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Edit: changed my mind, not worth the argument, I'm too tired tonight.

Too bad, I was in agreement. There sure are a lot of overly entitled people out there that seem to feel like they are owed something. I hope AVE gets back up and running, but I'm pretty sure that Ben doesn't personally owe me any explanation or even a discount on juice when they do open back up. It's called capitalism, people. He has a product that is in demand. If you don't like how long it is taking him to get his business set up the way he wants it, then go somewhere else. That's your right as a consumer.
 

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Too bad, I was in agreement. There sure are a lot of overly entitled people out there that seem to feel like they are owed something. I hope AVE gets back up and running, but I'm pretty sure that Ben doesn't personally owe me any explanation or even a discount on juice when they do open back up. It's called capitalism, people. He has a product that is in demand. If you don't like how long it is taking him to get his business set up the way he wants it, then go somewhere else. That's your right as a consumer.

I agree totally. Just feels like beating a dead horse with a lot of people here. It's totally ridiculous.

Usually I would rise to the occasion, but like I said, I'm too tired and if I get into another pissing match tonight I'll never get to bed! Lol. At least someone saw my post before I removed it and agrees. ;)

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Too bad, I was in agreement. There sure are a lot of overly entitled people out there that seem to feel like they are owed something. I hope AVE gets back up and running, but I'm pretty sure that Ben doesn't personally owe me any explanation or even a discount on juice when they do open back up. It's called capitalism, people. He has a product that is in demand. If you don't like how long it is taking him to get his business set up the way he wants it, then go somewhere else. That's your right as a consumer.
I'm pretty sure this is a forum, and meant for differing opinions.
 

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I support AVE, I support Ben, I got my juice, tons and tons of juice, but I also feel for those who have had to deal w/ all the frustration. I think it's good people can come here and vent and voice their frustrations although sometimes it could be done w/ a bit more class.

I'm pretty sure this is a forum, and meant for differing opinions.
 

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I don't have a dog in this fight, just reminded me of this..........


Can we take animosity of 145, 147, & 148 and toss it?

Position 1.) I need a place people can come and say what they need to without fear of reprisal. This is, hopefully the place for those ideas to be heard whatever they may be positive or negative.

Position 2.) Is a reiteration of position number 1, with the added bit that Ben (Porphy) is an adult and a thick-skinned one at that. However, if you have to challenge an idea... please keep it to the idea and not the person stating the idea.

I need a "forum" in the strictest defined sense of the word. A place for people to come and openly share ideas on a certain subject. This is that place. We can call the subject "AVE Juice"
 

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I'm pretty sure this is a forum, and meant for differing opinions.

I dont think its the differing opinions that have been the problem recently.Its how they've been stated by handful of people that were egged on by someone with an axe to grind.

Truth be told, I'm not overly happy with Ave's lack of communication or progress on the website either especially when it appears that Ben has been checking into the forums a couple of times a day. It should take less than 10 minutes out of someones day to offer a quick update even if theres no real news to report. It lets people know youre at least thinking about them and that they matter.

Back in my serving days, the one thing good servers NEVER did was ignore a customer if the kitchen was taking too long with their food.

Sometimes I didnt have a clue how much longer things would take but my mere presence at their table was enough to keep my guests from walking out or getting angry. Hiding in the kitchen for 20 minutes wasnt the answer they were looking for and I think thats what has people upset here as well.

It isnt the message but the way its delivered sometimes that matters most.
 
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I dont think its the differing opinions that have been the problem recently.Its how they've been stated by handful of people that were egged on by someone with an axe to grind.

Truth be told, I'm not overly happy with Ave's lack of communication or progress on the website either especially when it appears that Ben has been checking into the forums a couple of times a day. It should take less than 10 minutes out of someones day to offer a quick update even if theres no real news to report. It lets people know youre at least thinking about them and that they matter.

Back in my serving days, the one thing good servers NEVER did was ignore a customer if the kitchen was taking too long with their food.

Sometimes I didnt have a clue how much longer things would take but my mere presence at their table was enough to keep my guests from walking out or getting angry. Hiding in the kitchen for 20 minutes wasnt the answer they were looking for and I think thats what has people upset here as well.

It isnt the message but the way its delivered sometimes that matters most.

Well said. PR is not their strong point.. I think the whole reason for most of this anxiety is lack of communication on Bens Part. There are people here qualified to help the server issues.. Help was offered. I have 2 dedicated servers and I know that the server issues can be solved very quickly. If you have someone competent to set them up. It can be done in a couple of days.. I dont really know if that was the real issue going on here. The design of the site could be made much more simple without huge bckground image to load. Especially when you have the kind of traffic this site has. Keep things to a minimum.. IMHO. We would like to have regular updates daily if possible and I dont see why not. I run 16 website sites that Market and I have the time to update everyday.. I'm sure a lot of people are now trying out other vendors that were once Ave junkys.. I know I am dIYing more than ever.. And liking it.. Way cheaper..
 
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