What I'm missunderstanding about my vaper?

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I didn't get it cause there is no 510adapter thank God

There is a 510 adapter for the PX80 now and some come with it. I think you have to buy the mod only (not the kit) to get the adapter, but I could be wrong.

$31.75 Authentic Vaporesso Swag PX80 80W VW APV Box Mod - 5-80W / 1*18650 at FastTech - Free Shipping

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    I suppose Magnets would be strong Enough(?) to hold down a RTA or a decent sized Tank. I Dunno?
    From all the ones I have that have an available 510 option, they're good enough to hold a tank unless jolted really hard, like dropping the kit. Those magnets are quite a bit stronger than they would lead on.

    Also, unless the 510 adapter sits extremely loose in the mod, there wouldn't be enough room to flip it out - it would have to pop straight out to actually come out unless they're clipped in, like the Aegis Boost Pro. That has been dropped a few times and the top has popped out for both the pod and the RBA. Nothing broken though. I don't think a tank would fair that very well, unless it's protected like the Zenith or Zlide.

    In some cases, using the OXVA Velocity as an example, you have to screw in a short pole into the 510 to get enough leverage to pry it out. They're getting better with the adapters.
     
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    It's true tho the website dont mention about the voltage range of the px80 and that's weird....but then again say it uses axon chip...I don't know lol
    I'm sure it's regulated with the wattage and vice versa. Like you can't max out the voltage and the wattage, simply because it wouldn't let you. It's likely also dependent on the ohm reading.
     

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    I just saw on Reddit page 88days ago someone complaining the px80 loses power vaping at 20watts as the battery goes down from 90% battery and lower like it's not when it's empty or anything like that... and other people comment it doesn't have boost....
    I can't believe they launched a pod that has boost and the new swag doesn't but seems it's true...
     

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    I'm sure it's regulated with the wattage and vice versa. Like you can't max out the voltage and the wattage, simply because it wouldn't let you. It's likely also dependent on the ohm reading.

    I was also thinking probably it's some smart function and reads ohms and dpesnt let you increase to burn the coil but....
    I don't know man it's wired tho they don't mention on website the voltage range but only the wattage tho....
     

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    I suppose Magnets would be strong Enough(?) to hold down a RTA or a decent sized Tank. I Dunno?

    Anyway, hopefully @hittman will see the Alerts and swing in to Clarify this Voltage Issue.

    I know the PX80 has the Axon chip in it but it's either a version 1 or a bare bones version 2 since it doesn't have pulse or some of the other features that the other vaporesso mods have. I can't say for sure but I assume that it does not have boost. I honestly never gave it much thought before this conversation. I have three of them and love the .2 coils at 45 watts. I am wondering though is the 3.7v that the user is seeing happening while firing the mod? If you check battery voltage with no load and under load then they aren't going to be the same. If it shows 3.7v no matter the load then it must be something set in the chip to regulate the voltage.
     

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    I know the PX80 has the Axon chip in it but it's either a version 1 or a bare bones version 2 since it doesn't have pulse or some of the other features that the other vaporesso mods have. I can't say for sure but I assume that it does not have boost. I honestly never gave it much thought before this conversation. I have three of them and love the .2 coils at 45 watts. I am wondering though is the 3.7v that the user is seeing happening while firing the mod? If you check battery voltage with no load and under load then they aren't going to be the same. If it shows 3.7v no matter the load then it must be something set in the chip to regulate the voltage.

    Can u choose vv and adjust to let's say 7.5volts tho?
     

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    Can u choose vv and adjust to let's say 7.5volts tho?

    I doubt it. I honestly have never tried any of my px80's in VV mode since I don't use any mods in VV mode. My question about the voltage was simply asking if the user is seeing no load or under load voltage. I don't have one here with me at work but can play around with one tonight. I don't keep most mods in rotation for very long since I have review samples coming in fairly often.
     
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    I know the PX80 has the Axon chip in it but it's either a version 1 or a bare bones version 2 since it doesn't have pulse or some of the other features that the other vaporesso mods have. I can't say for sure but I assume that it does not have boost. I honestly never gave it much thought before this conversation. I have three of them and love the .2 coils at 45 watts. I am wondering though is the 3.7v that the user is seeing happening while firing the mod? If you check battery voltage with no load and under load then they aren't going to be the same. If it shows 3.7v no matter the load then it must be something set in the chip to regulate the voltage.

    The More I dive into this, the More I am Sure that this Mod Doesn't have Boost. Only Buck. And the Claimed Wattage Range is based on current Battery Level ^2 divided by the Ohm of the Coil.

    This is a Blurring of what Most consider to be a Mod's "Watts". When Most OEM's market a Mod's Watts, they are say'n what the Mod can Produce (at any Working Battery Level). But what I think Vaporesso is doing is giving the User the Theoretical based on Ohms Law.

    Perhaps a Tad Deceptive.

    Can u choose vv and adjust to let's say 7.5volts tho?

    I Don't think so.

    • Voltage range: 0-4V
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    All signs point to no boost. Axon chip doesn't matter. It could be a different axon chip than others used, they just stamp "Axon" on the chip and, voila, it's an Axon chip lol. IOW, marketing gimmick.

    Also, I could be wrong but I believe boost circuitry usually resides off the ECM, not on the ECM? But I'm no electronics expert, I just know what I've seen/read and I barely know that. :p
     
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    The More I dive into this, the More I am Sure that this Mod Doesn't have Boost. Only Buck. And the Claimed Wattage Range is based on current Battery Level ^2 divided by the Ohm of the Coil.

    This is a Blurring of what Most consider to be a Mod's "Watts". When Most OEM's market a Mod's Watts, they are say'n what the Mod can Produce (at any Working Battery Level). But what I think Vaporesso is doing is giving the User the Theoretical based on Ohms Law.

    Perhaps a Tad Deceptive.



    I Don't think so.

    • Voltage range: 0-4V
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    The vaporesso website don't mention voltage but this website u found say the truth...and according to what I saw people say on Reddit then yeah I am pretty sure now it doesn't have boost ...
    I was curious but now I am not :p
     
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    Then no boost, assuming that 4v spec is accurate, and I believe it probably is. And that doesn't account for voltage drop, which it appears the PX80 must have about a 0.4v drop minimum on that 0.3 ohm coil. If not voltage drop, then some sort of other inefficiency. Regardless, the mod doesn't appear to even get to 4.0v even on a battery with a 4.1-4.2v charge. This is the same with some no-boost Voopoo mods I have seen, in reality only about a 3.7-3.8v max mod.

    Need more than 45-48 watts? Use coil lower than 0.3 ohms.
     
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    Omg this puff counter supposed to count puffs per days of the week that's why it's seven numbers...I guess once u reset it starts to count for 24hours and changes ....I was thinking it might be this but it was inconsistent with the days and maybe it's cause I swap batteries...finally that mystery that was eating me from the inside is solved....now my life changed....I can die in peace now knowing I fully understand how my mod works
     

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    First off I don't believe the Swag PX 80 uses a boost circuit converter and have read it actually uses a PWM type of circuit, because it is in a low range you can't really notice it. Even though it doesn't have boost the coils provided for it's tank don't need it. I think the thought of a 510 connector was a complete after thought after the kit was fully completed. I would still like to know if the 3.7v is on a load while firing the device.
     
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