Wait... de-bridging is supposed to be good?

[BlackMetalBuick]

Lol, I've attempted this on a 510 magma atty an now a cisco 306. In both cases flavor is severely blunted and vapor production is quite literally reduced 50%. I'm aware of the potential for damaging the coil by accident, but the 510 can still be made to glow red hot, and the 306 seems fine as well. Besides, it seems like the long legs of the bridge go down past the outside of the little reservior, so I don't see why pulling it out would ever really have the ability of damaging the coil.

I tried it on a second atty assuming something just went wrong the first time, but nope, same results. I remove the bridge carefully, its just a matter of pinching it a bit so the shoulders on the bridge will pop out from under the top retaining ring.

But I'm still quite new to this so I don't want to say my two attempts must disprove everyone who says its a great modification. Where could I be going wrong? Why the poor results? Ruining the 510 gave me an excuse to try the cisco, but now a ten dollar cisco gone to waste is a bit of a bummer. If I buy replacements I will probably just leave them be. But the curiosity will continue to dig at me about why this doesn't work for me. What's the deal,

 

[Sandybeach40]

It should be avoided at all cost. If you have a old atty that taste like crap try cleaning it before you destroy a critical component to the ecig. Throw out old attys and buy new. Don't starve your buds for the price of a number 4 value meal at McDonald's.

 

[enree]

Some remove the bridge because it seemed that dripping e-liquid directly on the heating element gives better taste. But once removed, cartridges should not be used again. The bridge is there for a purpose. It is there to prevent poly-filler to be in direct contact with the coil. Even if you drip over the bridge, it would still taste the same. What is necessary is to experiment with the e-juice and not the bridge. Do not follow what others do, especially with atty. They are just enthusiastic and though it works on them, it may not work on you. For example, how do you drip often while driving?

 

[Automaton]

My first thought is that it's possible you may be flooding it. A de-bridged atty doesn't need quite as much juice, since the bridge isn't hold on to extra liquid. Try just one drop at a time, right on the coil. Then try 2. An LR *might* take 3, but not always.

My experience with de-bridged atties, from a taste and vapor perspective, has been great. Even with brand-new or good-performing atties. They are slightly more finicky about how much juice once debridged, but I find the burning taste completely goes away (they just stop tasting like anything when dry), and the hit is harder. I think it's worth it. I don't drip any more often anyway, since I'm always over-dripping on bridged atties trying to avoid the burning taste.

But, like everything in vaping... your mileage may vary. There doesn't seem to be a single thing in vaping everyone agrees on. I swear by the isopropyl alcohol cleaning method, and so do a lot of other people. Other people swear it kills every atty they try it on.

Why? No idea. Vaping is still more of an art than a science.

Fiddle with your method a bit. You may get de-bridging to work great. Or, it may never work right for you. But I think there's a good chance you will get better results by augmenting your vaping style.

 

[kilascay]

Yeah I debridged a atty and got about two puffs before it started tasting burned never gonna drip or do that again

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[clyde2801]

Unless you're a die hard, born-again dripper, debridging an atty is an emergency or austerity measure. A measure of last resort after cleaning. (Okay, other than drilling out the inlet holes on a 510 if the draw is still too tight after cleaning.)

It's kind of like refilling a carto a few times....you can get some more life out of it, but the experience is still not the same as a brand new one.

 

[BlackMetalBuick]

Yeah I've been dripping-only, I definitely wasn't attempting to use a cartridge or anything like that once the bridge was out.

The main reason I did it actually, was that juice kept pooling on top of the bridge and sitting in the drip tip. I know what you're thinking, I'm majorly flooding it if the juice level is that high. But actually, no. If I hold down the button long enough, the vapor will eventually make it's way up through the juice and bubble out, and when I took a hit like that, it actually tasted like a very dry-coil hit. So it truly was a situation where the atty needed more juice, but when I dripped it in, it was backing up on the bridge.. So I figured what the heck, I drip anyway, why not get the bridge out of the way so it'll stop backing up into the drip tip. But it's been downhill since then, I would rather be back to having to clear out my drip tip every few minutes.

Yeah I do notice that it takes fewer drips without the bridge, so if I do end up dripping 3 drops or so, I notice the vapor production does pick up once the juice level gets a little bit lower. But still the flavor never returns, I'm using a great "Top Banana" flavor from MadVapes, but without the bridge, I just get a subtle hint of what it used to taste like.

I suppose I'll place an order with CherryVape, two more cisco attys and one of their cannon drip tips for $25. I think the larger cannon drip tip might help with what I was experiencing with juice not getting past the bridge. Only downside is that I destroyed an atty days before Xmas when vendors will be closed and mail delivery will be delayed. Hopefully I don't end up buying some analogs.

"Fool me once...", lesson learned. I've seen YouTube videos of people ripping out a bridge (much more aggressively than I do) and then proceeding to get huge clouds of vapor out of their atty. Not sure why my results are different. But I will leave well enough alone from now on, the 306 was doing great with everything still attached.

Thanks for the replies.

 

[sahara4evr]

Hey BlackMetal...don't give up on your bridgeless attys. I took the bridge out of an old atty a couple of months ago. It worked great but then I retired it when I bought some new 510 attys (I didn't take the bridge out of the new ones.) Seeing this post got me wondering about my old bridgeless atty and so I dug it out and tried it. It was horrible. Terrible burnt taste, but... I kept messing with it and as it got going it got MUCH better. I'm using it right now and I think it provides a better flavor than my other attys. Maybe if you keep fooling around with yours, they will get better. Good luck!

 

[guitardedmark]

My first thought is that it's possible you may be flooding it. A de-bridged atty doesn't need quite as much juice, since the bridge isn't hold on to extra liquid. Try just one drop at a time, right on the coil. Then try 2. An LR *might* take 3, but not always.

My experience with de-bridged atties, from a taste and vapor perspective, has been great. Even with brand-new or good-performing atties. They are slightly more finicky about how much juice once debridged, but I find the burning taste completely goes away (they just stop tasting like anything when dry), and the hit is harder. I think it's worth it. I don't drip any more often anyway, since I'm always over-dripping on bridged atties trying to avoid the burning taste.

But, like everything in vaping... your mileage may vary. There doesn't seem to be a single thing in vaping everyone agrees on. I swear by the isopropyl alcohol cleaning method, and so do a lot of other people. Other people swear it kills every atty they try it on.

Why? No idea. Vaping is still more of an art than a science.

Fiddle with your method a bit. You may get de-bridging to work great. Or, it may never work right for you. But I think there's a good chance you will get better results by augmenting your vaping style.

I agree. It sounds to me like your either flooding it or its too dry. Since de-wicked and de-bridged attys burn hotter, it is possible the juice is just getting to hot and its ruining the flavor. Maybe try a different juice.

 

[guitardedmark]

Yeah I've been dripping-only, I definitely wasn't attempting to use a cartridge or anything like that once the bridge was out.

The main reason I did it actually, was that juice kept pooling on top of the bridge and sitting in the drip tip. I know what you're thinking, I'm majorly flooding it if the juice level is that high. But actually, no. If I hold down the button long enough, the vapor will eventually make it's way up through the juice and bubble out, and when I took a hit like that, it actually tasted like a very dry-coil hit. So it truly was a situation where the atty needed more juice, but when I dripped it in, it was backing up on the bridge.. So I figured what the heck, I drip anyway, why not get the bridge out of the way so it'll stop backing up into the drip tip. But it's been downhill since then, I would rather be back to having to clear out my drip tip every few minutes.

Yeah I do notice that it takes fewer drips without the bridge, so if I do end up dripping 3 drops or so, I notice the vapor production does pick up once the juice level gets a little bit lower. But still the flavor never returns, I'm using a great "Top Banana" flavor from MadVapes, but without the bridge, I just get a subtle hint of what it used to taste like.

I suppose I'll place an order with CherryVape, two more cisco attys and one of their cannon drip tips for $25. I think the larger cannon drip tip might help with what I was experiencing with juice not getting past the bridge. Only downside is that I destroyed an atty days before Xmas when vendors will be closed and mail delivery will be delayed. Hopefully I don't end up buying some analogs.

"Fool me once...", lesson learned. I've seen YouTube videos of people ripping out a bridge (much more aggressively than I do) and then proceeding to get huge clouds of vapor out of their atty. Not sure why my results are different. But I will leave well enough alone from now on, the 306 was doing great with everything still attached.

Thanks for the replies.

I dont know how else to say but I've replied 3 times now (in a different thread) with a solution for you "pooling" liquid. Just do a quick blow on the drip tip...

 

[legbuh]

I quit using my drip tip because the juice simply wouldn't get down to the bridge/atty and I'd suck some in even if I blew in it. But, the drip tip is nice because you can pop it off, drip, and pop it back on fairly easy, and they look nicer than a normal empty cart tip.

I'm having such good results with dripping with my eVo I'm not even worried about any other mods. The only two I've done are the carburetor over the holes for more draw, and adding a few drops of VG for extra vapor, but not enough to kill the TH... lovin it.

 

[silkakc]

I quit using my drip tip because the juice simply wouldn't get down to the bridge/atty and I'd suck some in even if I blew in it. But, the drip tip is nice because you can pop it off, drip, and pop it back on fairly easy, and they look nicer than a normal empty cart tip.

I'm having such good results with dripping with my eVo I'm not even worried about any other mods. The only two I've done are the carburetor over the holes for more draw, and adding a few drops of VG for extra vapor, but not enough to kill the TH... lovin it.

Same here I use the drip tip just for looks and for a mouth piece and take it off to drip on the atty.


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