addictive nicotine liquid

[hyperdeficit]

I am somebody who has difficulty quitting smoking analogs. I rotate between e cigs and analogs when I am stressed and I have difficulty stopping analogs all together. dont believe my banner down there.

I have stopped and started analogs several times in the period ive had e cigs. I have no clue how much analogs ive avoided spent or saved. I have not changed my banner because im too lazy to do it, and it is a reminder of what my smoking profile COULD be.

I suddenly realized that this might be due to the fact that low nicotine has too much nicotine to ween a person off nicotine all together.

Think about it this way. on most sites low is around eleven mgs of nicotine. with medium following closely around 14 and high leading at about 18.

they recomend 11 mgs for light smokers but would say that heavy smokers should do 18 mg? THATS ONLY A 7 MG Difference! if you halfed the low it would have 5.5 mgs of nicotine. thats equvilent to two or three pieces of nicorette. according to wikipedia a cigarette has 1 mg of nicotine, thats five cigarettes. (essentially)

I believe that a reason there is no lower nicotine level in juice is that... suppliers want their customers to keep buying juice. E cigs are a big business. it might not be for small time suppliers but for manufacturers that IS their business.

Sure some people use the no nic liquid. but they usually have a bottle of liquid with nicotine somewhere handy.

I think that if a manufacterer could come up with a weaker juice (about 3 or 4 mgs) they would be a pioneer to this current e cig industry. They would be the first one to come up with a "5 step program" to quit cigarrettes. This would possibly make the image of nicotine liquid more likeable to ignorant FDA agents.

Let me say that I love vaping and am not trying to slam users, suppliers, or manufacturers. It is simply a thought.

Lemme know what you think. if you agree or disagree. just please keep it polite and possibly in the range of intellectual debate

Cheers

 

[jboze]

While I agree with you in theory, the general consensus is that the absorption rate of nicotine in e-cigs is much much lower than in a traditional cigarette. There are several reasons for this, just search around the board and you'll find lots of info.

So in reality, you're probably still craving analogs due to both the lower absorption rate and the lack of 4,000 other chemicals. The drop from a low nic e-liquid to 0mg liquid probably isn't as drastic as you think.

 

[PatriciafromCO]

There is 8mg and 6mg level I tried them both when I purchased my 51 e cig 3 months ago... As much as I thought I was addicted to anlogs I must of not been, I can only think that the chemicals in analogs affected me more then the nicotine for how crazy intense the addiction on analogs felt when I was smoking .. I vape less now then I did the first 2 months of vaping, gone several times with out vaping leaving my e cig at home .. What ever the case vaping nicotine is not the same reaction on my sense of well being as smoking analogs.. With analogs trying to cut back was unreachable,, cutting vaping,, doing without vaping,, it's no biggy....

Everyone is going to be different, we are all wired differently... I often wondered vaping and still keeping the body fed with the chemicals in analog makes a difference in the out come...

 

[VaporPhreak]

Try Nuvape.com Their low is 6mg. And you can go lower by cutting it with either pure pg or 0 nic juice. THats my plan, maybe it will work for you too. Best of Luck!

 

[Ridewithme38]

The General Belief on this board is when vaping you absorb about 10% of the nicotine you do with a cigarette

So if you Vape 24mg/ml and 5ml's a day...thats only about 12mg of Nicotine or as you Wikapedia article stated about 12 Cigarettes....

Your not having trouble because of TOO High Nicotine Content you're have trouble because of too LOW nicotine content

Now the Problem is the Availability also...Some of us smoke 2-3 packs a day (3 packs = 60mg of Nicotine) and the highest available Nic juice is only 48mg/ml(4.8mg absorbed)...So you can't really reach your old level of nicotine intake no matter what

To get to the 60mg of nicotine you'd need you'd need to vape 12.5ml of 48mg Juice!

 

[Ryle]

If you want lower nicotine levels.. why not just cut your juice? That's the joy of PV's.. you can create your own 5step program.. or 10steps.. or even 50 steps... you get to choose and you can control it. There's no need for suppliers to make 3mg juice.. just take a bottle of 11mg and a bottle of pure pg and cut it 2parts pg 1 part 11mg juice.. that'll give you 3.66mg (assuming my math is correct) with the proper calculations you can create whatever mg you want to make.

 

[KarateLobster]

I'm in, roughly, the same boat as PatriciafromCO. I'm starting to think that it may not be the nicotine, so much, as some of the other chems in analogs that had me hooked (obviously i can't speak for everyone else). I used to have an analog within 1/2 to an hour of waking in the morning. I've gone at least three hours now without having anything, and I'm not having a "nic fit" in the slightest. When I tried to quit analogs before I would be going absolutely bananas if I went longer than an hour.

How are e-cigs helping me then? I don't really know. Partly because of the nic, but maybe also because I can continue to "smoke" without actually smoking.

 

[Nestran]

Wow, could you imagine if the whole nicotine addiction thing was just a big scam and it's actually something added to tobacco that is super addictive? No wonder the FDA is all over the ecig, it would mean the public figuring it out.

Nicotine is addictive but HOW addictive is it? Coffee maybe?

Nestran

 

[dave8944]

I had the same problem with 24mg juice, but since I switched to 36mg juice there is no problem. I still smoke 3 analogs a day because I bought like 10 cartons before the new tax went into effect, which is roughly the same time I started vaping. I really don't crave any analogs now. Sure there are additives in some cigarettes, but not all. Remember the Winston no-additive campaign? Additives are definatly not the reason I had cravings for analogs because I don't have them if I get enough nicotine in my system.

 

[OneWizer]

I am somebody who has difficulty quitting smoking analogs. I rotate between e cigs and analogs when I am stressed and I have difficulty stopping analogs all together.

Congratulations on starting - not everyone picks up an e-cig and never touches an analog again. There are many factors involved. Did you know if you started smoking as a teenager you actually re-wired the receptors in your brain (chemically) to need nicotine? 'S Truth! That's the mechanism that Chantix attacks, it blocks nicotine absorption by attaching to those receptors. Early cigarette starters can have a harder time of it, and why it is important to keep kids from going down that road.

I've been fogging since April, took a couple months to find a decent PV (bless the 510!) and get serious, and yes, I still pick up an analog 3 or 4 times a day. Went 3 days without one, but just one time. So that's down from pack - pack and half/day. Seriously good progress for me! I'm thrilled, and you should be too. Hang in there.

A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

All the best!

 

[ckc]

It took me 6 weeks to finally get rid of those final 5 a day analogues,i was a 2 pack a day smoker.

How? I upped my juice to 30mg. Now theres no craving.

 

[SantanzChild]

Been about two weeks for me so far. Have been on the 510 for 3 or 4 days. Havnt totaly stopped smoking nor did I think I would. But I have unintentionally cut my self down to about 6 a day. You know the ones.

Get up smoke (6 aday instead of 5 cause I usually need two right here)
breakfast smoke
lunch smoke
dinner smoke
prebed smoke

 

[Vapinginmyboots]

Ive got a paradox here. Ive progressed from 2+ packs a day for 10+ years, quit smoking and went fully to vaping 36mg no cigs 2 months ago, switched to 24mg or lower 1 month ago, now Im actually getting tired of PVs, something I never thought would happen. Ill never smoke an analog again, never, as I hate even the thought of smoking one. I may either cut down to 10mg or less or quit vaping altogether and feel even better soon now thats progress!

 

[Huffin & Puffin]

"I am somebody who has difficulty quitting smoking analogs. I rotate between e cigs and analogs when I am stressed and I have difficulty stopping analogs all together."

I was a heavy Camel smoker.

My tombstone was going to read,, "I enjoyed every one of them"

I love everything, the act of smoking, the taste, and the nicotine addiction.

I recently just faced the facts and did a web search "Nicotine Addict" and ended up on this site.

I ordered my gear from Drew and have not smoked an analog since.

I just fed the addiction right out of the gate with 24 mg.

I was slammin thosed things.... 5 per day.

It was a learning curve.
1. How to get a good vape hit.. puff inhale, puff inhale, puff inhale, puff inale, is what got me too the satisfaction level.
2. Keep my four batts maxed out with a charge, and I soon learned if it was a weak cart or batt.
3. I have a crap load of carts handy, Camel, 555, Coffee & Ruyan.

After about 5 days the anologs tasted nasty and didnt give the same punch as the vape.

My wife went through the same thing as you. She listened to me me and started changing up carts until she found "the one."

Her intake is starting to drop while mine is the same. I dont mind as I am addict plain and simple.

I am satisfied, no joansing, I have my breath back, and feel great.

The best move I made was calling Drew at Nhale, telling him how my addiction ran, and just asking him to get me up and running.

Drew listened, advised, and nailed the best way to feed my addiction and get me off analogs.

40 years of analogs stopped dead in its tracks on Jully 7th.

Thank god I found this site.

Don't give up!

 

[Hangtime]

When I got my 1st e-cig I never lit another cig. I didn't go thru any nic widthdraw but I did get pretty sick a few days into it while at work. I was able to keep working but man I felt like sh*t. IMHO I think it was widthdraw/detox from the lack of chemicals in the tobacco. It is funny how I can vape all night and weekend with diff levels of nicotine then go to work and not touch my PV until break time, I get up at 4am and break is at 9am. I dont even need it, it is out of habit and just plain old enjoyment.

 

[motorcity57]

vaping is a new technology, so we learn more every day. check out the modders sub-forum, you will see all sorts of new tricks. maybe someone will come up with a 10 or 12 step plan like AA. i was gonna say you might even want to do so. but i just remembered what you said about your quit meter, haha to lazy. sounds like me, i was to lazy to even make a quit meter.

the suggestions about lowering nic by cutting with PG or VG, you will be losing some flavor. a better suggestion is what i am doing and lots more fun, which is mix your own juice, that allows you to mix not only flavor but also any nic level that you want. there is a table of measurements somewhere here that will help you with the numbers. hope i could help, and good luck.

 

[SheerLuckHolmes]

hyperdeficit said, "I believe that a reason there is no lower nicotine level in juice is that... suppliers want their customers to keep buying juice. E cigs are a big business. it might not be for small time suppliers but for manufacturers that IS their business."

Oh course business' wants return customers!!!! That's why they are in business. Doesn't matter if they are into e-cigs or running a wieghtlifting gym, a business is open to the public to get you to spend money with them.

I am not trying to be disrespectful, but your comment sounded like it was a bad thing or as if there is something underhanded going on. Yes, we are beat around the head everyday with tales of the tobacco industry adding things, wall street taking stimulus money and handing it out as bonuses, because the news media wants you to spend your money buying their papers or getting higher advertising fees with higher ratings.

But try to look at the positive side. Someone in the e-cig business could be there to make a living from providing a safer product.

Buyer beware... do your research, know what you want and spend your money where you feel you are getting the best value for what you, as a free American, choose to do.

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

Most of us who took up vaping did so for one or more of the following three* reasons:

1. As a healthier alternative to smoking analogs
2. To save money (well maybe, in the long run)
3. We love gadgets

Not, however, to overcome our nicotine addiction. That is not the stated purpose of e-cigs ... and it probably is not that effective for such a purpose. [Although some are finding that they are lowering their nicotine level, especially if they are using one of the high-voltage fat boys (as I call them), e.g., my Prodigy.]

* Once we get into vaping, we add the fourth (and most powerful) reason: It tastes so good and is so much fun!