What makes a MOD a MOD?

[mrpony]

Ok...
Once and for all lets decide what a mod is. I've heard so many people with so many different answers as to what constitutes a MOD. I've been told that a MOD is any modified device. Well I haven't modified my zmax so is it or isn't it?
I've been told that MOD is an acronym for Manually Operated device meaning any PV you activate manually.which would include anything with a button,like an eGo. So what makes a MOD a MOD?

 

[Edible_Funk]

I think for a question like this, everyone who answers will have a different response. Personally, I consider a "mod" to be any device with a removable battery. As far as whether a mod constitutes a manual switch or not, I don't think so but they tend to. For example, I have a diablo e-pipe, and it has an automatic switch. But it has a removable 18350 battery, so I consider it to be a mod. Now egos and the like, since they have an internal battery and are essentially disposable consumable units, I wouldn't consider to be mods. Of course some will say that it's only a mod if you've actually modified it yourself, either with aftermarket parts or by somehow altering the construction (replacing springs with posts would count, I think) in some way or another. Like I said, you'll probably get a different answer for each response, but this is how I generally consider mods. And that would apply to the atomizer as well. Like if you use rebuildables, and have added or altered the construction of the atomizer to produce a better vape (drilling top cap holes, air chamber reduction, inserts to create the vortex swirl, etc) then that would also count as a mod in my book. So I don't think that it being commercially manufactured keeps it from being called a mod, but I'm sure others will disagree. Haha, you get a lot of different answers as to what constitutes a fully mechanical mod too.

 

[retird]

Definition of "modding"......

Modding is a slang expression that is derived from the verb "modify". Modding refers to the act of modifying hardware, software, or virtually anything else, to perform a function not originally conceived or intended by the designer.

Further .... modding as seen here in ECF is also the act of designing and building an e-cig (or atomizer/cartomizer, etc.).....or modifying one.....and an e-cig "mod" does not have to have a removable battery to qualify as a mod.....

 

[LucentShadow]

I agree with retird.

A ZMax is an APV.

Anything built, either from scratch, or into a stock device to modify it, makes a mod as I see it. Of course, those are different things, but they both fall into the realm of these sub-forums.

 

[Switched]

Short strokes... re-purposing something that was never intended to be a vapourizer and making it into a PV. e.g an Atari joystick, a cell phone, a flashlight ect...

Building something from scratch is simply an APV (advanced personal vapourizer)

 

[slimest]

Make something yourself, by your own hands, and you get a MOD. Otherwise you just talking about something and wasting time.

 

[moijamie]

I agree with edible i consider a Pv with a removeable battery a mod Like vamo provari Etc

 

[fourtytwo]

I agree with Ediable_Funk that this is one of those terms that will have different meanings to almost anyone here.
Me, I think a mod is a device modified in a substantial way...
Change the bottom cap on a Zmax? Not a mod. Stick a wrap on a Provari? Not a chance.
If the modification involves drilling, cutting, soldering etc…OK.
Without some substantial modification, the device is not a mod. It’s decorated!

 

[camaro73]

Short strokes... re-purposing something that was never intended to be a vapourizer and making it into a PV. e.g an Atari joystick, a cell phone, a flashlight ect...

Building something from scratch is simply an APV (advanced personal vapourizer)

An Atari joystick? That would be a good one. I haven't seen one of those in a long time though.

 

[retird]

Make something yourself, by your own hands, and you get a MOD. Otherwise you just talking about something and wasting time.

Good point slimest.....having built mods for years now it is one thing to talk about what qualifies as a mod and actually building one....just as an example, here is one of my mods that doesn't have a removable battery (battery soldered in place). those who say it is not a mod are incorrect and just wasting time.....

 

[mrpony]

Are you saying 'home built' or hand built?
If I bought one of the pictured ones would I be buying a MOD or an APV?
This kinda brings me back to my original dilemma.some one chastised me for calling my zmax a mod when he insists its not,it's an apv, I hadn't done anything to 'mod' it. But it was sold to me as a mod.

 

[DancingHeretik]

All APVs were called Mods or Battery Mods until about a year ago. At that point, someone decided that it sounded too home-made and not worthy enough. And the term APV was created, and pushed REALLY HARD by ECF.

Well, I had already been vaping for some time and never took to the new terminology. I figure that since it's not even really a Personal Vaporizer in the first place that it can't be an Advanced version of something that it isn't, right? If you're going to make up a fancy new term, it should at least make sense.

An atomizer vaporizes, not a battery. The complete unit (atomizer + battery + cartidge/whatever) could be considered a vaporizer, but not just a battery or battery holder/control unit.

Mod can mean modified from something's original purpose, something original. But, it can also mean a modified version of something. IOW, a modified version of an e-cigarette. A cig-a-like is the original style of e-cig. It looks like a cigarette. An eGo looks like a cigar at least. But, a Provari doesn't imitate a cigarette or cigar.

I don't know what rationale would be preferred or would make sense to anyone. I just know that I'm old-school. So, to me, all "APVs" are Mods. I would be happy to adopt a new name if it made sense. APV does not make sense to me.

 

[DancingHeretik]

Are you saying 'home built' or hand built?
If I bought one of the pictured ones would I be buying a MOD or an APV?
This kinda brings me back to my original dilemma.some one chastised me for calling my zmax a mod when he insists its not,it's an apv, I hadn't done anything to 'mod' it. But it was sold to me as a mod.

Who chastised you for using a different terminology than he/she does?

 

[Dansauls]

Very nice
Do you have one you would be willing to part with?

Good point slimest.....having built mods for years now it is one thing to talk about what qualifies as a mod and actually building one....just as an example, here is one of my mods that doesn't have a removable battery (battery soldered in place). those who say it is not a mod are incorrect and just wasting time.....

 

[mrpony]

Who chastised you for using a different terminology than he/she does?

It wasn't on EFC, it was a fellow consumer at my local store

 

[DancingHeretik]

It wasn't on EFC, it was a fellow consumer at my local store

Next time, you might ask him to show you the Vaporizer part of an APV. See if he can find it? Just make sure that it's detached from the actual atomizer/vaporizer first. His reaction would be curious.

I don't mind if people prefer the term APV, I just don't. And, if someone wants to be a snob about something and tell others that they are wrong, they had better be able to back it up by being right. And, he's not right that APV is THE correct term for a battery mod. It's one of many possibilities, not the one and only correct term. (Obviously, IMO it's only correct in that it's a commonly accepted term, not an appropriate term.)

I do agree that battery mods can be pretty advanced and amazing. It's just that they are advanced power controllers, not vaporizers. I would love it if we could come up with a more fitting name because they really do deserve to have a better name.

Advanced Vaporizer Power Controllers? AVPC? Oh well, whatever.

ETA: I'm sure I sound really nit-picky about the terminology. What made me get so irritated about it is that new people keep getting confused because of it. What I'm annoyed with is anything that causes unnecessary confusion.

 

[asdaq]

It wasn't on EFC, it was a fellow consumer at my local store

Damn. I wasn't going to let this get out, but really it was me. I hope I did not offend you mrpony, but it had been a hell of a day and I'd left my APV back in the SUV, and had just gotten a TXT from my SO about a missed appointment at the DMV. Sorry man!

 

[mrpony]

well,you guys know how it is. there's always that one goof in the crowd who knows more than everyone else in the room combined.
the full context is this; i was in the store to pick up up some juice and a woman was asking about different items in the case and i was giving her answers as best i could until a sales person(someone who actually worked there)could work with her. we got to the selection of mods and tanks and we were talking about this tiedye looking BAM she seemed to like. thats when this guy came up an made his point about how what was in the case werent MODs. right about then i let one of the guys at the store take over. thats also why im leaning towards MOD means Manually Operated Device. that seems to cover just about every aspect of what just about everyone see as being a MOD no matter how advanced or how simple.and it draws a line between the autos and other stuff and the more MOD like hardware.

 

[retird]

Are you saying 'home built' or hand built?
If I bought one of the pictured ones would I be buying a MOD or an APV?
This kinda brings me back to my original dilemma.some one chastised me for calling my zmax a mod when he insists its not,it's an apv, I hadn't done anything to 'mod' it. But it was sold to me as a mod.

I guess you could say that the mod I made is an APV. Why fret over whether a device is a mod or an APV? I guess this thread is kinda useless since it seems to just be conversation that leads nowhere....see ya guys in a better, more productive thread....I'm out of here....

 

[mrpony]

I guess you could say that the mod I made is an APV. Why fret over whether a device is a mod or an APV? I guess this thread is kinda useless since it seems to just be conversation that leads nowhere....see ya guys in a better, more productive thread....I'm out of here....

No worries. I think im just gonna go with the manually operated device one.it seems more rational to me