What is the role of ceramic in CCELL coils?

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There is still a coil the ceramic serves as a wick, the cotton (I'm guessing) helps prevent flooding. It's an interesting idea but from my experience the ceramic wick produces a very dry vapor and just doesn't taste as good as cotton or rayon. Vaperesso uses it due to improved coil life and ceramic can be dry fired without being damaged.
 

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Ceramic sounds to me like stone/rock... How can it absorb juice?
it is porous ceramic it has channels running through it that wick up juice...there is no wick that delivers flavor as well as porous ceramic....cotton and even ss mesh pale beside porous ceramic's ability to deliver great flavor.
 

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From the manufacturers website:

Q) Does the CCELL contain any cotton at all?

A) The CCELL heating element is completely wickless. But there is a piece of organic cotton around outside of the ceramic, but not against the heating wire. It acts as a gasket to protect the ceramic and ensure a tight seal between the ceramic and the metal shell and prevent leakage. The heating process is happened within the ceramic cylinder.

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it is porous ceramic it has channels running through it that wick up juice...there is no wick that delivers flavor as well as porous ceramic....cotton and even ss mesh pale beside porous ceramic's ability to deliver great flavor.

It's a matter of opinion certainly, but for manufactured drop-in coils or replacement atomizers, I would agree that the ceramic likely provides the best flavor.

I think when you use RTA's and build your own coils then JOC provides a tastier vape, but for drop-in's from a factory then I agree that ceramic can provide some of the best flavor.
 
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I have some CCells and I like them okay for flavor. I don't think they're the greatest coil of all time, I don't think they are the worst (and pretty far from the worst) but I don't think they can just be dry burned and reused (I stand ready to be corrected on that).

IDK I'm not fervent about the flavor, but everyone's different. I think it's a nice, solid coil and whatnot, it's just not up there with my all time favorites. I believe it is possible they MAY be rebuildable, but I'm also not entirely certain about that, either. I haven't used them for long enough to really start thinking about that and etc. If they can be rebuilt, I'm sure you can find a YouTube video on the subject and etc.

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I have some CCells and I like them okay for flavor. I don't think they're the greatest coil of all time, I don't think they are the worst (and pretty far from the worst) but I don't think they can just be dry burned and reused (I stand ready to be corrected on that).

IDK I'm not fervent about the flavor, but everyone's different. I think it's a nice, solid coil and whatnot, it's just not up there with my all time favorites. I believe it is possible they MAY be rebuildable, but I'm also not entirely certain about that, either. I haven't used them for long enough to really start thinking about that and etc. If they can be rebuilt, I'm sure you can find a YouTube video on the subject and etc.

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They can't be rebuilt, they certainly are not intended to be and I'm sure if anyone tried it would likely degrade the quality.

A general comment about ceramic.. my son vapes at a higher wattage and was swearing by the ceramic coils that wismec put out for the reaux tank.. the flavor was the .... according to him.

I vaped off it once at his insistence and I have to admit it was the most flavorful drop-in vape I'd ever had..

Now, he was using that at 55 watts or so if I remember correctly, which is not either your or my style of vaping, but it is perhaps the ceramic doesn't shine unless or until you add a little wattage to it I don't know, but i do know that was some very nice flavor..

If they had made those coils for the wattage range I vape in I most certainly would have opened my purse strings to have a better drop-in but they didn't so i didn't.. lol..

But that experience did sell me on ceramic.. you know I build my own coils so i know what flavor can be..
 
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It's a matter of opinion certainly, but for manufactured drop-in coils or replacement atomizers, I would agree that the ceramic likely provides the best flavor.

I think when you use RTA's and build your own coils then JOC provides a tastier vape, but for drop-in's from a factory then I agree that ceramic can provide some of the best flavor.
never vaped any drop in ceramic wicks..I vaped the fc-2000 in gennys.
 

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I'm confused. The conclusion is that the ceramic acts as both wick and heating element?
Pretty much all elements absorb/trap, but I believe that ceramic's thermal and electrical properties lend themselves in certain vape setups. The material is an excellent electrical insulator and absorbs heat quickly/uniformly and reflects heat in like manner (ceramic make up, purity and porosity are other important factors).
re: Material Properties | Ceramic Packages | Products | KYOCERA
 

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*sigh*...

Here goes... the ceramic is porous, and via cohesion, the liquid is "pulled" to the coil. There's a layer of cotton outside the ceramic that's there to "suck" the liquid into the cartridge (and control it's flow).

Think of the ceramic as a very hard sponge. It's very heat resistant, and isn't suppose to gum up as fast as a fiber wick does.. (I didn't find a huge difference to be honest, but how much sweetener in your liquid will be the main factor for any wick gumming up).

Vaperasso cartridge coils have been tested pretty well and the ceramic is quite stable (will not crumble easily) with proper usage.

So these are constructed in the factory as per the ceramic is build onto the coil (so the coil's side is slightly embedded into the ceramic) so that the liquid cohesion is assured.

I've used them for a while, took them apart and rebuild them (with only cotton) many many times (see my blog where I have instructions on how to rebuild them).
 

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I just dissected my CCELL coil. There was a wire about 7-8 centimeters. If this is the wire of the coil, shouldn't it be much longer?

That is the coil...

Make sure that when you take one apart, you are breaking some of the ceramic into a very fine dust, that you are careful to not breath in the ceramic particles, do it with it being wet, and wash everything around.

And if you've never built coils, you'll know that coils can vary in length quite a lot. It's all about the gauge of the wire and what it's made from.

You could have a a coil that's 3-4 cm, and another that's 15cm, it's all about the type of wire (again, gauge and type) and the resistance that one is aiming for.
 
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Just to elaborate on your question .. the coil is.. well, a coil, with is the heating element, basically the wire that's spun in a "coil" aka spring-like or other (note that there's other "coils" such as mesh, or ceramic elements).

If you're screwing a "coil" into a tank, it's not a coil, it's a cartridge that contains the coil, the wick and is structured to hold these in a specific way and provide proper contact points for the negative and positive.

It's just one of those things that people simply call wrongly (because it was simpler to call them "coils") and it stuck.

Personally I'm a stinker as I try to get the proper terminology to be used.
 
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