beginner because you can find them cheap and they have vw, which really is just a "set it and forget it" feature. I wouldn't go with a mech unless you know you want to use super low resistance rebuildable atomizers (sub ohm). If you think durability is an issue and don't mind spending $80+ on something, I'm sure someone will come in with a recommendation. I am all about doing things as cheap as possible, so I'm not much help there.
Good luck!
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How much are you looking to spend? If you get a DNA20 mod, like the Hana Mod, you get vw and can still run sub ohm coils if you want.
Thank you for the advice. I look at the Evic , Vamo , Provariand and the Sigelei zmax. They all look great but again I am little worried I would destroy them at work more then any where else. I killed a lot of phone at work, that is why I was looking at mechanical mods with a kick they look to be build better for what I need. I get it wet or it falls the most I will have to do is replace the battery and the kick. I look around town here they have the k100 at one of them looks to be a nice mod they also have the KTS there.
Have yet to look at box mods but might just have too are they build well I mean if it gets wet or falls 5/10ft will it take it. The ones I have seen don't look to be made out of thick metal.
Im sure many people will step up to tell me how wrong i am but, I like the look of so many mec mods i have seen. I got a cheap one and to tell you the truth i really do not like it all that much. The small size is really cool, but it is kind of a pain to taylor your coil to get your perfect vape. I perfer the VV/VW of my vamo and my twists. Diffrent juices need diffrent settings and it is nice to be able to adjust on the fly. 
As pointed out above mechs are really best suited for those of us that use rebuildable devices that can be tailored for 3.7 volts. Unless you add a Kick.
For people still finding their comfort level a Vamo or other VV/VW device would give more adaptability as it is easier to change voltage or wattage on a PV to suite your taste than rebuild an atomizer.
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For people still finding their comfort level a Vamo or other VV/VW device would give more adaptability as it is easier to change voltage or wattage on a PV to suite your taste than rebuild an atomizer.
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If I wanted the most durable PV possible and didn't want to shell out for a provari or reo, I would get a mech and a protected battery or imr with fuse. A kick might be useful, but I am fine with standard voltage and LR coils.
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If you want to try both, wait for the Cyborg by fluidvaper.com. It has a DNA20 module and can be turned into a mechanical.
If your main concern is doing in a device at work I'd have to second the twist/spinner suggestion.
Logic being it's smaller than most vv/vw devices, can be purchased for 20-30 dollars
and will give you a good idea of the flexibility you get with being able to adjust your power.
It will also serve as a good back-up if/when you decide to rebuild coils and get a mod.
Only downside I see is that if you don't get the vv/vw device (APV/MOD) and decide to do your
own coils you won't be able to check resistance levels without an ohmmeter.
But the mechanical with kick won't do it for you either.
Logic being it's smaller than most vv/vw devices, can be purchased for 20-30 dollars
and will give you a good idea of the flexibility you get with being able to adjust your power.
It will also serve as a good back-up if/when you decide to rebuild coils and get a mod.
Only downside I see is that if you don't get the vv/vw device (APV/MOD) and decide to do your
own coils you won't be able to check resistance levels without an ohmmeter.
But the mechanical with kick won't do it for you either.
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I would second the above advice of getting a vv ego for use at work. You may want to check out those lanyard things, so you can wear it around your neck. Then, you won't have so much trouble keeping it out of gunk.
Im using eVic and more than happy with device. You can adjust everything you need. You can even connect it to your laptop!
I have a kicked bolt and it's pretty cool.
Like you, I had a feeling I might like mechs better, but I wasn't totally sure. And I wasn't sure if I was more into electronically regulating the vape with a vv/vw device, or if I wanted to focus more on collecting or building atomizers. For a very modest investment I got a platform that lends itself well to experimentation.
Bolts are cheap. If you decide you don't like mechs, you haven't lost much. I'm not quite sure how you would go about breaking this thing, which I guess is the point of mechs. But if you did, it's easy to take apart and fix. To be clear, they are built cheaply to begin with, and at some point you might want to take it apart and re-wire it. If that thought gives you ........, you may not be a mech sorta guy.
All in all I would think the electronics in a vv/vw would be at most risk in a work or outdoor environment. Which is what's so durn cool about the Kick concept. If it breaks, take it out, swap batteries and keep on vapin. Or likewise if you know you're gonna be in a tough environment, screw on a tank, put in a big protected battery, and you're good to go. I would never take electronics into a high moisture or high dust environment. The Bolt? No problem.
Point being, with a kicked Bolt or similar, you have options, and you can figure out what you like before you start dropping serious money
Like you, I had a feeling I might like mechs better, but I wasn't totally sure. And I wasn't sure if I was more into electronically regulating the vape with a vv/vw device, or if I wanted to focus more on collecting or building atomizers. For a very modest investment I got a platform that lends itself well to experimentation.
Bolts are cheap. If you decide you don't like mechs, you haven't lost much. I'm not quite sure how you would go about breaking this thing, which I guess is the point of mechs. But if you did, it's easy to take apart and fix. To be clear, they are built cheaply to begin with, and at some point you might want to take it apart and re-wire it. If that thought gives you ........, you may not be a mech sorta guy.
All in all I would think the electronics in a vv/vw would be at most risk in a work or outdoor environment. Which is what's so durn cool about the Kick concept. If it breaks, take it out, swap batteries and keep on vapin. Or likewise if you know you're gonna be in a tough environment, screw on a tank, put in a big protected battery, and you're good to go. I would never take electronics into a high moisture or high dust environment. The Bolt? No problem.
Point being, with a kicked Bolt or similar, you have options, and you can figure out what you like before you start dropping serious money
^^^ the Bolt is not truly "mechanical" because it has wires and solder. Cheap Chinese mechs are available for the same price or less. Nothing wrong with the Bolt, I have one and it works just fine.
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There are always the questions, "how wet?" and "what surface did it fall onto?", but electronics in general aren't known for their ability to survive either of these cases. APVs that contain electronics are exactly the same - wires get knocked loose, screens crack, etc.
Whether you go with a box mod or a tube mod, you might want to consider how likely this kind of (ab)use is in your lifestyle. If you think it will be a regular occurrence, either buy cheap VV/VW that you won't hate yourself for breaking or look deeper into if you think you might get along with a mechanical mod.
My question to you would be what 'better' are you looking for in a vape. I know that with vv and vw many people lean heavily on them for improvement in their vape but my own experience has taught me that there maybe other places to look before investing in a vv/vw and I wish I had spent time investigating the vape I got from dual coils vs single and bottom vs top then just deciding between and the differences they could could makes, as well as juice mixtures and such and then investigating the addition of being able to vary voltage and wattage. Might have saved some money. I have a vv and a vv/vw and rarely use the variability to make them any different than the base setting that is essentially the same as my mechs. I went that way first, as many do, and then discovered that there are many other things that don't need more than a basic ego to function and can make a huge difference.
Often hard to tell from this forum sometimes but there are people who are just find with the 3.7 ohm mech and LR coils while others are chasing something from the start cause its just not quite right. I just usually suggest that you analyze what you think you might be missing in light of your personal vape as opposed to others hardware lists and research the things that can make a difference. For example, if you are not getting as much vapor as you would like, there are other things then varying the voltage to obtain that and they could work better for you and be less of an investment. Then, again, if you know that you have to have 2.8 ohm coils - well that pretty much makes that vv a sound choice.
Getting a good idea of what you imagine your best vape ever would be might help people give you ideas about things that will get you there.
As for you use at work, I would be leery of any device with too many easily knocked out of line electronics and so if you had to have a vv at work suggest the twist/spinner (although if it falls just right a twist can die hitting a cushioned floor - been there and done that so no guarantees). I know of very few that 'break' easily with normal care and caution and treatment but few that can be run over with a car and come back to life - but there are reports. I never take my expensive vv/vw with all the bells and whistles out to run around in my back pocket on a bike or when out in sub zero weather cross country, just might as well throw them out before I start - but I have with some ego mechs and never had an issue. I would not take a vv to the beach, either, sand/salt seems to play havoc with them. In other words, like many, you may find you need a couple of different devices for different aspects of your life. Some find they can find the one device and type of tank that works for them day in and out, no matter what they are ding, while others have to have a couple of different techs for the different parts of their lives... and then there are looks too - the days you need to have that really girly looking one, or the chrome isn't making a statement and you need the gold and so on.
None of this is to say that once vv/vw with all it can be for use at the right time and places AND especially if you are building coils is a bad thing. Actually if you want to get into that side of things you would want that investment I would think - since you can't vape an ohmmeter, so save money and buy something you can at least double task.
Know what you want as the result and find the things that work to get that for you.
Often hard to tell from this forum sometimes but there are people who are just find with the 3.7 ohm mech and LR coils while others are chasing something from the start cause its just not quite right. I just usually suggest that you analyze what you think you might be missing in light of your personal vape as opposed to others hardware lists and research the things that can make a difference. For example, if you are not getting as much vapor as you would like, there are other things then varying the voltage to obtain that and they could work better for you and be less of an investment. Then, again, if you know that you have to have 2.8 ohm coils - well that pretty much makes that vv a sound choice.
Getting a good idea of what you imagine your best vape ever would be might help people give you ideas about things that will get you there.
As for you use at work, I would be leery of any device with too many easily knocked out of line electronics and so if you had to have a vv at work suggest the twist/spinner (although if it falls just right a twist can die hitting a cushioned floor - been there and done that so no guarantees). I know of very few that 'break' easily with normal care and caution and treatment but few that can be run over with a car and come back to life - but there are reports. I never take my expensive vv/vw with all the bells and whistles out to run around in my back pocket on a bike or when out in sub zero weather cross country, just might as well throw them out before I start - but I have with some ego mechs and never had an issue. I would not take a vv to the beach, either, sand/salt seems to play havoc with them. In other words, like many, you may find you need a couple of different devices for different aspects of your life. Some find they can find the one device and type of tank that works for them day in and out, no matter what they are ding, while others have to have a couple of different techs for the different parts of their lives... and then there are looks too - the days you need to have that really girly looking one, or the chrome isn't making a statement and you need the gold and so on.
None of this is to say that once vv/vw with all it can be for use at the right time and places AND especially if you are building coils is a bad thing. Actually if you want to get into that side of things you would want that investment I would think - since you can't vape an ohmmeter, so save money and buy something you can at least double task.
Know what you want as the result and find the things that work to get that for you.
Hi James. If you just wanted to see about mech mods you could do worse than try a UDT-L with an AGA-T2+. The combo is pretty cheap and if you did like it, then look for higher end stuff. Even mesh and wire are cheap. (Technically, the UDT-L is not mechanical coz it has two bits of wire at the button, but def good, and close enough for the experience.) Cheap 'training wheels' too; they're pretty rugged and as such, a few knocks and scuffs are part of the journey.
As CloudZ says, the Vamo is a good VV/VW device. You can test resistance and pulse the coil of newly wrapped heads on it. Not to mention checking the battery level if you did get a mech of some sort and wanted to keep an eye on voltage.
The genesis business isn't really that difficult, just finicky initially 'till you get a feel for it.
Both mechs & vv/vw are good and work well; they both have their merits.
Oh, and the aforementioned, while suffering more from mongrelitis than shinyitis, will give a high end a run for its money.
As CloudZ says, the Vamo is a good VV/VW device. You can test resistance and pulse the coil of newly wrapped heads on it. Not to mention checking the battery level if you did get a mech of some sort and wanted to keep an eye on voltage.
The genesis business isn't really that difficult, just finicky initially 'till you get a feel for it.
Both mechs & vv/vw are good and work well; they both have their merits.
Oh, and the aforementioned, while suffering more from mongrelitis than shinyitis, will give a high end a run for its money.
Thank you all for the advice, I will let you all know what I go with. Right now I know I like a warmer vape and I like the idea of building my own coils (looking at doing ss mesh/ cotton with ss cable wick and flat wire coil) I own a multimeter so ohms, watts, and volts being check is not a big deal. I am one of those people that has to research everything before I do anything.( if that tells any of you anything about me) Building coils is the part that looks easy to me. (not that I have done it but not much different from a coil on toaster.) I am leaning towards a mechanical, it is a simple devices ie I can't fry much more then a battery.
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