Vamo/Bamboo Question

[torrix]

Hi,
I want to buy a vamo and I have 2 questions about it.
First I want to make sure - this "bamboo" is actually the vamo? or they just look the same?
eGo Bamboo APV V2 (Stainless Body) [D-B4 APV Stainless] - $43.50 : Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail

Another question is what battery to use for it. I thought I should use IMR battery but then I saw the description of the evic 2600mah samsung battery.
It says "The battery is made for joyetech eVic, also can fit eGo Bamboo APV V2 (Stainless Body)".
Joyetech eVic 2600mAh SAMSUNG rechargeable Li-Ion 18650 Battery [A-Y3 eVic Battery] - $11.50 : Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail

I'm confused. The evic battery is unprotected, can I use it for the bamboo?

Thanks

 

[The Ocelot]

Hi - The bamboo is a vamo, but I'm not sure about the batteries. You might look at the threads in the Vamo sub-forum to see what other people have posted regarding the batteries they use.

 

[meli.]

Months ago HC held a competition to rename the Vamo, Bamboo won. Go figure!

The Vamo /Bamboo takes IMR's, or Hybrid's like the safe chem' high drain Panasonic CGR'650CH's. I also use the newer Panasonic NCR's these are have higher mAh ratings, have safe battery chem and are excellent. Protected batteries mess about with the Vamo's circuitry and seem to create issues, it's a little hit or miss with them and really not worth the effort if you want a smooth running vamo.

The eVic Samsung 2600mah battery is an Unprotected ICR battery. Yes you can use it in your Vamo, as it has its own protection circuits, if there is a failure your Vamo should cut out straight away. As these are 18650's and there is no intention to stack, they *should* be ok, although they do require safe battery charging or chargers with built-in protection. Personally, I wouldn't choose to buy these batteries.

 

[cherrycakes]

no. We are not calling it the bamboo.
And the v3 looks dumb.
NO

 

[kiwivap]

Hi,
I want to buy a vamo and I have 2 questions about it.
First I want to make sure - this "bamboo" is actually the vamo? or they just look the same?
eGo Bamboo APV V2 (Stainless Body) [D-B4 APV Stainless] - $43.50 : Healthcabin Electronic Cigarettes - Wholesale and Retail

Yes, that's a Vamo.

IMRs are your best option with a Vamo - they can handle high drain better, I'm using a Vamo with an IMR as I am typing this actually.

 

[Satava]

You need a high drain battery for a vamo or any other VV/VW type mod. The high capacity batteries typically can't put out the amperage needed for the 10-15 watt step-up voltages. I'm not entirely sure if the 2600mah battery will suffice, but I might be mistaken.

My personal choice, and a lot of other users may agree, the Panasonic hybrid batteries. They're capable of 10amps (Vamo will only ever draw 5amps max) and have a slightly higher capacity than the normally reccomended AW IMR batteries.

I got mine here: Panasonic IMR Hybrid High Drain 18650 2200mah Button Top Li-Ion [gv-PANASONICHybrid18650-BUTTON] - $11.49 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more
And the nitecore i2 charger on that website does a great job without overcharging them.

Be wary of the Healthcabin purchase as the battery spring might be the old style that gets hot enough to damage batteries. I know that DiscountVapers has the fixed version.

 

[kiwivap]

Be wary of the Healthcabin purchase as the battery spring might be the old style that gets hot enough to damage batteries. I know that DiscountVapers has the fixed version.

Health Cabin fixed the spring issue ages ago - they even sent me a free replacement for one of my Vamos. In fact as I remember Health Cabin were the first vendor to put up an explanation and replacement spring offer online. They aren't selling old springs at all.

 

[SupplyDaddy]

Torrix

Yes, It's a VAMO
Yes the 2600 battery works fine in it
Yes, the VAMO uses Unprotected batteries Only
I am a VAMO user and I use that battery, And I use Health Cabin

 

[kiwivap]

Torrix


Yes, the VAMO uses Unprotected batteries Only
I am a VAMO user and I use that battery, And I use Health Cabin

As long as we're clear that IMR's are a type of safer unprotected battery, that can handle high drain. I've been using Vamos for 4 months and there's no way they only use ICRs - people reported problems with some unprotected batteries in Vamos.

 

[torrix]

Thank you all for the help
I guess I will use my AW IMR batteries just to be safe and maybe order some of the Panasonic Hybrid later.

 

[WillyB]

The Vamo /Bamboo takes IMR's, or Hybrid's like the safe chem' high drain Panasonic CGR'650CH's. I also use the newer Panasonic NCR's these are have higher mAh ratings, have safe battery chem and are excellent. Protected batteries mess about with the Vamo's circuitry and seem to create issues, it's a little hit or miss with them and really not worth the effort if you want a smooth running vamo.

The eVic Samsung 2600mah battery is an Unprotected ICR battery. Yes you can use it in your Vamo, as it has its own protection circuits, if there is a failure your Vamo should cut out straight away. As these are 18650's and there is no intention to stack, they *should* be ok, although they do require safe battery charging or chargers with built-in protection. Personally, I wouldn't choose to buy these batteries.

Hybrid is such a lame ... term. All li-Ions can be considered hybrids.

And what exactly is your ICR comment supposed to mean?

Samsung makes many batteries with an ICR designation. Depending on which one the chemistry can be NCM/LCO, NCM, NCM/LMO. I guess that makes them all hybrids.

You comments on 'safe' are also interesting. The 'Panasonic CGR'650CH' are safe according to the manufacturer, it's interesting to note that Panasonic has chosen to NOT use a PTC in those, something that is found in even some of the cheapest 18650's out there.

Most commercial cylindrical 18650 Lithium-Ion (Li-Ion) cells have two internal protective devices: the Positive
Temperature Coefficient (PTC) and the Current Interrupt Device (CID). The PTC protects the cells under external
short conditions and the CID protects the cells under overcharge conditions.

As these are 18650's and there is no intention to stack, they *should* be ok, although they do require safe battery charging or chargers with built-in protection

Nice mumbo-jumbo.

the newer Panasonic NCR's these are have higher mAh ratings, have safe battery chem and are excellent.

Here's an AW re-wrapped Panasonic 3100 vs. a Sanyo 2600 at a hefty 5A drain.

Excellent isn't the term I'd use, sad is more like it. It's sad how poorly the Panasonic does, and it's exaggerated mAh (established by dragging the cell down to 2.5V) means nothing for vapers.

 

[meli.]

Hybrid ../..vapers.

We are discussing the Vamo. It requires Unprotected batteries that are High Drain, Safe Chem and/ or are IMR/INR's. The Vamo requires batteries that have Higher discharge rates. ICR's, in particular the eVic Samsung battery we are discussing in this thread, has a Safe Current Output Limit that should not be exceeded. With this specific ICR the maximum current is twice the mAh rating. Therefore, the safe maximum current output of this 2600mAh battery would be 5.2A. It is also my understanding the same goes for most ICR's and that members should check these values before making purchases for High Drain Devices. So yes, this Samsung ICR should work but it is Not ideal and it is Not recommended for use in the Vamo.

IMR/INR's and Panasonic CGR's have safety outputs of 10A's. These types are Perfect choices for Vamo's.

Whilst you have Issues with Panasonic 'Hybrid' CGR's, most members including battery reviewers have only positive things to say about them. (btw 'hybrid' albeit lame assed or not, is not a term I personally invented but is used by many vendors and users alike.) Perhaps a refresher on this battery will help. Panasonic CGR'650CH Lygte Review

Who knows why you chose to make a comparison between a Sanyo battery (unless you are suggesting all batteries are made equal) and a Protected NCR'650A? When we are discussing Unprotected Batteries which are recommended for use in Vamo's. I own a pair of NCR'650B's whilst they are not ideally recommended they have received excellent reports from Vamo users, they are unprotected cells, they do have safe chem, they are excellent, they work without issue in my Vamo. This is my opinion, based on my own experience, and I am Entitled to it - just as much as you are to yours.

Granted when charging batteries of any type safety precautions should be in place and especially so with Unprotected ICR's. As the eVic has it's own protection circuits these will kick in should this battery fail, however should the charger not have built-in protection and this battery fails whilst charging, what will happen? Oh! but I forget you're the one that dislikes LiPo bags as well as all things Xtar and Nitecore.

You happily criticise suggestions but you do Not offer any solutions, then again
I suspect this is simply a symptom of Willy by name, Willy by nature.