What Is Needed Besides Nicotine?

[hvac999]

What is REALLY needed besides nicotine? After doing some research and looking at You Tube I am NOT sure it is WTA. I have also seen where 5-HTP and L-Tyrosine may help. There is something more missing. A good throat hit is essential, at least to me, but there is MORE missing. I casually tried to stop analogs in 2010 with, not surprisingly, little success. I recently stopped analogs 12/26 and there is something I can not put my finger on. I know there is an ongoing debate about this but what was the outcome. I have stopped prescribed Morphine, in high doses, and other strong prescribed drugs and NOTHING even comes close to stopping analogs. Has there been ANY definite answer agreed to? I am sure VERY MANY people want to know.

 

[tazuo]

Why u are not sure is wta?
Did you tried WTA ?
At least i hope WTA work cause it is my last resource.
Actually i like vaping good taste good hit but bad satisfaction this is the point.
After vaping and also not to much nicotine compared to other's people my anxiety increase and it increase a lot.
This never happened with analogs wich on the contrary reduce my anxiety level...

I really don't know what is in analogs but maybe we should start to complaint tobacco industry at least they should provide a solution for people whant quit smoking...

I dream a nerd in US instead of killing innocent young peoples in the school one day wake up and decide to kill all the powerful ceo of tobacco industry this is what they deserve...
In the past i used coca(not cocacola...) for a period and let me tell you was thousand time easer to quit with coca... instead of smoke.
I belive also Big Pharma don't want help people really quit with smoke cause they would lose a lot of costumers with smoke related illness.

It is a shame !!!

If one day i will find a powerfull ceo of big tobacco industry in front of me i'll start to punch him in the face as an UFC fighter and you will read the news in the newspaper !!!
They are thousand time worst than heavy drugs dealers trust me !!!

I really pray WTA juice really work for me i would make an extra donation to Aroma if it will work !!!

 

[hvac999]

Have you tried WTA? If so, what was your experience? Through my fast track searching of WTA results I have seen everything from "this is the answer" to "I can't tell any difference". So, the results of WTA are determined by the individual vapor. If you are one of the unfortunate people that it has no effect on the search will continue for the "missing link". Again, PLEASE inform me of the results of WTA, no doubt from Aroma Ejuice Manufacturer of WTA Whole Tobacco Alkaloid Eliquid for $15.

 

[tazuo]

I never trid WTA i couldn't already order the juice i'm still waiting before going to analogs but every day become much difficult.
I'm feeling really bad with high anxiety i don't find only nicotine satisfy me actually my anxiety increas every puff i use nicotine just because of the hit

 

[hvac999]

Please let me know how it works out. We can pass on the news either way for more people to know. I may base my purchase on your results.

 

[idahohermit]

WTA absolutely works for some people. I tried to quit with an ecig for six or eight months. From the very first puff I told everyone "there's something missing". Once I got hold of some WTA, I was done with analogs. I have two different anxiety disorders. Just nicotine sent my anxiety through the roof. WTA balances the stimulating effect of nicotine with the calming effects of MOAIs. I know I never would have been able to quit without it. I just celebrated my one year anniversary on Jan. 6th (WOOT!!!). Yes, it's expensive, but I'm still only spending half of what analogs cost (juice + hardware). Please, at least try it. Couldn't hurt.

 

[Stubby]

Another option is to try Swedish snus. Many of us, including myself, find it more satisfying they even WTA. Perhaps if WTA had been around when I started back in 09 it would have been different but I prefer snus to WTA. Admittedly it could be because I have been using it for over 3 1/2 years and have gotten very contented with it. Whatever the case may be it's worth a try. It's also likely cheaper then WTA. I't not sure what the taxes on smokeless tobacco is in NC but I would guess they are pretty low.

 

[hvac999]

Though, according to my wife, I have spent WAY too much money getting started vaping. I broke down and ordered WTA, I must say, against my better judgment, from what I have researched. I have "it all" riding on these couple of reports. I keep telling my wife "was is it worth" for me to stop after 35 yrs. of smoking analogs. I think my wife would be against SNUS because it is a tobacco product. Granted WTA is too but we can keep that between us.

 

[hvac999]

Please see the following e-cigarette forum post about WTA from 2009. Look at the poster of that thread and read this paragraph from Aroma Ejuices' cover page.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/dvap/403-its-not-just-nicotine-next.html
Welcome to Aroma Ejuice. We are assuming you came to our site to learn more about our new line of eliquid. This ejuice is also known as "Whole Tobacco Alkaloid" or WTA. One of the developers, known as Dvap, coined the term WTA. This project has been a long endeavor during the last few years. Some of the brightest people in the industry have put forth effort to help produce a very unique ejuice that few have ever experienced. We worked with a pioneer who is widely known and quoted in the vaping community. Without his help, knowledge and support, we would not be able to bring such a unique ejuice to the vaping community.

 

[jazon1]

personally i had no problem quitting smoking after 20+ years once i got a good e-cig capable of producing alot of hot vapor, i had tried a few of the smaller e-cigs like the BLU and some Joye's and couldn't quit smoking on them until i got a more powerful system,it did take a little restraint for awhile to keep from smoking some analogs here and there after all these dont have all the chemicals in them that analogs do but thats kind of the point of them
ether way good luck with your quitting, anything should be better then analogs for you

 

[hvac999]

I ordered, and tried, WTA. I do not think this is the "bridge" to non-smoking. I truly believe that time, along with a proper state of mind, IS the answer. It has been a little over 3 wks for me and I AM there. I no longer "need" an analog in my life. Proper nic levels make a big difference. 24mg. was not enough for me but 36mg IS. If 24mg were the maximum level I could get I would have a problem.I had to convince myself that nic from analogs is EXTREMELY bad for me. This is after 35 yrs of smoking.

 

[MorpheusPA]

I had the same issue. WTA certainly helped, but it wasn't a cure-all. I found myself occasionally snitching an analog every now and again for a while.

That did slowly come to an end. Whatever I was addicted to in the cigs finally faded out and just the nicotine was enough. At this point, I no longer use the WTA liquids.

 

[jfalbanese]

would like to hear more from people using 0 nic. my next step down is to 6MG in 2 weeks. after that will be looking for the 0 nic flavor that gives the best effect.

 

[hvac999]

You are doing it the "good" way but what will you do when you get to 0mg, stop? Will you continue to vape 0mg?

 

[renegade13]

i am having the same problem... i really enjoy vaping, but there is always that feeling of anxiety after a day without a real cig. i dunno what to do at this point.i guess i gotta try the wta

 

[hvac999]

WTA may help you but be aware that a lot of people got no effect. Really, it only gets better with time. Even if WTA works, you will still have to detox all of the different additives that analogs contain. It's tough but you can do it. If I could after 35 yrs of smoking, you can.

 

[jfalbanese]

i'm looking to stop vaping completely. and keep the hardware for when temptation takes a battering ram to me.

 

[Mobscenez]

Yea would like to know too

 

[The Rebel]

There is certainly a period of detox when you quit smoking. Mine lasted a good 10 days before the fog started to lift. But like other forum members, I've found Swedish snus has helped me drop the analogs for good. Vaping never did it completely for me. Always felt something was missing. Vaped 24mg at 4.7v or higher all day and still needed to sneak a few analogs to make it work. Made a commited effort when I was diagnosed as borderline asthmatic. Got the script for Wellbutrin to help ease the withdraw symptoms, bought the nicotine gum to get me started, and bought some Swedish snus to make the bad times easier. The snus gives me the calming effect of smoking without the chemicals and I've been smoke free for over three weeks now for the first time in thirty years. Word of advice, if you want to try snus, stay away from the American version. Totally different manufacturing process which makes it much worse for you than Swedish snus. Plus the American version has a lot lower nicotine content than Swedish so it doesn't help very much. Do some research and reading. Plenty of studies and articles on the benefits of Swedish snus as a smoking alternative. I don't plan on using nicotine forever, but I won't be getting it from an analog ever again. And I'm done throwing money away chasing the ultimate vape as well.