What do you think about this?

[mrZoSo]

I know this isn't 100% GG related but since Imeo, and the majority of us GG users are concerned with safe vaping, I thought I would post this here(I'll move it if need be)
Do you think there is some truth behind it? Or is it more of the propaganda machine?
First e-cigarette study sends up health red flags

 

[gratefulbuddy]

Interesting that the link to view the "study" referenced in that article leads to a whole bunch of ANTZ propaganda (mostly "save the children" rhetoric) with zero scientific backing and misleading info.

EDIT: Not really interesting, just shameful

 

[towelie]

The study found vapor "can" damage the lungs down to the single cell capacity way down deep. No how or why.
The study used healthy non smokers for a control.

Propaganda.

 

[imeothanasis]

I didnt see any study, I didnt see any epiheremas, I only saw a person that say that vapor is going deep down to cells? Of course it goes deep down as smoke from analogs does. And what is the meaning of "deep down"? If we only say "down"? lol

The only I see is a silly person like many journalists in Greece saying nonsenses because that was what they were told to say. They leave only bad impressions, having in their hands just nothing.

 

[mrZoSo]

I agree with everyone here. Useless scare tactics and probably backed up by the big tobacco corporations.

 

[mrZoSo]

Here's another one, talking about "hidden" formaldehyde.
‘Hidden’ High Levels Of Cancer-Causing Formaldehyde Found in E-Cigarettes

 

[imeothanasis]

I just read it mr

These guys are totally stupid.

I am so angry when someone with so small knowledge makes a site on internet telling what ever he thinks but I am more angry when I see researches from "serious" scientists posted on internet.

formaldehyde is produced at a specific temperature. In fact, it starts produced after a temperature and it increases when temperature raise up. So its a matter of temperature, something I want to solve with VIR.

The guy that made this "serious" research, said that they detected much formaldehyde at 5 volts. With what wire? How much inhaling time? What resistance? Because if the wire is fat or the resistance is big then the temperature is low so no formaldehyde here.

They also said that they didnt detect formaldehyde at 3,3 volts? Are they sure? If I put a resistance of 0,3 ohm with a 0,18mm wire, formaldehyde will be big because temperature will be big. Bigger than a 0,3 wire at 2 ohm resistance at 5 volts.

Also, how good their wicking was? If the wicking is good then temperature cant rise.

These people are silly and better not pay any attention at all. If you want serious info, better ask Farsalinos.

 

[alexli]

I know this isn't 100% GG related but since Imeo, and the majority of us GG users are concerned with safe vaping, I thought I would post this here(I'll move it if need be)
Do you think there is some truth behind it? Or is it more of the propaganda machine?
First e-cigarette study sends up health red flags

How about New Mounting Evidence And Red Flags Of The Danger of Candy Eating Addiction? This is another hot topic with a catchy title. Business as usual. We people can see that. The study is not the first, and surely not the best and complete. Google Dr. Konstantinos Farsalinos

 

[imeothanasis]

what I like most is how serious these people are when they talk, especially without giving any evidence. The style of just making impressions belongs to idiots

 

[mrZoSo]

I just read it mr

These guys are totally stupid.

I am so angry when someone with so small knowledge makes a site on internet telling what ever he thinks but I am more angry when I see researches from "serious" scientists posted on internet.

formaldehyde is produced at a specific temperature. In fact, it starts produced after a temperature and it increases when temperature raise up. So its a matter of temperature, something I want to solve with VIR.

The guy that made this "serious" research, said that they detected much formaldehyde at 5 volts. With what wire? How much inhaling time? What resistance? Because if the wire is fat or the resistance is big then the temperature is low so no formaldehyde here.

They also said that they didnt detect formaldehyde at 3,3 volts? Are they sure? If I put a resistance of 0,3 ohm with a 0,18mm wire, formaldehyde will be big because temperature will be big. Bigger than a 0,3 wire at 2 ohm resistance at 5 volts.

Also, how good their wicking was? If the wicking is good then temperature cant rise.

These people are silly and better not pay any attention at all. If you want serious info, better ask Farsalinos.

Exactly!! They tend to omit too many details for proper explanation or proof. Was it done like this on purpose, as in, "paid for by big tobacco"? Probably.
WE notice more about the details left out, but the average user or new user is not going to know anything about them, so they get scared right a way! That pisses me off too!
The only thing that is 'somewhat' defined, is the use of PG. But again, no details! Like how much, and how much flavor was mixed with it, the grade of the PG, etc., etc.
Just more scare tactics!!

 

[Harley]

Where are all these hate groups that are trying to control Big Tobacco ??? It is a well known fact that smoking kills but I don't hear anything about shutting big tobacco down !! I have been vaping over 7 years, I feel great, I can breath again and I don't stink !!!

First they complained that the devices were dangerous, Then it was the batteries, Now it's the candied flavored juices.. I like candy flavored
Stuff I'm an adult but the know it alls claim oh those flavors HAVE to be targeting kids !!! I call BULLSH--

 

[Sad Society]

Here's another one, talking about "hidden" formaldehyde.
‘Hidden’ High Levels Of Cancer-Causing Formaldehyde Found in E-Cigarettes

The link mrZoSo posted was in my FB timeline this morning and right below that was another article link saying something like "Study show ecigs are safer than traditional cigarettes."
I found the link: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-american-heart-association-says-vaping-is-safer-than-smoking

 

[mrZoSo]

LOL,, Found a good 'rebuttal' on the article I linked to the other day!! Great Stuff!
The deception of measuring formaldehyde in e-cigarette aerosol: the difference between laboratory measurements and true exposure

And an update to that one as well.
Verified: formaldehyde levels found in the NEJM study were associated with dry puff conditions. An update

 

[imeothanasis]

I wanted to see a "scientist" puffing dry

 

[mrZoSo]

LOL,,, yeah really!!!