wanting to build my first mech mod confused??

[Grizz7]

Ok the last few weeks i have been studying on how to build a mech mod what to do and what you might need and safety

so i got to a little stooping point in the check out point and need helping seeing what ohms this mod will be stable at using (im horrible with ohm cac) and make sure all the parts will work together and want blow up in my face or kill me or something.

Efest Soda Dual Battery Universal Charger Works with 18350 18650 etc TR001 | eBay

esfest soda dual battery charger^^


Hcigar Aqua Clone Rebuildable Atomizer High Quality Ekowool Ribbon Wire | eBay

Aqua clone by hcigar


Fatdaddyvapes Pair of Mnke IMR 18650 30A 60A Batteries for Mechanical Mods | eBay

PAIR OF MNKE 18650 30A/60A IMR BATTERIES

Maxim Hygiene Products Organic Cotton Balls 100 Ea | eBay
organic cotton balls
they have Hydrogen Peroxide in them do they need to be boiled?????


Nemesis Clone by Hcigar Full Mechanical Mod Silver Gold USA Seller | eBay

Nemesis clone by hcigar
i was told this would work with the flat top battery as long as i take out the beauty ring im just not sure were it is



If anyone has any sugestions on what i should do or use expect the tank i want the tank no matter what anyone says (sorry)
just need to know all this will work together cause i dont want to hurt myself not sure if that charger will work with that battery and not sure if i need to boil the cotton balls first and what ohm stable with the batterys take before i should worry

Thanks for your time
Grizz7

 

[*deleon517*]

What worries me it that you want to play with something that knowing how to calculate ohms is highly important for. here is some input on those items.

from what I understand the mnke batteries are 22 amp not 30 amp, so I would ditch that ebay supplier. There is a lot of fake info and batteries out there on ebay. Knowing what you device can do and getting dupped on the batteries is even worst. Improper batteries are extremely dangerous, I always recommend buying from trusted sources like rtdvapor, illumination supply.

Just like batteries, chargers are extremely important I personally haven't seen anything on that exact charger. The popular ones are the nitecore, xtar and luc charger's.

Lastly I would be very careful with ebay for the hcigar stuff as some of it is and some of it isn't. as far as the build when built well with quality batteries you should be good with most set up's. until you really know what your doing and your builds get good I would stick to above 1 ohm. I've been rebuilding around a year now and normally build mine around .8-1.2 ohm, my wifes get built at 1.5-2ohm's.

 

[Grizz7]

i mean if i bought all that and got a ohm meter what would i be safe with ohm wise?

and a also will all those parts work togther?

and if i get those cotton balls will they need to be boiled first

 

[*deleon517*]

yes they will all work together. Also like I said the mnke's are 20amp not 30 like ebay and amazon commonly list. With that being said that can make a difference in what ohm's would be safe to use. I would still suggest looking for a battery from a reputable vendor, saving a few dollars on batteries can be more costly in plastic and dental surgeries. for a true 30 amp I would suggest getting the sony's vtc3 or vtc4 or the efest 1600mah red battery or even the efest purple ones.

with that being said a really good 30 amp battery can handle .2ohm's, I dont recommend starting there but it can do it when you are ready for it. Most will start around 1ohm or higher, if you are that unsure about things start above 1ohm and play it safe till you get things more.

 

[Grizz7]

well the Lister who is selling the battery has sold 900++ with no bad feedback on any of the sales i mean if you can post a legit site that ships fast and cheap and a charger i would greatly appreciate it
and i looked it up and they do make 30-60 amp


and i found this charger
XTAR XP1 Rechargeable Battery Charger Car Wall Adapter 18650 18700 17670 14650 | eBay

will this work with the mnke flat top battery cause it says 3.7 max and max voltage is 3.8 and 4.2 peak


and will i need to boil those cotton balls?

 

[Stylite]

My favorite charger is the EFest LUC.... I have one for my house and one for my car. It has a digital readout calculating your battery's voltage and how much it has charged, and it shuts off automatically when your battery is done charging. Plus you can charge at 0.5A or 1.0A.

Realistically with the atomizers you're buying you probably won't be sub ohming them so battery amp rating is pretty much safe. It's when you start sub ohming your atties you really want to make sure your batteries are at least rated for 20A.

Sony VTC4 batts are the go-to for me and EFest makes solid batteries I use as my backups.

 

[Grizz7]

EFest LUC looks and sounds very nice and i dont have any plans of sub ohm vaping i think the lowest i would ever got at this point in time would be 0.8 ohms and just need to know of a price range of 30 bucks for a battery and charger to fit in my budget

 

[inanitydefined]

I would make a couple of changes.
get sony vtc4 batteries instead. 30 amp limit and more capacity. Get them from a reliable source, I get mine from sun vaper. Ebay is a scary place and fakes abound. 2 batteries should be your minimum, I have 2 and am thinking about getting another 4 just because I am pretty much mech only these days. Always carry a spare in a safe case. I also use an 18650 flashlight so my spare goes in there. I switch out often, two batteries will get me through a 10hr work day both being drained to 3.8v unless I'm using a monster build

get a trusted charger. I use an intellicharger i2 but I'm thinking about getting something good. Don't cheap out on the charger. That one you have may be good, but I would suggest getting one that's tried and true.

Get a couple of spools of round wire in different sizes. I haven't tried flat but I hear it can be frustrating for newbies. I'm still a newb to rebuilding myself, but I've found high gauge twisted wire to be my happy place.

also make sure you get a meter. I get my wire from lightning vapes and they have one at a good price. DON'T BUILD BLIND!!! even if its a build you've done 100 times, something might be off and then it can get risky. $15-20 is cheap insurance.

make sure you get a kit together. Tweezers, something to wrap on(I use large sewing needles, you can get a set of a couple different sizes for $2 at Walmart), precision clippers (I use nail clippers), and a couple of good screwdrivers is a minimum. I would also suggest a jet lighter or torch. I use a ronson jetlight, but many use butane torches or the like.

Start off high. Don't start out with a subohm build. learn, practice, and get to know your vape first. Start with a single coil build also, something simple. I started with a basic microcoil.

Get ready to get addicted. Building is very zen. I will change my coils up about every other night just to try something new. I entered my first cloud competition yesterday, ran a .32 quad genny and built my friend a .28 quad dripper. (I corrupted him, he ordered his first mech today). My coils cleaned house so bad the judge said we'd just run everyone on my friends dripper. And I already know my build for the next one

Order some lower mg nic. I ran 18 before. Now I run 6-12 and my genny quad got me nic'd out in a couple of good rips of 6. plus if you run 18-24 it will hurt. You'll wake up the next morning and wish you hadn't done it

BE SAFE. chasing clouds is a blast, especially when you figure out how to get huge flavor also. But don't rush headlong into it. Enjoy the journey

 

[Grizz7]

inanitydefined can you post or send me a link to a trusted site to get those sonys batterys and a good charger that will work with this mod cause im kinda iffy about ordering the batterys from someone that is not a trusted seller but dont mind buying the mod and the tank off ebay

or will this set up be better?
http://www.sun-vapers.com/buy/xtar-mc1-portable-usb-charger/
http://www.sun-vapers.com/buy/sony-18650-vtc4/

 

[Zach904]

The beauty ring on the nemesis clone is the middle ring. I just purchased my whole setup last week on Ebay from reputable sellers.. Nemesis Hcigar clone, Sony 30amp 18650 x2, nitecore V2 dual charger, Kayfun lite plus tobeco clone, kangar 28 gauge wire, and peaches & cream cotton yarn (Walmart). My Nemesis may or may have not been the real Hcigar.. it was guaranteed real or my money back, but the trigger went out after 3 days (supposedly the #1 sign your nemesis "hcigar" is fake). After researching how to fix it, it appears the trigger was just assembled poorly, nothing was actually broke. I fixed it and it is super smooth and tight.
As it has been said above, as long as you keep your ohms around 1.5 and buy 30amp batteries (I keep hearing sony is best) and use a correct charger, I think you are all set to have fun man. Definitely get an ohm reader.. mine reads ohms and voltage and was 21 bucks (ignore the typo price listed in link) Ohm Meter Voltage Meter 2 in 1 Combo Reader RBA RDA Rebuildable Atomizer Mods | eBay
As for the cotton, many recommend boiling it. Others don't bother to. I haven't boiled mine yet, but I will as soon as I unpack my pots and pans, for the sake of trying to vape as healthy as I can..

 

[inanitydefined]

inanitydefined can you post or send me a link to a trusted site to get those sonys batterys and a good charger that will work with this mod cause im kinda iffy about ordering the batterys from someone that is not a trusted seller but dont mind buying the mod and the tank off ebay

or will this set up be better?
Xtar MC1 Portable USB Charger - Sun-Vapers.com
Sony US18650VTC4 2100mAh - Sun-Vapers.com

that's the place, though I would skip that charger. one bay isn't really enough, and you'll be happier in the long run with a better charger.
here's the one I have for not much more than what you have listed above
http://www.amazon.com/Nitecore-i2-I...=1393217288&sr=8-3&keywords=intellicharger+i2
I'm going to be getting a 4 bay when I can get the coin together, and I'm thinking of going with something higher end with more features like a voltage meter and adjustable charge rate. the efest LUC has these features in a 2 bay.
eFest LUC Charger by Efest (Second edition) - Sun-Vapers.com

 

[Zach904]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NITECORE-I2...AA-/131098143234?ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:3160

my charger 15 bucks^

Cant find my batteries on Ebay atm

 

[Stosh]

......or will this set up be better?

Xtar MC1 Portable USB Charger - Sun-Vapers.com
Sony US18650VTC4 2100mAh - Sun-Vapers.com

I've never ordered from Sun Vapers, but I read their product description. It would appear the person that wrote it seems to know batteries, and also doesn't suffer fools quietly.......and would carry quality products, no clone batteries.

Your e-bay seller's description did not pass the same test by any stretch, he's not even familiar with or knows what the actual USPS shipping restrictions.

 

[Grizz7]

so if i get this set up now after all of you people told me will it all work together and what would be the max ohm load i could put on it so i make sure i dont get close to it.

Xtar SP1 Charger - Sun-Vapers.com
Sony US18650VTC4 2100mAh - Sun-Vapers.com
Hcigar Aqua Clone Rebuildable Atomizer High Quality Ekowool Ribbon Wire | eBay
Nemesis Clone by Hcigar Full Mechanical Mod Silver Gold USA Seller | eBay

just need to know will all of this work and what would be a stable ohm load and the max

 

[wedoitall]

I would make a couple of changes.
get sony vtc4 batteries instead. 30 amp limit and more capacity. Get them from a reliable source, I get mine from sun vaper. Ebay is a scary place and fakes abound. 2 batteries should be your minimum, I have 2 and am thinking about getting another 4 just because I am pretty much mech only these days. Always carry a spare in a safe case. I also use an 18650 flashlight so my spare goes in there. I switch out often, two batteries will get me through a 10hr work day both being drained to 3.8v unless I'm using a monster build


get a trusted charger. I use an intellicharger i2 but I'm thinking about getting something good. Don't cheap out on the charger. That one you have may be good, but I would suggest getting one that's tried and true.

Get a couple of spools of round wire in different sizes. I haven't tried flat but I hear it can be frustrating for newbies. I'm still a newb to rebuilding myself, but I've found high gauge twisted wire to be my happy place.

also make sure you get a meter. I get my wire from lightning vapes and they have one at a good price. DON'T BUILD BLIND!!! even if its a build you've done 100 times, something might be off and then it can get risky. $15-20 is cheap insurance.

make sure you get a kit together. Tweezers, something to wrap on(I use large sewing needles, you can get a set of a couple different sizes for $2 at Walmart), precision clippers (I use nail clippers), and a couple of good screwdrivers is a minimum. I would also suggest a jet lighter or torch. I use a ronson jetlight, but many use butane torches or the like.

Start off high. Don't start out with a subohm build. learn, practice, and get to know your vape first. Start with a single coil build also, something simple. I started with a basic microcoil.

Get ready to get addicted. Building is very zen. I will change my coils up about every other night just to try something new. I entered my first cloud competition yesterday, ran a .32 quad genny and built my friend a .28 quad dripper. (I corrupted him, he ordered his first mech today). My coils cleaned house so bad the judge said we'd just run everyone on my friends dripper. And I already know my build for the next one

Order some lower mg nic. I ran 18 before. Now I run 6-12 and my genny quad got me nic'd out in a couple of good rips of 6. plus if you run 18-24 it will hurt. You'll wake up the next morning and wish you hadn't done it

BE SAFE. chasing clouds is a blast, especially when you figure out how to get huge flavor also. But don't rush headlong into it. Enjoy the journey

What mod did your buddy get.?

 

[b.Leo]

Don't kill your batteries !

 

[inanitydefined]

.14 is the theoretical max load though staying above .2 is probably a good idea.

As I stated earlier, start with a 1-1.5 ohm single and work your way down slowly. rebuilding is complex, you need the right combination of heat, wicking, and airflow. My cloud chaser tank is bored out with 7/64 air and wick holes and I run .2-.3 on that. my flavor dripper has smaller holes and doesn't go below .5. My kraken has the stock holes 'cause adjustable airflow is the shiznit. hottest I've run that is .8, though I plan to do a build the same coils in that as I do in my competition genny, though only two for around .6

and the wick is the most important thing. Its like the fuel pump in a race car. if it can't keep juice flowing, things will go all pear shaped with the quickness

What mod did your buddy get.?

he loved my nemesis so much he got the same thing. I'm not sure whats next for me. I'm looking at a magneto, a sigelei 20, a poldiac, a 69, or a sentinel.

 

[Grizz7]

so if i get this set up now after all of you people told me will it all work together and what would be the max ohm load i could put on it so i make sure i dont get close to it.

Xtar SP1 Charger - Sun-Vapers.com
Sony US18650VTC4 2100mAh - Sun-Vapers.com
Hcigar Aqua Clone Rebuildable Atomizer High Quality Ekowool Ribbon Wire | eBay
Nemesis Clone by Hcigar Full Mechanical Mod Silver Gold USA Seller | eBay

just need to know will all of this work and what would be a stable ohm load and the max

just need to know if this set up will work and what should be the max load i could pull with this battery and what would be a safe place to use this at to make sure nothing happens
all i need to know so i can get ready to order
i mean is it 0.5 ohms safe ?

inanitydefined said this but not sure if hes talking about the battery i plan to get or his own personal ones
14 is the theoretical max load though staying above .2 is probably a good idea

 

[inanitydefined]

just need to know if this set up will work and what should be the max load i could pull with this battery and what would be a safe place to use this at to make sure nothing happens
all i need to know so i can get ready to order
i mean is it 0.5 ohms safe ?

inanitydefined said this but not sure if hes talking about the battery i plan to get or his own personal ones
14 is the theoretical max load though staying above .2 is probably a good idea

that's for the sony vtc4, though you should stay far away from there until you have a couple dozen builds under your belt and I highly doubt the stock aqua will keep up. I don't know the aqua, but it might have a hard time at .5 stock unless you are running duals or a crazy coil/wick setup.
and let me change that probably to a definitely. More heat isn't always the answer, sometimes a .9 will run better than a .5 if its set up right. I didn't try it, but there was a guy at the vape meet with a regulated setup (sentinel, kick) running at 11 watt that was pushing as much vapor as my .55 dripper. that's almost 1/3 of the power and it really got me thinking about coil efficiency.
ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS leave yourself a buffer zone when you run hot coils. Just because the battery says its good for 30 amp doesn't mean its a good idea to run it up to the ragged edge. staying under 25 amp will be safer and get you more vape time

 

[Grizz7]

ok thats good man thanks
but is all these parts work toghter like will that charger work with that battery and that battery will fit in that mod?

and on another topic ive gotten were i can inhale straight to the lungs my nose is getting stuffed up and it fells werid when i drink any form of water or liquid
im using 80 20 mnt baker vapor 18mg
i read it could be the nic cause i vape like a chimny and could be the fact that i might have a pg allergy
anyone know anything or could possibly help?
also sometimes hard to catch my breath or start wezzing after big hits