What do you want to see in the MVP 3.0

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I agree with the recessed 510. A lot of people don't use ego threads and would like to conserve the extra height. They could include an adapter.

Agreed when I think about it..as long as you have a 510/eGo adapter you can put eGo devices on a flat top rig, I put one on my FT bolt and even though it sticks up just a bit because the 510 isn't truly "recessed" it works
 

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Good point. Mine sits flat as well and I never noticed the button press problem people were talking about. Must be the V2.1?
I noticed a few people are asking for a lighter press on the button - I'm assuming you've got older MVP2 since on mine (energy series) the button seems fine - it also sits flat (no wobble) since the output button is flush to the bottom of the MVP now - kinda wish pbusardo would update his review :)
 

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Good point. Mine sits flat as well and I never noticed the button press problem people were talking about. Must be the V2.1?

Yeah - they must've done a silent revision after pbursado's review - I like the fact that Innokin seems to take notice of what the reviewers are saying and make adjustments accordingly - they really are top of the pile of the Chinese manufacturers I think - shame they don't tell their customers and reviewers about any changes though.
 

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I seriously don't understand why people want to ditch eGo threading. They are superior in my mind. Even with an adapter, why would I want to take my Mini Protank 2, which natively transfers it's stress points to a much larger surface area, like an eGo cone, and then transfer that stress to a 510 male stem?

I wish more tank manufacturers would provide native eGo support instead of the whole 510 with "beauty ring" option. It's dumb.

Take the Nautilus for instance. A 5 ML glass and metal tank sitting on that narrow ego stem. They could have native Ego Threaded base (like the mini PT does) and give the nautilus much better support. I already know of people who had issues with airflow with their PT2's that user their Mini PT base on their PT2 and it works much better without the need for a beauty ring.

I just don't get it?
 

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Well, if you used a full-size ProTank you'd want to get rid of the eGo cone threading so you didn't have to use a pointless beauty ring :)

Same with the RBAs like the KFL+ cone threading simply makes the device bigger for no good reason - after all, you can always get a cheap adapter if you want to use cone threading - heck, they could even include one in the MVP package.
 

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Well, if you used a full-size ProTank you'd want to get rid of the eGo cone threading so you didn't have to use a pointless beauty ring :)

Same with the RBAs like the KFL+ cone threading simply makes the device bigger for no good reason - after all, you can always get a cheap adapter if you want to use cone threading - heck, they could even include one in the MVP package.

That's not true. There is MUCH more stress on a 510 connector than an eGo connector due to the small size of the eGo connector. The adapter does nothing but transfer the stress from the eGo cone threads on the adapter to the 510 threads on the adapter.

When you have a tank like the Nautilus, you are talking about a 5mL tank with all that glass and metal. That is a lot of stress to put on the little 510 threads. eGo cone threads are much more sturdy to handle the larger tanks we are seeing today. Remember 510's were developed for little carto's not 5ML glass and steel monstrocities.

Ironically, the tanks that have the LEAST need for eGo cone threading are the ones they are used on the most, like the Mini Protanks, The CE4's, Evod's, Iclear 15's.

As the tanks get bigger, they move to the smaller diameter connector. It makes ZERO sense in an engineering aspect.
 
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Providing the connector is well made it's not an issue - how many ProVari owners do you hear talking about their KFLs snapping off?

Exactly.....But then again we are not talking about a sub hundred dollar device with the ProVari?

If I want to keep costs down, then eGo threading allows me to use less expensive materials and thus keep costs down. Why would I want to maintain a standard that requires me to use higher quality materials and add cost to the device?

What is perplexing is that only the SMALLEST tanks are using eGo threading. This makes no sense. If I were making a larger tank like the Nautilus, I would engineer it to use Ego cone threading natively and then provide an adapter to make it compatible with 510, not vice versa.
 

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Well, they're designing that Nautilus tank to fit on the widest range of popular mods - and you'll find dozens of them without eGo cone threading but none without a 510 (well, maybe the Zenesis stuff :))

And the small tanks use ego threading because they're specifically designed to work with eGo batteries - something the new toppers are moving away from.
 
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I seriously don't understand why people want to ditch eGo threading. They are superior in my mind. Even with an adapter, why would I want to take my Mini Protank 2, which natively transfers it's stress points to a much larger surface area, like an eGo cone, and then transfer that stress to a 510 male stem?

I wish more tank manufacturers would provide native eGo support instead of the whole 510 with "beauty ring" option. It's dumb.

Take the Nautilus for instance. A 5 ML glass and metal tank sitting on that narrow ego stem. They could have native Ego Threaded base (like the mini PT does) and give the nautilus much better support. I already know of people who had issues with airflow with their PT2's that user their Mini PT base on their PT2 and it works much better without the need for a beauty ring.

I just don't get it?


The mini protank 2 is 1.5 Ml capacity, not a lot. A 2600mah battery lasts a long time, a little over a day fro me (I vape a lot) Most of my tanks are 4.5 to 5 ml capacity and use 510 connectors. A flush mount 510 on the MVP would provide better support for the tanks and make the entire set up shorter. This may not be for everyone else but would work better for me. Then again how many others are using a $120 Russian, or a $99 Kayfun on a $40 MVP?

You asked "What do you want to see", this what I want to see.

Dan
 

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Good point. Mine sits flat as well and I never noticed the button press problem people were talking about. Must be the V2.1?

Yeah - they must've done a silent revision after pbursado's review - I like the fact that Innokin seems to take notice of what the reviewers are saying and make adjustments accordingly - they really are top of the pile of the Chinese manufacturers I think - shame they don't tell their customers and reviewers about any changes though.

The first few runs of the V2 still had the bottom button issue and then they fixed it. About a month later they improved the fire button. I'm sure there are still some on the shelves some where that are the older versions. It is surprising that they made no announcements of the improvements but encouraging that they were made. They may have been listening to the reviewers but I also know that they received many, many emails on these issues.

I have been on a personal campaign to encourage people to drop Innokin a quick E-mail regarding the 510/ego connection issue. Take a minute and drop them a note at support@innokin.com. The company has shown that they will listen so as users, we need to speak up!
 

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Then again how many others are using a $120 Russian, or a $99 Kayfun on a $40 MVP?

Lol! I will be :D Here in the UK, a genuine KFL+ is £67 ($110) and the cheapest ProVari you can buy (satin silver/red LED) is £160 ($262) - that's without batteries/charger etc. I'll be more than happy using my KFL/MVP together whilst I save up for several months to get the ProVari (or more likely, a Semovar).
 

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I love my MVP for an all around carry everywhere device. Keeping in mind the price range of the device I would say the only thing to reasonably expect to change would be: 1) Spring loaded center pin in the connector 2) Standard (18500 or 18650) replaceable battery (I'm OK with not including it, prefer to buy my own from trusted sources anyway).
 
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