Hey John, I tried taking a regular hit of my Vivi Nova without a drip tip in place and got a mouth full of juice. I'm thinking that might burn the sinuses a bit, so I'm going to have to pass.Under, I tried it right after I typed that.
My Backwoods Virginia did taste a little different, but it makes me sneeze!
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OK, who's up for something truly disgusting? ("Me, me!!" LOL)
Take the drip tip off of a Vivi Nova so you get a nice, tight seal at your nostril, and take a hit. Interesting, to say the least.
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LOL ... you must understand, I am envisioning you as a monkey doing this! The mental image is right in between gross and hilarious ... I'm trying hard to stick with the hilarious ...
I agree that it's something that a monkey would do, but in my defense, we do share 98% of their dna.
I don't think that a properly-functioning Vivi Nova will allow juice to get into the airway - drip tip or not - but I can certainly understand your decision to pass on nose-vaping; it's really not all it's cracked up to be.
My pet is someone telling me my v2 cig-a-like is inferior to their eGo Twist. I KNOW that!
flintlock, all that matters is if your e-cig works for you. Nothing else. One day if you want a Twist...go for it. Until then, your V2 is just fine!
Well, it doesn't, and I want a Twist!
One of the worst things is I can't blink my eye balls before I have to recharge it.
That's actually almost 100% factually wrong.
Your taste buds (of 5 different types) respond most strongly to specific flavors. That means they each react to a broad range of chemicals that "have" that "taste" based on their molecular structure. But it's course coded.
Just like touch, sight, and hearing. You do not have specific receptor cells for every type of touch that you can discern, and you cannot hear every single frequency. Sight is the easiest to explain: color vision comes from cells that are set up in systems that respond most strongly to 3 specific wavelengths of light. If your retina gets bombarded by light at a different wavelength, they respond incompletely and your brain puts it together.
That's a simplified wavelength response curve for human vision.
Obviously you can see colors other than that one specific shade of blue, that one specific shade of green, and that one specific shade of yellow-ish green.
Your taste buds work the same way. The ratio between how the 5 different types of taste buds respond to whatever you put in your mouth sends a whole host of signals to your brain, which you interpret as flavor.
Smell is the only sense that works differently. You actually have specific receptors in your olfactory system that respond to every single chemical that you can smell. They're all individual subtypes of neurons firing when the right chemicals bind to them.
Ifor onehave a horrible sense of smell. It wasn't good to begin with, and decades of allergy medication (and the associated allergies) mean that I just plain don't smell a lot of stuff, partially because my sinuses are usually blocked or swollen and partially because I've been taking drugs since I was 6 that can kill those chemoreceptors as a side-effect. And I can still taste things. And there's a huge variety in juice.
I make a point of telling people who often don't even know what variable voltage is that it will give you a better overall vape by letting you turn the heat of the coil up or down. If someone already knows that, great.
"Just fine" is good, but I think variable voltage will make "just fine" even "finer", and will improve the chances that someone's e-cig does work for them, where "work" = "escape the deadly clutches of cigarette smoking".
Is a Twist better than a V2? Of course it is. I think he knows that. But I don't always think in those terms. I don't know flint. For all I know he's broke and can't afford $50 for two new Twists and any extra expenditures for chargers and juice feeding devices for it. Maybe he's in an environment where a ci-a-like makes more sense to him. I can't read his mind. All I know is I don't want him to feel inferior that he is using a V2. That's my angle.
I think we agree more than we disagree. Again, I'm not talking about vapers like flintlock, who understands the tradeoffs between look-alikes and VV eGos. I'm talking about beginners who know very little, and don't understand what variable voltage would even do for them. I want to make sure they know, so they'll have the best chance of getting off of killer ciggies.
I just see a lot of people coming in here and saying that they already tried vaping, but it didn't work for them, and they went back to smoking. I think it's safe to say that the vast majority of those people used constant-voltage look-alikes. I just think it's also safe to say that a person's chances of being successful at getting off of cigarettes are increased by using variable voltage. As always, I don't think a very good case can be made for saying that CV increases those chances over VV.
And as I've also said, the fact that cigarettes killed my father and are currently killing my best friend are a very large part of the reason that I'm so adamant about making sure that people enjoy vaping as much as they possibly can, with VV equipment that is now very reasonably priced.
I understand your point and yes, we agree on most of them. In this case, flint acknowledged that a Twist is better. I wish I knew the circumstances behind everyone's motives because it would make for a more approprite response. Unfortunately, we don't always know what they are. I'd hate to be raking on a guy to get a $60 Twist kit only to find out he lost his job and they are foreclosing on his house. I could ask, but I don't see that as my business unless he offers it up. If you are saying a Twist is a better option over a V2, you'll win that argument every time. His likliehood of quitting smoking byusing a Twist over a V2 is higher to be sure. But given his particular circumstances, the V2 might be all he can contemplate at the moment. And a V2 is still light years better than smoking. It's not always about the "best". Sometimes just "better" is best.
Pretty hard to argue against charts and graphs. Good job Mostapha. I was a color matcher years ago that got me through undergrad. I have a special appreciation for taste and flavoring because of it. Eyes are sight. Taste buds are taste. But they have many similarities...especially when you change the recipes to get an expected result.
Bronze, that was a great response, and I really think that bartender should have let your avatar have a drink. I, for one, will never give my business to that, or any other establishment that bounces the father of our country! 
Here, have one on me.
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Latest vaping pet peeve: getting drip tips stuck in my nose.
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Latest vaping pet peeve: getting drip tips stuck in my nose.
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I don't want to step on any Twist or VV lover's toes, but I have a whole HOST of ecigs going on all the time. At least 10. I most often reach for my 650 mAh and 350 mAh eGo's and 808's OVER my Twist, Provari and several other VV devices. Oh and I have almost never adjusted the Twist voltage since I got it many months back. With the right ejuice and today's modern cartos (or my favorite Mini Vivi), VV is almost unnecessary and a bit overkill for me at this point.
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.Today's pet peeve: Not enough hours in the day to vape!
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I don't want to step on any Twist or VV lover's toes, but I have a whole HOST of ecigs going on all the time. At least 10. I most often reach for my 650 mAh and 350 mAh eGo's and 808's OVER my Twist, Provari and several other VV devices. Oh and I have almost never adjusted the Twist voltage since I got it many months back. With the right ejuice and today's modern cartos (or my favorite Mini Vivi), VV is almost unnecessary and a bit overkill for me at this point.
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Today's pet peeve: Not enough hours in the day to vape!
I think we're pretty much discussing what to recommend to someone just starting out. IMO, VV for them is not "overkill", but instead, critical for getting the best vape for the buck, especially when they might not know exactly (or even roughly) what resistance goes well with any particular device. And I think it's particulary nice to have a VV eGo when you have a Vivi Nova that comes with a 1.8, a 2.4, and a 2.8 ohm coil, any one of which you can power to an optimum wattage without even knowing which one you're using.
And even for experienced vapers, I just think it's nice to have VV just for the fact that you can compensate for variations between the "stated" resistance and "actual" resistance of a particular attachment.
I see your point John - I wouldn't say its critical tho. Some new vapers have found the twist is not for them - and have bought something else. I think we need to just be open to not one size fits all. I think we've seen all your points in favor (please don't wall of text me in reply ).
I have personally helped vapers who started with a twist and were ready to give up vaping. it really wasn't for them. I' m not saying they will never try vv again, but they really didn't want it to start with after trying. On the other hand, some people start with a twist and it absolutely works for them.
I think the bottom line is that beginners have a journey usually, and if what they have doesn't work lets help them find what does - whether that means trying vv or ditching vv to start with.
). I have personally helped vapers who started with a twist and were ready to give up vaping. it really wasn't for them. I' m not saying they will never try vv again, but they really didn't want it to start with after trying. On the other hand, some people start with a twist and it absolutely works for them.
I think the bottom line is that beginners have a journey usually, and if what they have doesn't work lets help them find what does - whether that means trying vv or ditching vv to start with.
Bet your sinuses are pretty clear by now though. Picture please
Latest vaping pet peeve: getting drip tips stuck in my nose.
LOL ... you must understand, I am envisioning you as a monkey doing this! The mental image is right in between gross and hilarious ... I'm trying hard to stick with the hilarious ...
Bet your sinuses are pretty clear by now though. Picture please
LMAO..... I want a pic too.
I'm having one of those everything tastes the same days. I hate those.
not flavors but tastes, you are confusing the 2 words. Tastes, is very specific to the chemicals that your taste buds are sensitive to. for example, the salty receptor gives you salty when it is in the presence of sodium ions (like in sodium chloride, salt). This goes for acidity for sour, for example. What we perceive is definitive and instinctual. The purpose of our tastebuds were to help our ancestors "this is good to eat, tastes good, and that tastes bad, must not be good to eat".
Flavor on the other hand is handled by the olfactory receptors and more associated to memory and is comparative; "this tastes like the stuff I liked before" because it is processed in a different part of your brain. We associate flavor to memory that used our other senses as well (textural, temp, etc) and changes as we age.
So no, we don't get a whole host of signals from our taste buds that we interpret as flavor. We detect chemicals that our taste buds relay to our brain as the 5 senses of taste. We don't taste oranges as oranges from our taste buds alone. from them we sense, sweet, sour, maybe bitter. Then we smell the orange, feel the orange, and we remember, that particular combination gets processed in our brains as an orange. So you may have a few misconceptions. And yes even with your Hyposmia, you can still taste your liquids. But AGAIN, olfactory fatigue, the reason people lose the flavor of their liquid over time has NOTHING to do with their taste buds; which is my original point.
So no, I'm not 100% factually wrong. Sorry.
I can't believe you guys are still arguing with John. Haven't you all figured out yet he's one of those people who is always right?
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