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Was Health Canada swayed by big tobacco to ban nicotine juice?

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Chime

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It's just like booze in the 30s and other substances now.

It's sin taxes, if they don't get em, you can't sin.

I mean that's sort of fair being that our healthcare is government funded. But I myself never signed a contract to my knowledge that said I want their beastly inefficient healthcare system.

Then again it could have been a rider in the bottom of the form I signed to get my SSN but I was 12 at the time and had no idea how bad they'd use that card to screw me for the rest of my days XD
 

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kat, I wasn't implying that the PVs were to be a part of what they weren't suppose to be. Not a cessation product, I know that as does every vaper here. Just that why not sell their products and PVs at the same time. Some pharmacies, corner stores etc do it. But I can see the inappropriate manner that both being on a vendors site would look a bit hypocritical. But the HC wording could be translated into a "don't pester the vendor that sells cessation products". It "looks" like the PV vendor is attempting to comply with HC's wishes. And it was just a thought, not a realistic game plan as I hope my previous post was not taken completely serious. But if it was, it would be a nice way to get HC off of the vendors cases. If it could be done.

I see what you're getting at (and I got the humor behind it:)).

It's difficult though to explain entirely what's going on with the whole "approved for sale" PV's - when we have only half the information available and all of it looks incredibly uncouth.

From what is known - HC officers can tell a vendor, over the phone, that he/she is in compliance simply by agreeing not to sell nic (in compliance with what - exactly - who knows.... it's a mystery!).

For an additional $7K (+) - said vendor can get a certificate that authorizes them to sell PV's - but without any official recognition. The HC website remains the same - that the public is advised not to buy or use an ecig and that none are approved for sale in Canada. With that cert though - said vendor can place said products in stores.

Said vendor can also claim (and is - apparently - preferred that they do) - that said PV can be used in conjunction with NRT's as part of a smoking cessation program. Although HC remains adamant that PV's are not approved as any part of a smoking cessation program.

So if every vendor in Canada agreed to all these terms (no nic and the $7K cert) - would it change anything? Or would it lead to a situation where HC holds all the cards and can manipulate or close down the industry at their own leisure?

And what about the consumers? Who would spend extra on a mechanical sucking device that you use with the patch to quit smoking? Especially when the later has a whopping 10% long term success rate?

(yeah - Cokeybill - I probably ask too many questions - and yes, it frustrated my parents!)
 
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It's just like booze in the 30s and other substances now.

It's sin taxes, if they don't get em, you can't sin.

I mean that's sort of fair being that our healthcare is government funded. But I myself never signed a contract to my knowledge that said I want their beastly inefficient healthcare system.

Then again it could have been a rider in the bottom of the form I signed to get my SSN but I was 12 at the time and had no idea how bad they'd use that card to screw me for the rest of my days XD

I agree. Maybe the Canadian e-juice suppliers should be referred to as the "BOOTLEGGERS"...............
 
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