What are the best made clones out today??

[Bad Ninja]

I'm digging the panzer black...

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Keep in mind:
Panzer Blackhawks (clones) have serious voltage drop.
They look sweet but the voltage drop is noticeable.
Read some reviews and research this before buying one.
I got to play with one this past weekend.
It's nice but needs some work to be a performer.
Out of Blackhawk, SS panzer, and a Venus clone the Venus had the lowest voltage drop.
All were fasttech clones.

 

[vapo jam]

absolute best clone ever made is the sentinel m16 by grand vapor. it's a clone of the m28 mod by j creations, which is in turn a clone of the sentinel by grand vapor.

sorry for smart@$$ answer, but in my mind it's indisputable

 

[catilley1092]

There are some Astro clones around, which is what I use, am very satisfied with the mod. It doesn't have quite as much brass components as the authentic model, but that's to be expected in a $30 mod. Actually less at FastTech ($21.04 with free ship).

It takes AW IMR 18490 3.7V 1100mah batteries w/out having to adjust the sleeve, these are good batteries at a great price.

$21.04 Astro Telescopic Mechanical Mod - stainless steel+brass at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

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[Cloud Junky]

Now my list of clones that do what they should are;

(Kayfun Clone) Russian 91% from UTC made by Kebo: superior flavor, adjustable airflow! two thumbs up

Atomic RDA Clone EHPro: two thumbs up, great flavor, great cloud production

Magma RDA unknown clone company : two thumbs up, great flavor

Stingray (Brass) Infinite: Button crackly and inconsistent, needed lots of TLC and break in time. One thumb up


All we clones because the originals were sold out everywhere.

 

[mikegun]

Which brand of stainless steel nemmy has the best and darkest lasering on the logo...

 

[Tooth Tamer]

Im loving my new windrose clone thing is slick!

locking ring can be a pain if you lock it down to tight but other then that button is awesome!
have yet to pick up my stingray since

 

[4redstars]

Besides the panzer was looking at the King Mod and Private v2...so many options

I was thinking of staying away from FT and looking at 101vape, vaperoyalty or ebay.

 

[blueGrassTubb]

Which brand of stainless steel nemmy has the best and darkest lasering on the logo...

I'd guess either the Infinite or Hcigar.

From most all reports, the Hcigar is virtually indistinguishable from the original. Were I in the market for a Nemmy clone, I wouldn't even look anywhere else other than at Hcigar.

 

[Bad Ninja]

I'd guess either the Infinite or Hcigar.

From most all reports, the Hcigar is virtually indistinguishable from the original. Were I in the market for a Nemmy clone, I wouldn't even look anywhere else other than at Hcigar.

The Tobeco version has the darkest etching of my Nemmy clones.
However IMHO its not the better clone.
The Tobeco version has different threading than the original, and the 3d clones won't fit.

 

[Kahuna Cowboy]

I've had awesome luck with HCigar and EHPro, very impressed with them.

I have an Infinite Stingray in my mailbox waiting for me when I get home, I hope I can add them to the top tier list too.

Tobecco I usually find is total garbage.

 

[Bad Ninja]

I've had awesome luck with HCigar and EHPro, very impressed with them.

I have an Infinite Stingray in my mailbox waiting for me when I get home, I hope I can add them to the top tier list too.

Tobecco I usually find is total garbage.

Generalizations are usually incorrect.
Be careful tossing them around without a lot of data.
My Tobeco stingray is better built than the infinite.
My Tobeco KFLs function flawlessly.
My Tobeco Hades is the best hades clone I've seen.

Infinite is a company like HCigar.
They don't manufacture. They sell other manufacturers goods.

 

[Kahuna Cowboy]

Generalizations are usually incorrect.
Be careful tossing them around without a lot of data.
My Tobeco stingray is better built than the infinite.
My Tobeco KFLs function flawlessly.
My Tobeco Hades is the best hades clone I've seen.

Infinite is a company like HCigar.
They don't manufacture. They sell other manufacturers goods.

For every happy ending is someone's total nightmare.

My Tobecco Caravela's were poorly machined and finished, had terrible threading, the logo was engraved at strange angles, and the switch was just this side of awful. My Tobecco Hammer was engraved far more shallow than the comparable HCigar version I purchased later. It too had a flaky switch. My Tobecco Kayfun 3.1 had poor engravings, bad threading, and thin o-rings. The only one I had any good amount of luck with was the Tobecco Aqua, which the only gripe I had was the logo and serial number once again poorly done and very shallow.

I am happy that you've had such great luck with Tobecco, but I was merely stating my opinion.

 

[Bad Ninja]

For every happy ending is someone's total nightmare.

My Tobecco Caravela's were poorly machined and finished, had terrible threading, the logo was engraved at strange angles, and the switch was just this side of awful. My Tobecco Hammer was engraved far more shallow than the comparable HCigar version I purchased later. It too had a flaky switch. My Tobecco Kayfun 3.1 had poor engravings, bad threading, and thin o-rings. The only one I had any good amount of luck with was the Tobecco Aqua, which the only gripe I had was the logo and serial number once again poorly done and very shallow.

I am happy that you've had such great luck with Tobecco, but I was merely stating my opinion.

The point I was making ( that was apparently missed, yet affirmed by your reply) was that generalizations will be misleading.
Tobeco, HCigar, EHPro, infinite, hot tech, all CAN make a good product, and all have made poor examples.
Some models are better than others.
Low Quality control is one of the reasons we see such a lower cost in clones.
Quality varies from model to model even from the same cloner.
Even from mod to mod.

Infinite got tons of praise for their Stingray clone.
Before many were even available .
Now that many are in the hands of owners, they are finding wobble issues and bad switch problems.

 

[Kahuna Cowboy]

The point I was making ( that was apparently missed, yet affirmed by your reply) was that generalizations will be misleading.

... and again, you seem to keep reading into my replies that I am making a broad generalization when I was stating my experience and personal opinion. I just find better consistency in quality with other brands, well as consistent as a Chinese cloner company can be I suppose. But never the less, I have had less duds and been impressed more often with other clone brands. The very nature of the thread is to ask people's opinions, I provided mine, you provided yours, but you still keep on me for providing mine.

So with that said I will add a disclaimer.

This post, and the previous 2 posts by Kahuna Cowboy do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the ECF, Bad Ninja, or the vaping world.

Reader discretion is advised.​

 

[time2quit]

Now my list of clones that do what they should are;

(Kayfun Clone) Russian 91% from UTC made by Kebo: superior flavor, adjustable airflow! two thumbs up

Atomic RDA Clone EHPro: two thumbs up, great flavor, great cloud production

Magma RDA unknown clone company : two thumbs up, great flavor

Stingray (Brass) Infinite: Button crackly and inconsistent, needed lots of TLC and break in time. One thumb up


All we clones because the originals were sold out everywhere.

I disagree on the brass Stingray. Mine has been absolutely flawless since day one.

 

[Lucasness]

I disagree on the brass Stingray. Mine has been absolutely flawless since day one.

My brass stingray by Infinate is also very nice. I took the switch apart and cleaned it up. Now it's almost the same as the authentic stingray. Little different throw, but mine is perfect after cleaning it up.

 

[benearl1]

I disagree on the brass Stingray. Mine has been absolutely flawless since day one.

You must be lucky! I was going to buy one but it seems a ton of people are getting crunchy wobbly switches not just from infinite either. I'd rather wait till china comes out with a new stingray clone promising a smooth switch so like 4 weeks maybe.

 

[huhhman]

Hcigar usually make the best quality clone, that being said I have a brass nemesis that isn't as good as my copper nemesis. The threads aren't as smooth and the button sucks. Clones are a hit or miss with any brand, but hcigar usually had the best quality. Got a black copper stingray coming which I hope it's a good one.

 

[Bad Ninja]

Hcigar usually make the best quality clone, that being said I have a brass nemesis that isn't as good as my copper nemesis. The threads aren't as smooth and the button sucks. Clones are a hit or miss with any brand, but hcigar usually had the best quality. Got a black copper stingray coming which I hope it's a good one.

HCigar doesn't manufacture clones.
They buy them from manufacturers and resell them.

 

[huhhman]

HCigar doesn't manufacture clones.
They buy them from manufacturers and resell them.

That explains the difference in the two. Looked like they were made by two completely different companies. Thanks for the info.