still good batteries... which reminds me, we had 8 browns... gave one of the dripbox 60w away with one, have 3 kanger kbox 75 minis and i'm using one unmarried set(i know, i know!) for the new alien 220, 1 for my dripbox 60w... 4 vtc4(23a 2500 mah)-2 married sets, one set each for the dripbox 160w... damn, i need more batteries! time to order some more browns for now i guess...