What devices go well with a chocolate vape?

[Rickajho]

Burnt taste in any liquid usually comes from running at a higher voltage than the combo of device and liquid can tolerate. I know you said you shoot for the highest resistance coils you can find for those devices - which is good. But you can still be running it too hot and crashing right into burning crud onto the coil within a few hits. Once that happens the damage has been done and you can't reverse it unless you clean the coil.

I've said it a million times already - Kanger BCC stuff doesn't like or need high voltage. I put what is supposed to be a 2.2 ohm coil in a ProTank today - it's actually metering 2.6 ohms. (A Tesla and a Vamo 2 both read it as 2.6 ohms.) Even then, I'm running that thing at a humongous 3.1 volts as a new coil. If I dared run the voltage up any higher it would ruin the experience. Not kidding. I'm getting so much vapor off that thing at 3.1 volts I could vape myself sick if I chose to.

Try a clean coil and dial your Twist all the way down before trying again.

 

[Barbara21]

The reason I haven't dipped my toes in cartomizer tanks is truly the different language I'm seeing lol. If you do have any direct links saved up, even just a few would probably get me to the point I can order the right thing and try it out.

The utterly confusing thing is: I tested this juice in the shop on one of their sitting-there-for-days disposable CE4's, and it tasted fairly amazing. It was very obviously a creamy blend. When they weren't looking, I turned the voltage up and down on their mod to see if I could get it to burn to see if it'd compare with other results I've had with chocolate blends (they deserve it anyway, they're a very bad vendor), and amazingly, the stuff wouldn't burn. It kept tasting great, and that's why I bought it. Yet it works on nothing I have.

This seems obvious but...how about trying a CE4??

 

[OlDogNewTricks]

So far the only chocolate vape that has been worth anything to me in my Boge LR XLs (8 watts) has been Darkest Day Vapor's Espheni's Blood. It has the flavor of an 'Almond Joy' candybar. Magnificent. The only chocolate that doesn't taste like wood to me. I would suppose that dripping would be the only way to make other chocolates taste good, but I have utterly no interest in the 'fussiness' of all that. YMMV, just my two cents. Good luck and have fun!

 

[GoodNews!]

I tried the Halo's Cocoa on a CE5 (shouldn't be any real difference - those CE4's get expensive) and my Aspire. It taste a slight bit less burned in the CE5, but wasn't anything anyone could actually vape. Burnt hits and burn residue actually gives me mad coughing and sneezing fits, so it's nothing I can simply just ignore or vape til it gets better. And with the Protank heads, I always vape at the highest resistances I can find, and I stay at the lowest my battery goes - 3.3, which according to a voltage test, is actually 3.1.

Now, I have had luck with other juices giving me about an hour of good vaping when the resistance and voltage are practically the same number, but this gives me very, very little vapor, just an OK flavor....

 

[Barbara21]

This seems obvious but...how about trying a CE4??

I tried the Halo's Cocoa on a CE5 (shouldn't be any real difference - those CE4's get expensive) and my Aspire. <snip>

There *shouldn't* be any difference but obviously there is - you liked one (CE4 in store), don't like the other (CE5 at home).

The only other variable there could be is the juice itself. Yes, I know it's the same juice but the *age* of the juice makes a big difference. Another poster here <waving to OlDog> is on record for being shocked at how much a juice could change after some aging. (It was a chocolate juice too.)

 

[TUC]

I vape chocolate on a regular basis, and find that old school works best for me. Boge single coil 3.0 ohm cart with 4 holes punched, two lower and two higher set in a regular tank. Voltage set at 3.9 to 4.2 usually works best for me.

 

[TUC]

None that I've tried... other than maybe Ikenvape cartos in a carto tank. They have 2 3mm transfer holes and do well with thick, dark and sugary juices. Saying that... don't expect them to last more than 3-4 days as just about any above described juice will gunk up and caramelize on the coil.

I carefully use a needle to "clean" out the passage in my carts...and am able to extend their life span.

 

[GoodNews!]

I want to try out cartomizer systems, but my big thing is being able to experiment with different ohms and styles, yet not put too much money down on different tanks for different sized cartomizers. With cartos, I'd like to try a 3.0ohm, and a vendor recommended me to use dual-punched dual-coil 1.25ohm from his shop (saying that no matter how that sounded, that for him, it's all he uses and that, past what he could logically explain, that specific version was the only one that wicked amazingly well and gave great flavor no matter how high you cranked it), and overall I'd just like trying different stuff. It seems there's so many sizes and widths of the cartos though...

 

[TUC]

The diameter of carts are pretty much the same, than you have two lengths...regular and XL. At 1.25 you are going to be limited by the amperage...so no matter how high you dial in, you may hit a ceiling, so to speak, with regards to voltage or wattage output.

ProVari Ohms 1.4 1.6 2.1 2.1 3.0
Min Voltage 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9 2.9
Max Voltage 4.5 4.9 5.8 5.8 6.0
Min Watts 6.0 5.3 4.0 4.0 2.8
Max Watts 14.5 15.0 16.0 16.0 12.0

These are readings I measured on my provari with different ohm carts/atty's. For me, Boge 3.0 single coil seems to work best.

 

[GoodNews!]

Do the Boge 3.0's fit the IBTanks? I'm considering the Halfling with IBTanks because I'm so tired of putting so much juice into tanks that give me burnt hits.

 

[Spydro]

Interesting comments, proves that tastes do vary.
I started vaping with two 78mm & four 102mm Halo G6 batts and a bunch of gear for them (I hated the cartos but liked and so still use the mini tanks). And with the gear came the mentioned Cafe Mocha, Belgian Cocoa, Shamrock (and Twisted Java, Kringle's Curse, Malibu - Tribeca for my tobacco). At first of the three chocolates in the mini tanks the Belgian Cocoa was the best, the Cafe M was not bad at all, but I hated the Shamrock. So I bought 30's of Tribeca, Cafe Mocha (2), Kringle's Curse (2), Belgian Cocoa and Malibu. Later the CM was the best choco to me, Shamrock still the worst of any Halo liquid I tried, and I couldn't gag Tribeca down any longer. I also tried Voodoo when it came out... was OK if you like fruit. I soon started buying mech mods, a VV/VW and all kinds of RDA's, RBA's, etc. Getting them ended my using Halo liquids... I didn't like it in any of my new gear (except the Kringle's Curse which was my surprise favorite of all of them from the start). I got into DIY instead and didn't look back at Halo liquids (still have four Halo 30ml's - two open 3/4+ full and two still sealed). I kind of think that Halo gets their liquids mixed for optimum in their own equipment, why it works in similar, might not in others?
YMMV

 

[GoodNews!]

Halo's been an iffy brand for me. The Cafe Cocoa was quite tasty in the vendor's sample CE4 - I even turned their VV battery up and down when they weren't looking to see if I could get it to taste bad, and it held up great. Tasted like charcoal in both my CE5 and Aspire on 3.3V's. The Tiki Juice sample in store tasted like incense smoke or something such like you'd smell burning at a beach bar - I sort of liked it actually, I keep thinking "I want to taste that again, it's unique." Tribecca and Torque were better tobaccos than lesser brands, but nothing I'd personally vape (just a preference, nothing tasted 'wrong' with the juice.) I'd like to try a few more tobaccos by them, to see if they've expanded on the note they hit with the Torque. And a few more chocolates, the Cafe Cocoa has a base that I think hits the right vibe.

Any time I try Halo in a store sample, it tastes fairly standard. You can stand there and say "This is a standard quality juice. Nothing special, nothing wrong." When I get home, it's though Halo turns to Devil Horns and ruins any device I put the brand in. Can't explain it for the life of me. The blonde 18-year-old bimbos that work at the local vape shop can't be doing anything good to a CE4 that I'm not doing myself. They don't even have a clue about anything, Bimbo #1 just sold me a Aro tank telling me it's a Kanger, and myself being a bigger bimbo, I didn't look at the receipt til I got home!

Weird juice stories.

For me, I truly accept that juices should expose different notes when in different devices, that's what variety in vaping is all about. But Halo's juices just have destroyed my coils, first hit. Strangest stuff.

 

[serenity21899]

Halo Belgian Cocoa is proving to be the most difficult juice I have dealt with to date. If definitely does not play well with carto tanks. If I had the time to fuss with my RBA's I probably would get different results.

My solution, since I'm not fond of how it tastes either, was to mix in a lighter chocolate vape, and it works a bit better now for me.

 

[GoodNews!]

One thing I'm going to ask my vendor about is the exact device, ohm's, and any potential distilled water or extra PG they may use in their samples. The Cafe Cocoa was a pretty darn good treat in their sample CE4. I'd have described it as a warm hot cocoa that was made with a mixture between milk chocolate powder and dark chocolate powder. Was slightly darker in tone than what one would expect with a Cafe Cocoa, but it was the best juice in the store, I probably took about 10 hits of it, they had to pry it out of my hands. I was so excited to go home and vape it and watch Lord Of The Rings (I would have classified it as a juice worthy of such a watch!)

Sadly, one does not simply walk into a shop, buy Halo, and have anything work out right.

 

[Spydro]

Just for S&G I dug out some Halo Cafe Mocha. I didn't open the sealed 30ml I have, this is just the tail end 3ml of the last 30ml bottle from maybe 2-3 months ago. Put some in a Protank II with a 2.5ohm coil, put it on my VV/VW set at 3.7V to not cook it and gave it a run. Exactly as I remember it from the last time... PURE YUCK! My DIY Mocha works stand alone or mixed with Keoke Coffee, even cooked at high wattage. Just to give the CM it's last try... I cut it with my Bavrian Cream ADV that is delicious at about 60% BC and 40% CM. Shook the bj out of the tank, and tried it again. I is still yuck, overpowers the BC into oblivian. OK, another Protank with some CM cut with my ADV Irish Cream at about 80% IC to 20% CM. Voltage down to 3.2 and it is vapeable, barely as it still over powers. Halo's CM is just not a flavor for me. I'm thinking if I use CM again at all it will be as a small X drop per batch additive to other flavors. I don't see ever vaping it straight up again.

 

[GoodNews!]

Did it kind of taste like burnt monkey ....? I had both Halo's Cafe Cocoa and a Coffee & Cream juice by another well known vendor give me the same burnt monkey .... flavor, yet I know the Halo juice tastes great in "real life" on a device that somehow can handle it. I'm really trying to seek out the absolute highest ohm coils I can to see if they'll handle the dark juice. So far, I know that 2.8 can't, just tried that on the Aro Tank. 3.0 or 3.2, if available anywhere for any device, may somehow do the trick. Some CE4/CE5 types actually seem to have super-high resistance coils like that, and I'd bet anything that this is what my vendor uses for their samples.

It's strange, I went into the shop other day, asked them exactly what ohm rating they use for the samples, and the worker there literally told me to my face that she didn't want to check and see, even though many of them have numbers right on the side of the head and that they also had an ohm checker right there beside the samples. She literally told me to my face she didn't want to check, and there wasn't even anyone in the shop. It was like they wanted my juice to burn up in lower resistance coils so that I had to come back and buy more coils and juice. Shocking behavior. My mouth about dropped to the floor.

But I got my say in. The same employee sold me the Aro tank telling me clearly that it was a new Kanger tank that had 3.0ohm coils (when they were simply all rated at 2.6-2.8, Smoktech heads at that) and when they refused a return, I explained false advertising and fraud laws very clearly to them, and told them I'd be contacting Kanger and other legal authorities letting them know about a vendor who was promoting non-Kanger products as Kanger to increase sales. They about ...... their panties, and the owner spread the word very quickly, as I called the other stores in the chain to do some undercover work, and they all made sure to explain the Aro as "specifically not a Kanger, but performs like one", word for word, even though they thought I was just some random customer. Before this, they were saying it was a Kanger.

Can't trust half the vendors out there, I tell ya. However, the issue didn't even get resolved, as the manager only agreed to let me switch it for a Kanger product since "that was my arguement" and wouldn't let me make the switch today because "they suddenly ran out of Kanger products." (Even though I was in the store the day before and they had about a billion.) So I filed a report with the BBB of my area.

 

[Criticalmass]

The reason I haven't dipped my toes in cartomizer tanks is truly the different language I'm seeing lol. If you do have any direct links saved up, even just a few would probably get me to the point I can order the right thing and try it out.

The utterly confusing thing is: I tested this juice in the shop on one of their sitting-there-for-days disposable CE4's, and it tasted fairly amazing. It was very obviously a creamy blend. When they weren't looking, I turned the voltage up and down on their mod to see if I could get it to burn to see if it'd compare with other results I've had with chocolate blends (they deserve it anyway, they're a very bad vendor), and amazingly, the stuff wouldn't burn. It kept tasting great, and that's why I bought it. Yet it works on nothing I have.

This may not be as uncommon as you think. I just had a french vanilla that was decent for the first week and a half turn completely bitter and burned tasting last night. I tried two different tanks and three heads. Finally I decided to try a couple different juices and they were fine.

Odd thing is the French Vanilla still smells the same, but something changed with the chemical compound and now it tastes burned when heated up no matter what.

 

[melly710]

Believe it or not but I still vape with the 801 penstyle that I started with years ago, I like it so why switch til I can't get the parts anymore? I like various chocolates from Vixen Vapor, Viking Vapor and HHV.

 

[GoodNews!]

This may not be as uncommon as you think. I just had a french vanilla that was decent for the first week and a half turn completely bitter and burned tasting last night. I tried two different tanks and three heads. Finally I decided to try a couple different juices and they were fine.

Odd thing is the French Vanilla still smells the same, but something changed with the chemical compound and now it tastes burned when heated up no matter what.

What's sucking for me is that this happens to me right out of a fresh bottle. It'll taste like something's incredibly wrong with it, and then I have to put contaminated juice back in the bottle (out of spares atm) and it'll just go on from there. Could be some sort of bizarre steeping issue, but the vendor told me that Halo pre-steeps everything (I really doubt they do - this vendor says anything to avoid sounding like something from their shop is actually bad, even though steeping is considered a staple step in the vaping industry) but even then, the very same juice in their own sample clearomizer was quite heavenly. It's a mystery.

But I do think they're using some sort of ohm range or brand that's different from what they actually sell - Halo might have ordered them to only use Halo clearomizers with Halo juices (which the local shop doesn't sell) and I've heard good things about Halo's technology. Who really knows.

 

[Asbestos4004]

But I do think they're using some sort of ohm range or brand that's different from what they actually sell - Halo might have ordered them to only use Halo clearomizers with Halo juices (which the local shop doesn't sell) and I've heard good things about Halo's technology. Who really knows.

you need help, dude....professional help. Earlier in this thread, you claimed to know everything there is to know about vaping...then you go on to try to figure out how to use a carto. Now Halo is sending special heads out to make their juice taste good and so vendors can sell you new heads. And you review? You're not fooling anybody here. You're no reviewer and you don't know jack squat about vaping. Get off your high horse and quit trashing reputable companies with your ill informed claims. Learn how to use your equipment or get new equipment that works. I don't blame the employee for blowing you off when you asked about ohms. If your half as annoying in person as you are on here, I wouldn't let you in the store.