What is wrong with me?

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angstless

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EvilZoe is correct... I stopped because of illness....when I went back I smoked MORE THAN EVER..as if to punish myself for even thinking about stopping smoking...

Let it go..smoke and vape..smoke and vape...as you wish...so what if you smoke only 1/2 of what you smoked before? You smoke LESS hip hip hooray!!!!!!!!!!

NEVER quit smoking...always STOP...quitting seems like a looser...stopping is a winner! And stopping is never permanent if you don't want it to be.
 

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At some point, you'll probably have to decide to not smoke. It doesn't need to be stressful, but it is a conscious decision for some of us to just not do it. It's hard, but not that bad. You'll know when you're at that point. Until then, don't stress over it--you're already miles ahead of where you were just a few months ago. :)
 

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It's really a matter of choosing to stop. I think it's also about being honest with yourself a little too. A lot of smokers say they "need" to quit or they "should" quit. But really they don't want to admit that they do not want to quit. They don't want to admit that they actually really like the habit of smoking for whatever reason. They will say they "can't" quit. But I think a lot of the "can't" is more about not being honest & admitting they don't really want to.

The world wants everyone who smokes to agree that it's horrible habit & quit. But I for one don't agree that smoking was a horrible habit. It's the cigarettes that were horrible. The habit was very satisfying. And for me, the cigarettes are gone now but the vaping habit is still as satisfying.

edit: I also agree with Zoe's comment. Nothing's wrong with you for not being done with smokes yet. Just focus on enjoying vaping & don't worry about how many cigarettes you're smoking. And I also agree that increasing your nic intake will make it easier during the early transition.
 
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zoiDman

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... I have read so many people talk about that they didn't mean to quit and it just happened. I need suggestions on what to do. I am terrified of being without a analog. It probably makes no sense to most people but it scares me to give up something that has been a part of my life for all of these years. I don't even go to the store with out them.

What you have read is Usually people who Want to quit. Really Want to Quit.

Don't kick yourself. But also be Honest with yourself.

I tried quitting Many times. But I never Really wanted to quit. Deep Down Inside I wasn't ready to let go of them. When I saw e-Cigarettes, it was at a time when I did want to give Smoking for good. And it was still hard. Very Hard for 2 Weeks.

Do yourself a favor and consider using a Higher Level of Nicotine. And try doing a Ramp Down on the Cigarettes. There would be nothing wrong with Smoking a couple of Cigarettes a day and using an e-Cigarette the Rest of the Time.

Hang In there, you'll do fine.

:)

And BTW... Everything you said in you post makes Perfect Sense to Me, More sense than much of what I read here on the this Form. Because I know just how Hard it is to Give Up something you have done most of your life when you are Not Ready.
 

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I smoked while vaping when I first began and it just happened that I quit. I always suggest to anyone that if they need to smoke while vaping to do so, there is no rush, no race. You must do this at your own pace and in your own time. Anything else will result in failure. As posted by others you need to realize how far you've come by the number you haven't smoked. Also think about raising your nicotine level. Journaling may be necessary and enlightening as well. I wish you the very best and I know you'll do amazing. Good luck and Happy Vaping!
 

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All I can say is I cut down for over a month. It wasnt until I got the right combination of delivery device and juice that it clicked for me.

I think it was mostly the juice personally, as the flavor of the juice made it that I really really liked vaping, more than I liked smoking, and the taste of smoking just got to the point that it was so nasty that it was almost a struggle to smoke a cigarette. I was basically forcing myself to smoke, just to smoke. At that point I jut made a decision to go tobacco free.

Anything else I could say would just be repeating much of the good advice you have gotten here. Good Luck!
 

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Here goes. I bought a ego back in June used it then advanced on to the twist, spinner, lambo, MVP. I have probably 30 bottles of juice I have found my favorite juices also but i still smoke analogs. Why? I Have slowed down a lot but I just can't seem to kick the habit completely. I smoke somewhere around 1/2 pad a day. How do I get completely off analogs? Apparently it is going to take more willpower than I have had at the moment. Am I kidding myself into thinking I want to quit? I have read so many people talk about that they didn't mean to quit and it just happened. I need suggestions on what to do. I am terrified of being without a analog. It probably makes no sense to most people but it scares me to give up something that has been a part of my life for all of these years. I don't even go to the store with out them.
I'm in a similar boat. My first step in ditching analogs was to switch to chem free cigs, America Spirits, to get myself off the thousands of chemicals first. Started vaping in July. Smoked a lot less. Last week I went 72 hours without a smoke. Fell off the wagon on Friday. Attempting again after today. In those 72 hours, I saw some immediate changes. My sense of smell and taste went through the roof! Smoking seems much less satisfying now. Keep trying!!
 

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what worked for me is when I felt like a cigarette, and I was 100% sure a vape wasn't going to do it, only a cigarette would, I vaped for 10 minutes anyway, and then decided if I still wanted a cigarette. It ain't no big thing, it's only 10 minutes.

I also started on 24mg on a ego clearomiser type device.

I was certain I enjoyed cigarettes, I loved them, couldn't get enough of them, but I found out I loved not smoke soooooo much more, and the health benefits are amazing, it really is never too late to quit.

anyway, this is what worked for me, AngelZoe is making a lot of sense, and good luck.
 

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Smoking a few cigarettes is way better than being a 2 pad smoker.
If you have a security issue with leaving the cigs at home, just tuck one behind your ear. Eventually, after a short time you will forget to do it. If you have an emergency while you are out and need it, it's there.
Mostly I found that raising my nic level did the trick though, I wound up just not going back two years ago.
 

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Lot of good advice here. One of the biggest things you can do right now to help yourself is to relax. Don't put pressure on yourself to quit. I struggled with the same thought a few weeks ago. It seemed like every other thread here somebody was saying they started vaping and quit smoking immediately, why can't I do it. For those that have been able to do that, that's great. Not all of us can and that o.k.

Carry your smokes and your vape gear with you where ever you go. Then you'll have the option to smoke if you need to but it doesn't have to be your first choice. Let it happen naturally. Over time you might find that you're smoking a lot less without even realizing it.
 

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I kept half a pack on hand for almost a year before I got rid of them, if I felt I couldn't do with out one I could light one up. I didn't, but I could. I went zero nic after 18 months and quit completely after another six and sold my gear, Big mistake! The selling, not the quitting. :) a while later with a new stressful job I started smoking again and an having a lot harder time completely giving them up but I find that if I get really bad cravings buying a little new vape gear tends to calm them better in the long run than buying a pack of smokes. I say that in all seriousness and wish you the best of luck. For some of us it's easy, for some of us it's not and for some it's both.
 

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i quit again and again and again.
i quit cold turkey. (early on... for 11 months... then i encountered stress and BAM... back again)
i quit using sticks of gum.
i quit using toothpicks.
i quit using straw.
i quit using the patch.
i quit using the gum.
i quit using the patch and gum.
i quit using several full strength patches and pieces of gum at a time.

i still chain smoked when i got the opening... lighting each cigarette with the last... while sometimes wearing 2 patches and switching up gum pieces every 5 or so minutes.

among other things, the common denominator was i was STRESSING myself to quit.

counter productive. didn't work. i did gain weight and stress myself out, though.

only thing i'd managed to do was show up positive for bronchitis on every doctor visit for 10 years and increase my intake as desperation took over during each "quit".

this time i told myself; "i don't want to quit". "i just want to smoke inside and have more time for my kids without subjecting them to smoke."

that was my only goal. though, if i had a chance to choose vaping over a cigarette during a craving, i would (and did/have been) choose a vape first and see where it leads me.

i took the main trigger - the stress - off my shoulders. everything's been working out fine. my expectations are low. i'm not forcing anything. i'm able to enjoy the pass time and the flavors. in just a few weeks, i went from almost 4 packs per day to nearly nothing at all. i've smoked a total of 12 cigarettes that entire time. a couple morning have-to's, a couple after meal "flavor enhancers" and a couple "i'm too damned stressed out to try anything else right nows".

what was important for me was;
1) don't try to force it. if i had a cig, it was okay... quitting altogether was not the point. more of a "hopefully if everything works out" long term goal.
2) doing it right the first time. let me explain.

i'd been through all those attempts and learned from experience i'm not one of those people that necessarily had to worry about nicotine overdose. i'd done what had sent many people before me to the hospital and it always seemed it wasn't enough. (assuming of course that the action of smoking was just as important as the nicotine itself. i was just as addicted and trained physically to the action as anything else.) i'd also tried cig-a-likes and ego style devices from a few friends and they'd never done anything but make me want (need) another cigarette. they were disgusting tasting to boot.

also - i've always had sensitivities to certain things creep up unexpectedly and had serious allergies as a child. i can't wear jewelry or expose myself to nearly anything long term.

knowing all this, i started off with a VV/VW mod, a top coil, a bottom coil and a dripper, good batteries with a decent charger and a variety of juices from MTBaker with differing PG/VG blends and nic levels. I NEEDED to find what was going to work for me fairly quickly if this newfangled thing even had a chance of working. plus, i needed backups for my backups as downtime would only have one outcome.

so my advice based on that would be;
find what works for you
don't stress it
keep your expectations low

last, but not least - just let it happen and enjoy yourself. do what keeps you content.
 

zoiDman

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... I am terrified of being without a analog. It probably makes no sense to most people but it scares me to give up something that has been a part of my life for all of these years. I don't even go to the store with out them.

One other thing you might try is to Switch Brands of the Cigarettes you are smoking.

At the end, I switched to American Spirits from 20 years of smoking Benson & Hedges. The American Spirits are supposed to have no Additional Added Chemicals (?).

Maybe they don't or maybe they do? But I found I could go longer between smokes with the American Spirits than I could with the Benson & Hedges. Much Longer.

You might give them a try.

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unlike regular cigs, you dont have to smoke a whole ecig!!
You can just take a puff and if that's enough, stick it in your pocket! With a regular cig, once you light it you don't want to waste it.


Its worth it to have a FEW clearomisers/tanks;

these little thingies
vision-nano-clearomizer.jpg

are pretty small (smaller than a cig) and they only hold 1 ml of liquid but I have found them great for holding my nic vape, meanwhile I would vape from my protank most of the time.

So instead of raising or lowering nic level you can actually have whatever nic level you feel like available to you at any time.


I get 22mg nic eliquid; I put some of that in a v-nano; then I put some in a bottle and add more than twice as much VG (glycerin from the local pharmacy) and presto! I go me some lower nic level eliquid; I dilute with water too if I want (I use condensed steam from pot cover). I also keep some plain VG+water to vape with.
 
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