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I buy cheap Chinese (non vaping) stuff on ebay all the time. Sometimes you get a great deal, sometimes you get what you pay for. I'm assuming fast tech is the same way. What are the best deals? What should you absolutely avoid? And are the batteries safe? I've heard good things about their batteries and I've heard horror stories. Is it worth it to spend the extra money on the name brand equipment rather than the clones?
 

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When clones work, they're not as good as the original. I've encountered a few duds.

Fasttech may be cheap, but you get what you pay for. If you're not happy with it, you foot the bill and time for shipping it back to China for a refund.

My best purchase from them is DeKang e-liquid. Some of them are pretty good for a great price.
 

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Just remember that it takes a while for products from FT to arrive. Mine average eleven days.

What they advertise as ***-style are not, strictly speaking, clones. They get in trouble if they advertise anything as the real deal when, in fact, it is not.

Batteries take longer, although there is a recent improvement to that. I have not tried it.

If you go for an item that is advertised as ***-style, watch the reviews and discussion for problems. They do allow open discussion, as it helps them improve the product. Avoid ordering new products until the discussion is developing in a positive direction. However, if a new product really catches your eye, and the price is right, it is usually worth the risk.
 

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I buy cheap Chinese (non vaping) stuff on ebay all the time. Sometimes you get a great deal, sometimes you get what you pay for. I'm assuming Fast Tech is the same way. What are the best deals? What should you absolutely avoid? And are the batteries safe? I've heard good things about their batteries and I've heard horror stories. Is it worth it to spend the extra money on the name brand equipment rather than the clones?

When clones work, they're not as good as the original. I've encountered a few duds.
Fasttech may be cheap, but you get what you pay for. If you're not happy with it, you foot the bill and time for shipping it back to China for a refund.

Regarding FastTech, I have had quite a few purchases with them. The first time though it was a nightmare in that they sent the wrong item. I had to send photos to them via email, but they stood by their word and took care of it. The actually have a Return Center in Florida and when it's their fault they'll even send a Prepaid shipping label via email to you. Once the Florida center receives the wrong products then the Chinese warehouse ships out the correct one and the usual shipping times ensue.

About their shipping times, they have most definitely improved over the last two years. For me now it only takes roughly 12-16 days total time. Two years ago it would take 20-28 days.

I have bought mechanical MODS from them and other items. I have never bought a "bad" mechanical MOD from them, the quality was good and consistent.
Now RTAs are a different story. I have bought several of the Tayfun GT and GT T2 series from them and they all have been good from the go. I did receive as a gift from a friend a Orchid RTA replica which WAS a piece of junk! Leaked like a sieve! That went into the trash immediately.

I highly recommend that you try and purchase the batteries from places such as Ebay, only certain vendors though such as Battery Depot and such. A good online site is Illumination Supply. Good prices and fast shipping. They've changed the website name to ILLUMN now though. Fair honest pricing and great customer service!

The recommendation to read the reviews and discussions is a good idea as I use that resource too at FastTech. Just be careful and don't mention names of their competitors such as Focalecig or 3FVapes. They won't even let a reply be post with those names in the message box, but if you disguise it such as: Fo******g or 3F***s that method will work.

I also have bought some really great accessories such as a 14 hole wooden RTA stand and a tiered ejuice stand holder.

Remember as in any transaction on the internet; caveat emptor aka let the buyer beware.
 

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I did receive as a gift from a friend a Orchid RTA replica which WAS a piece of junk! Leaked like a sieve! That went into the trash immediately.
Be careful there. :grr::lol: I have six of their Orchids, and use them exclusively. They work, if you treat them right, and the price is right.
 
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Anything not labeled as authentic is a crap shoot. So many manufactures in China make clones that it's impossible to attest to their quality... some are awesome, some are junk. Insofar as batteries are concerned, I never buy clones. I always spend the couple of extra bucks and get the real thing (often from Fasttech... aim for authentic) since the battery is the part of the device that can experience the most catastrophic failure if safety tolerances aren't met.
 

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Sorry some people get duds but reading the discussions is important. I have 13 dollar mods every bit as good as their 150 dollar counterparts, if not better.

Batteries are legit, but again, it is important to read what's going on before buying.


Just a FYI fasttech also does wholesale and drop shipping, chances are buying clones on eBay means your already buying their products

Just my opinion and no offense to anyone but the people getting burned are the ones not researching the products, fadttech has a massive forum.

A perfect example-
One of the magma clones has like 4 stars, yet reading the discussions you find many people got them with holes not drilled out all the way and had to file a claim, fasttech sent a new part and then they changed the rating.

Returns are sent to Miami and they usually issue credits, I been using them for years and literally dozens of orders, the only time I've had bad luck I took a chance on an unrated or not well rated product, but i still don't fault them as I was willing to take the risk.
 
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Be careful there. :grr::lol: I have six of their Orchids, and use them exclusively. They work, if you treat them right, and the price is right.

You probably received good production runs. The one I got had the fill screw location on the atomizer bottom not properly located. It was drilled to where the hole was directly underneath the chimney's shell. So that the hole was halfway into the coil chamber and the other half in the juice section. This allowed the juice to run into the coil chamber through the gap and out through the air flow holes.

Here's a copy of the image I sent FastTech so they could inform their supplier of the defect.

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Anything not labeled as authentic is a crap shoot. So many manufactures in China make clones that it's impossible to attest to their quality... some are awesome, some are junk. Insofar as batteries are concerned, I never buy clones. I always spend the couple of extra bucks and get the real thing (often from Fasttech... aim for authentic) since the battery is the part of the device that can experience the most catastrophic failure if safety tolerances aren't met.

I couldn't agree more. It is a crap shoot, fortunately for me I've been able to be on the good end about 95% of the time from FastTech.
That's with me ordering around 18 times from them.

I agree with the battery issue. I have seen some images of cloned batteries catching on fire or blowing up and it's not a pleasant sight to behold. :shock:
 

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You probably received good production runs. The one I got had the fill screw location on the atomizer bottom not properly located. It was drilled to where the hole was directly underneath the chimney's shell. So that the hole was halfway into the coil chamber and the other half in the juice section. This allowed the juice to run into the coil chamber through the gap and out through the air flow holes.

Here's a copy of the image I sent FastTech so they could inform their supplier of the defect.

Defective%20atomizer%20fill%20hole%202_zpswewk5ykf.jpg
Thanks for the clarification. One of mine does tend to leak from the driptip when I refill it. I will have to locate that one and see if that is the problem. When I ordered a bell-cap, they also sent a plug to replace the driptip when refilling, and that works.
 

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Is the stuff labeled "authentic" really authentic?

Just a FYI fasttech also does wholesale and drop shipping, chances are buying clones on eBay means your already buying their products

I ordered an x6 battery and a nimbus rda from ebay and I assumed they came from fasttech (or similar) originally.

the battery is the part of the device that can experience the most catastrophic failure if safety tolerances aren't met

This scares the crap out of me. I've seen so many pictures of exploded batteries. My cheap x6 seems to be working ok.
 

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Now here's something interesting! I ordered a new ohm checker with the aluminum box and built-in battery.

Here's the photo showing where they've shipped it. Note the address it's being shipped from? Did they do this any particular reason showing the "return address" here in the US?

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Now here's something interesting! I ordered a new ohm checker with the aluminum box and built-in battery.

Here's the photo showing where they've shipped it. Note the address it's being shipped from? Did they do this any particular reason showing the "return address" here in the US?

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Is this from a private seller on eBay? He may have actual stock at his place of business fasttech does offer a wholesale and bulk discount. I can buy a nemesis for 15 but I can buy 15 nemesis wholesale for 10 each

If he did a drop ship from fast tech directly they put whatever return address you ask for.


And yes if its marked authentic it usually is.

Kanger and many others are trying everything they can to block fasttech. If I remember right innokin keeps having hissy fits that no matter what they do fast tech keeps ending up with more stock lol

But fasttech is a 30000 ft warehouse dead center of the manufacturing district. They also own several distributors with shell companies ordering stock from the big names then sending it to the FT warehouse.


In the case of clones many times customers fill out a product request form and fastech will callcall their suppliers and say any of you have a Kayfun yet? And they all look for a Kayfun diagram, then start making them, many times they have no idea what they make or how it works which is why some are very bad quality, its hard to do QC when you don't even know what your making

To illustrate my point here is a product purposely leaked to fasttech that does not work. They don't know what it is or how its supposed to work they just copy it.

$15.33 Aqua V3 Styled RTA Rebuildable Tank Atomizer - 3.5ml / stainless steel + glass at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
 
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Ebay is a huge ripoff. Fasttech uses that acrylic backstop in there pictures (a stand I have ordered for myself BTW) and if you look at many Ebay pictures you can see that stand.

Many/most B&M stores sell clones. But not all clones are created equal. Hotcigs, HCigar and so on. But on FT you can but the clone you want. And those reviews are fantastic. By far the best on the innerweb. Those folks are a trip. And they miss NOTHING. They can spot a monkey .... insulator or mofset from across the globe.

Plus some stuff is just plain fun. I'm in the process of putting together a blue cherry bomber with blue Taifun GT V2. Just for fun. I generally buy anything that that makes fun of cloners and the cloners copy it. Cracks me up.
 

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A lot of that Chinese non vape stuff comes from fasttech as well they are gadget junky heaven long before they ever sold vape gear.

heck for years now my bank sends them a Christmas card saying thanks for another wonderful year lol


We were discussing the aqua3 the other day it was meant to put a thorn in the cloners side, yet many will order it because of what it represents, so in the end the cloners still won, on a product you can't even use. ( guess that backfired lol)
 

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Ebay is a huge ripoff. Fasttech uses that acrylic backstop in there pictures (a stand I have ordered for myself BTW) and if you look at many Ebay pictures you can see that stand.

Many/most B&M stores sell clones. But not all clones are created equal. Hotcigs, HCigar and so on. But on FT you can but the clone you want. And those reviews are fantastic. By far the best on the innerweb. Those folks are a trip. And they miss NOTHING. They can spot a monkey .... insulator or mofset from across the globe.

Plus some stuff is just plain fun. I'm in the process of putting together a blue cherry bomber with blue Taifun GT V2. Just for fun. I generally buy anything that that makes fun of cloners and the cloners copy it. Cracks me up.

I agree that just browsing at FT can be fun, and sometimes illuminating -- I spotted a mech that had a very unique design, and it just *called* to me... but the reviews of it indicated that it was basically crap -- so I googled the type of mod it was "styled" from -- and it turned out to be very inexpensive, a smoktech Galileo -- and it's awesome! I paid only $10 more than for the no-name crap one at FT, and just lately i saw it on sale at hoosierecigs for $25 -- the same as the FT no-name price! :D

My own experience with FT has taught me just one thing: never ever use the "free shipping" option; it takes half of forever -- 43 days in my case.

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Smok Galileo is my daily driver when I'm home. LOVE that mod. Almost bought a backup from FT but the reviews stopped me as well.

I maintain all my stuff and with FT often a 10 pack of something is lest then one locally so I have bins full of spares. people I know will look at a Natilus tank and go "boy I'd be screwed in that broke". I say order one from FT for like a buck. They don't and who's door are they knockin on when it drops?? So I sell them a tank for 2 bucks. Long way to rich of coarse but I try to makes others vaping life seemless so they stay off the stinkies. Without FT I could not afford to be such a nice guy.
 
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