What causes liquids to go bad?

[brandon555]

I've always wondered this. For example, I've got some TV Tastyfinger that's been in my kitchen cabinet for 4 years but it still smells and tastes like it did when it was new. But then I've got other liquids that taste like crap if they sit in a bottle for just a couple months.

Is it certain flavors, or the nic? It seems like tobacco flavors are the biggest offender. Just curious what it is.

 

[sofarsogood]

I've always wondered this. For example, I've got some TV Tastyfinger that's been in my kitchen cabinet for 4 years but it still smells and tastes like it did when it was new. But then I've got other liquids that taste like crap if they sit in a bottle for just a couple months.

Is it certain flavors, or the nic? It seems like tobacco flavors are the biggest offender. Just curious what it is.

Nic can oxidize. That will happen slower where it's cool and dark. No doubt some flavors are very stable and others not so much. Apparently micro organisms can't live and grow in e liquid so it doesn't spoil like food.

 

[AzPlumber]

Oxygen, light and plastic.

 

[bussdriver]

I finally tossed out my Tastyfinger after 3 years; just got too dark for me to want to try it out.

 

[SteveS45]

Excessive heat, direct sunlight and oxygen all contribute but it also has a lot to do with the flavorings in the mixes. The quality of the ingredients plays a big part in it in my opinion.

 

[JCinFLA]

I spoke with the owner of a popular company yesterday, who sells flavorings from many different manufacturers. After discussing a few flavorings I had some questions about...I asked her about a DIY eliquid I'd made about 6 months ago. I just recently found I had about 20mL left of it. It was great when I'd first made it and used the other 30mL from the bottle. But now the 20mL tastes alittle "soapy" to me.

She said flavorings for eliquids don't "go bad" per se, as in spoiling. If they do change individually at all over about a year's time or more, it's usually just a very slight weakening of the flavoring. However, some flavoring combinations reach a point, long after thoroughly blending, where they begin to develop a taste that's less than desirable. Said if it's a "soapy" taste, it usually happens more frequently when there's a higher total flavoring % in the mix.

So, based on the above, maybe the "bad" 1 of your eliquids had quite a bit more flavoring in it, than the other one. However, I've also had some small 15mL bottles of tobacco flavored eliquids (from 3 different vendors) that all went to being "funky tasting & bad smelling" after about 6-7 months. They were in glass bottles, kept in a dark cabinet, in my air-conditioned house. So with them, it wasn't because of sunlight, nor oxygen exposure, nor being in plastic, nor because of heat. I have no idea why they all went "bad".

 

[sonicbomb]

A surfeit of pestilential maisamma.

 

[SteveS45]

I have a Lava Cake DIY I mixed up months ago and it was incredible then but after some aging it got so strong it required being diluted as it was way, way too strong. Wasn't like that after about a month but a few more it got so strong it was like wow what happened??

 

[Bob Chill]

Some flavorings react and change flavor or color quicky and others stay pretty stable for long periods of time. I only DIY but whenever I add a certain vanilla to a mix it will turn pink within a month and move towards amber in 2 months. Flavor gets harsher as well. I limit those mixes to sizes that will be used within a month.

Hangsen tobaccos stay completely stable for many months on the shelf. Sweet flavorings from Capellas like apple pie will turn dark brown within 2 months.

It doesn't take much of a particular flavor either. I only add 1% vanilla flavoring to a couple recipes and the change is noticeable fairly quickly. Imo from experience, different juices age in completely different ways and sweeter ones are generally the ones that change the fastest.

 

[Verb]

Your Dad pissing in it.



Oh, sorry, wrong vape forum.