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[glassmanoak]

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I LOVE scientific double talk!!

4. We're going to need a chemist for that one. Or I could just pretend:

Extracted racemic oximer nicotinase is far superior to the acetate form of isomer nickelodeon with the extra methylethylbobethyl group formed from synthesis, it's apples and oranges really.

I don't know a single thing about this in case you couldn't tell.

Bad, Bad Shrimp! You will be punished!

3(?)

I think the shrimp was bad.

Thanks for the pics, Uncle!!
And thanks, Steve, for being a bumping kinda guy!

And Goodmorningnight et al

OMG, I'm creating posts as long as uncle's!!

 

[Factor52]

Doing some quick research on the net says most of the ecigs use synthetic nicotine and have since they were invented. I guess extracting it from tobacco is "relatively" new.

I imagine extracting is a fairly expensive process not to mention time consuming. I wonder how much difference there is between the 2? This is probably a good thing to discuss and find out exactly what we are putting into our bodis.

Here's what I came up with:

I asked someone who seems to be knowledgable about vaping he said that it was too expensive to synthesize and e-liquids are mostly extracted.

Also found on ECF a thread about synthetic Nicotine someone had asked Johnson Creek about synthetic nicotine.. This is a portion of their response:

When adjusted for inflation, the cost of the process is prohibitively expensive when compared to modern extraction methods. Additionally, we've never seen research indicating a feasible pharmaceutical grade product

The thread can be located here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...nthetic-nicotine-there-really-such-thing.html

 

[StevesCVO]

Interesting. They had the opposite to say on Web MD and a few other sites. They said there was pharmaceutical grade that they used for treatment of certain ailments. Time to do more research on this. I would really like to know.

 

[1w15h1w45m0ngu]

2 - 6/24

In all seriousness, I believe some molecules have different structures (I think they are called isomers) and it's possible to get different ratios of these slightly different molecules depending on how the chemical is synthesized/extracted. I don't know if this applies to nicotine but if it does, extraction versus different ways of synthesizing nicotine could potentially give subtly different effects in the brain. Sorry for dorking out there but wouldn't it be cool if you could find the specific kind of nicotine to suit your preferences if this kind of chemistry happened to apply to nicotine?


*edit* after posting that (I was slow about it) I read the posts above saying it's probably extracted for use in our beloved e-liquids so I suppose this doesn't really apply unless different strains of tobacco have different endogenous isomers of nicotine?

 

[StevesCVO]

Well I know they have been extracting caffeine for years and selling it to the cola companies. But they also have been making synthetic drugs like methadone for years too. I guess it's a crap shoot at this time until we check into it further.

 

[1w15h1w45m0ngu]

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This is off topic but methadone can't be extracted because it's not a naturally occurring chemical as opposed to caffeine which is naturally occuring.

*edit* nevermind, I misread that, you're absolutely right

 

[StevesCVO]

Didn't say they did. Reread my post

 

[sbdivemaster]

#3 6/23

Nope, beer's definitely not happening tonight.

 

[StevesCVO]

#1
no beer?!?! What the heck?

 

[1w15h1w45m0ngu]

3 - 6/24

A nice craft brew and a finely crafted PV is a difficult combination to beat in my opinion. I'm sorry beer isn't happening for you, craft or otherwise.

 

[sbdivemaster]

#4 6/23

Consumption of brew interfered with production of brew.

 

[StevesCVO]

#2
I have to agree

 

[sbdivemaster]

#5 6/23

Maybe Tuesday... Gotta crash soon - opening statements tomorrow at the crack of dawn.

 

[StevesCVO]

#3
Doh! At least you got your posts in for the day.

 

[glassmanoak]

1
OMG, I just looked up from a computer problem and realized that I can get in a numbered post! Hooray!!
And, a REAL Goodmorningnight et al!

 

[StevesCVO]

#4
Bump for the glassman! Maybe we can both get them all in tonight

 

[lisancentraltx]

#1 on 06/23/2013 -

Welp... I am at work :/ I pulled the trigger on another vendor in my search for a vapeable replacement for my favorite Turkish tobacco juice supplier since they don't always have sales and I find it difficult to buy high priced items without some type of discount. I hope the reviews on this new Turkish juice are leading me in the right direction =]

Uhhhhhhh, I got nothing major to contribute tonight... I hope someone is up to throw down something interesting on the table

 

[StevesCVO]

#5
Past bedtime for me lol. we were just burning up the posts in another contest that needed 2k "bumps" haha. Last 400 went in record time.

 

[1w15h1w45m0ngu]

4-6/24

I wonder if I can get all these in before I hit the hay tonight haha

What specifically about Turkish tobacco draws your to it, Lisancentraltx? I'm not sure I'm familiar enough with the flavor (or have enough of a developed palate) to tell the difference between that and other tobacco flavors.

 

[StevesCVO]

It's grown in camel dung. Makes it sweeter