Want to try WTA - Eliquid

[alegria]

I really want to try some Whole tobacco Alkaloid (WTA) next.

I would like to know - from people who tried more than one - what supplier and flavours they reccomend.

Thanks Heaps In Advance!

 

[john333]

my WTA experience was with Want2Vape. the only time i truly felt like i was smoking was with their product. they have several to choose from along with Vapenstien products. best thing to do is just start reading their descriptions and get some samples. good luck

 

[alegria]

my WTA experience was with Want2Vape. the only time i truly felt like i was smoking was with their product. they have several to choose from along with Vapenstien products. best thing to do is just start reading their descriptions and get some samples. good luck

None of their products claim to have WTA or am I missing something here?

 

[snork]

At this time there are only two places to get eliquid with WTA, aromaejuice.com and vapelicious.com. I have only bought from Aroma, it's a great product. I have heard vapelicious is also good.

 

[alegria]

At this time there are only two places to get eliquid with WTA, aromaejuice.com and vapelicious.com. I have only bought from Aroma, it's a great product. I have heard vapelicious is also good.

Thanks - might have to order a couple of bottles from them both. Any flavour reccomendations for aromaejuice.com??

 

[snork]

I like almost all of them. My favorite all-day is G.I. Joe. I'd say go for the type of eliquid you usually like and you'll probably like whatever you get.

 

[Charlie C]

As snork said there are only two vendors that sell WTA.
I have not tried WTA from Vapelicious; primarily because their website seems to be down frequently.

Aromaejuice have a number of great flavors infused with WTA so it really comes down to your particular tastes.
There is also an unflavored (Pure, Raw) variety that is used to add to your favorite e liquid.
This has a mild tobacco flavor to it yet it's not overpowering and will blend well with any given flavor.

Have a look at the WTA flavors here
Whole Tobacco Alkaloid WTA Eliquid Ejuice

The Dark Honey Tobacco is excellent. Also the Vanilla Splash is a fav of mine.

 

[Kopfstimmen]

Thumbs up on Aroma. Great juice, and Jerry is a great guy. I've tried multiple ones, and there was only one I didn't like (Clove). The rest were great. Snickerdoodle is good if you like bakery stuff. Dark Honey Tobacco is awesome. Camel is the one that I thought tasted most like a cigarette. Last but not least, P-38 is the BOMB, if you like Menthol. Cherry Coke (oddly enough) was my "go to" 24mg juice for first thing in the morning.

 

[snork]

Oh, how could I forget P-38! Menthol heaven.

 

[alegria]

Just found that comment on a Vaping Review site:

"Dr. VapensteinOctober 5, 2011 4:11 AM
WTA is the latest marketing-speak in vaping. Any natural tobacco extract worth a damn **should be** chock full of WTA. The only way to get the truth is to send some of theirs and some of ours to a lab for analysis, and I don't think the expenditure on something that does nothing to improve our juice is worth it.

Don't fall for marketing speak, and consider very carefully who is making some of these claims"

(E Cig Juice Review: Turkish Apricot with Extra High WTA from Vapelicious)

Might give WTA a miss after all...

Thanks Guys

 

[tnt56]

I haven't' gotten my shipment from Aroma yet but I will agree that Jerry is a fantastic person to do business with.

 

[snork]

Just found that comment on a Vaping Review site:

"Dr. VapensteinOctober 5, 2011 4:11 AM
WTA is the latest marketing-speak in vaping. Any natural tobacco extract worth a damn **should be** chock full of WTA. The only way to get the truth is to send some of theirs and some of ours to a lab for analysis, and I don't think the expenditure on something that does nothing to improve our juice is worth it.

Don't fall for marketing speak, and consider very carefully who is making some of these claims"

(E Cig Juice Review: Turkish Apricot with Extra High WTA from Vapelicious)

Might give WTA a miss after all...

Thanks Guys

Ha!
Seriously if you're interested, do some in-depth research. There was a time when WTA was a hot-button issue and people pulled stuff right out of their butts and posted it as fact.

 

[alegria]

I was VERY interrested - will do some research tomorrow - 2am here - don't want to sleep away my Saturday - off to bed.

Posted a thread asking the question, will be interresting to see what the community had to see tomorrow morning while enjoying my morning vape and coffee...

Thanks for all the help guys!

Genuinly appreciated!

 

[bmarley5780]

....just try it, and figure it out for yourself....

 

[snork]

"Dr. VapensteinOctober 5, 2011 4:11 AM
WTA is the latest marketing-speak in vaping. Any natural tobacco extract worth a damn **should be** chock full of WTA. The only way to get the truth is to send some of theirs and some of ours to a lab for analysis, and I don't think the expenditure on something that does nothing to improve our juice is worth it.

I was thinking about this quote.
If what he says is true, then any "natural tobacco extract" **should be** equally chock full of nicotine, too.
We know they're not, nicotine is added - after the fact - to give us the levels we need. Why would this Vapenstein cat think that the proportionally small amounts of the WTAs would transfer over in *any* meaningful amount?

 

[alegria]

I was thinking about this quote.
If what he says is true, then any "natural tobacco extract" **should be** equally chock full of nicotine, too.
We know they're not, nicotine is added - after the fact - to give us the levels we need. Why would this Vapenstein cat think that the proportionally small amounts of the WTAs would transfer over in *any* meaningful amount?

Makes sense! Will order a bottle from both and see what I think! Only way to be sure!

 

[Drael]

No, a natural tobacco extract on its own will have very low, probably meaningless levels of nicotine and other WTA, so they are not the same.

Nicotine and related compounds do have some solubility in ethanol, and some in water, but its not an efficient way to get at the stuff. There will be some in a tobacco extraction, but again, a probably meaningless level. This is because unlike alot of other alkaloids, nicotine and its related compounds has a relatively low solubility in most things.

WTA e-liquid is, i beleive, an acid-base extraction, not a standard solvent extraction.

 

[snork]

No, a natural tobacco extract on its own will have very low, probably meaningless levels of nicotine and other WTA, so they are not the same.

Nicotine and related compounds do have some solubility in ethanol, and some in water, but its not an efficient way to get at the stuff. There will be some in a tobacco extraction, but again, a probably meaningless level.

WTA e-liquid is, i beleive, an acid-base extraction, not a standard solvent extraction.

Right.
So why do you suppose a Vapenstein would post such crap, especially since evidently he claims some expertise?
This is the stuff that drives me nuts when it comes to vaping.

 

[Drael]

Right.
So why do you suppose a Vapenstein would post such crap, especially since evidently he claims some expertise?
This is the stuff that drives me nuts when it comes to vaping.

I can only assume because its a competitive product. Technically one really needs a background in organic chemistry to have "authority" on such issues. Ive done lots of net research on this and related topics, and ive a science background, but I dont fall into that catergory either. I am no chemistry whizz.

All I know for sure:

WTA works - it produces relaxation effects nicotine alone doesnt.

And if getting WTA was as simple as this man claimed, dvap and all the others would not have done acid-base extractions (theyd have just used ethanol), and extracting nicotine would also be a peice of cake.

As it stands both of these things are extracted using more expensive and complicated procedures. You can still veiw dvaps threads here on ecf.

And, even if WTA did come out in a regular extraction in decent quantities (which I strongly doubt), there'd be less guarantee it would be "clean", in terms of not having the nitrosamines etc.

I also know that from my net research, nicotine does not have a decent level of solubility in ethanol etc. You can extract it, I know for sure, using boiling water, tho ineffectly - but I presume the end product would contain most of the stuff you want to avoid.

And I also know that WTA does contribute strongly to the effects of smoking - theres actually a quite few studies on this, and the contribution of mao inhibition to that.

The fact that this man implies that wta does doesn't do much of anything, doesnt add to his credibility.

Again, I think he's just trying to take down his perceived competition.

 

[snork]

Bravo.
Today I took the opportunity to order some from vapelicious. One knows not how fleeting that might be!