What the heck is in this stuff and where does the flavor come from?? Help!!

[Lethalp]

Ok so call me crazy but I have a problem I cannot figure out. I started with gs and yes I have since moved on to a tornado tank and using liquids and ce2s. But here is my problem. I love the flavor of the gs vanilla! Why is that a problem? Cause they are super expensive and the carts don't last near as long as they tell you they do. Then there is also the matter of the batteries, o I don't have to tell you guys, u know already, right? So I went to a local vape shop and asked them if they had a similar juice, nope. Then we decided to have a cart sent off to have the ingredients read (I don't have a clue what this consisted of, but I know he was trying to replicate another popular juice flavor as well). He told me when the cart came back it had no reading at all, no pg no vg nothing read on it at all. And of course I have tried to contact gs and ask them what the vg/pg ratio is so I could have at least had a starting point. So my question is does anyone know what is in a pre filled cart, and specifically a gs vanilla cart? Why don't they have to list what is in their carts? I mean not even basic info? I mean coca cola at least tells u what is in their pop without giving away any secrets, right? Also is there anyone out there who would like to try to duplicate this flavor for me?

 

[Luvs5rugrats]

Listing what ingredients, as far as the pg/vg content, should absolutely be listed. But as far as what combinations of flavors, you'll be hard-pressed for any vendor to give you their recipe as to what flavors at what ratios they use. Most that i have that list their ingredients list PG, VG, natural and artificial flavors. As far as what flavors, you could try and ask, it couldn't hurt but I don't know what you'll get for an answer.

 

[Renzuli]

You can try to contact the manufacturer , of your device , and see if they will give you that info . But don't hold your breath . And no one in particular , is going to try to reproduce your flavor for you . You need to order a small bottle of vanilla , at say "Gourmet Vapor" they can make it double , or even triple flavor , they will also custom mix , at your direction . So if you get a juice , but you want it a little sweeter , they can do that . They can also add add other flavors that might get it closer to your liking . Short of that , you could always get into making your own juices . You can get all the supplies from several forum approved vendors . With your juice , you can refill , your carts , yourself and save a lot of money .

 

[Lethalp]

Yes I have already tried several vendors, gourmet vapor being one of them. I did very much enjoy their juice, but it's a totally different flavor. I have also tried killa vanilla, and tho a great flavor, still not what I want. Should I be worried they won't tell what's in the juice? I have already asked gs, and they not only didn't answer, they removed my question!

 

[JD1]

....... Should I be worried they won't tell what's in the juice? I have already asked gs, and they not only didn't answer, they removed my question!

I don't think you should be worried but I doubt you'll be able to find the recipe either. Another popular flavor that many people have went on a (unsuccessful) hunt for is the original ry4 and there are others. I don't understand the no trace deal. If it makes vapor it's extremely likely that it's pg based and may or may not contain vg. Your best bet is trying to get as close as you can with diy imo.

 

[dormouse]

a. their juices are likely made in China along with their cartos and batteries and everything else

b. they will not tell you. It is not in their interest to tell you. They want people buying lots of cartos and not refilling them

Their juice is likely a high PG juice since thin juices work best in slim ecig cartos. It could be a custom ecipe. Or they could have a contract to get their juice from another juice maker whose juices are made in Canada. It could also be the Chinese Dekang Vanilla but I doubt it - I recently tried that and it was not very vanilla - was a bit light and fruit (but very faint flavor and sweetness)

I like Vapor4Life WOW Vanilla. Their cartos are KR808D-1 and you could use them with a D2 to D1 adapter from LeCig.com. Unfortunately the WOW Vanilla is not in any of the sampler packs. I buy the juices there - they sell the juices for all of their carto flavors. WOW Vanilla is a strong sweet marshmallow/cottoncandy-ish vanilla with a sharp-edged throat hit (if you have nicotine in it). The juice is clear and light and leaves little flavoring sediment. With the same adapter you could try SmokelessImage Volt's Vanilla cartos (I don't know if their Vanilla is in a sample pack too). I think they also sell their juice. I have not tried theirs yet but somebody said they like it. One other odd vanilla I use is Gourmet Vapor vanillarum (60% vanilla, 20% caramel, 20% rum)

 

[Lethalp]

Has anyone heard where they get their juice from? Even a rumor? I heard that blu gets their juice from Johnson creek, is that true? Has anyone tried other ecig brand vanilla carts that they like?

 

[WomanOfHeart]

If you're talking about Green Smoke, then they get their juice from Johnson's Creek. They made an exclusive deal with them right before I got my first starter kit from them. I wasn't impressed, TBQH, with either the flavors or with the e-cig.

 

[Lethalp]

Did I read that right? Woman of heart, you say green smoke vanilla comes from Johnson creek? I read that it was blu cig that had the deal with them? I will order from there and see if it is similar. I will say I got some apple cider juice from there and it was terrible, I pitched my cart right in the trash! Hope I have better luck with the vanilla

 

[Lethalp]

Can anyone confirm that green smoke gets their juice from Johnson creek? Has anyone else heard any other rumors? I have not given up on trying to find out where it comes from, or how to copy it. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

 

[dormouse]

Even if they are, they could have exclusive recipes JC makes for them alone.

And BTW some of JC's juices are all-VG and that is tough to use in standard cartos

 

[Nomoreash]

Did I read that right? Woman of heart, you say green smoke vanilla comes from Johnson creek? I read that it was blu cig that had the deal with them? I will order from there and see if it is similar. I will say I got some apple cider juice from there and it was terrible, I pitched my cart right in the trash! Hope I have better luck with the vanilla

JC probably has lots of companies they supply juice to. They are a very well regarded company but don't think if you buy the juice directly from them you'll get the same juice. They probably mix it up a little different for each which would make since to keep people buying the expensive pre-filled cartos. You could try and I may be wrong but I seriously doubt if you purchase from JC directly you'll be getting the same mix that's in the gs cartos.

Oh and whoever you sent your carto off to have the ingredients read I would advise not using again if he couldn't even find PG or VG, hope you didn't get charged for that. It had PG and/or VG in it, most likely a larger portion of PG.

 

[Lethalp]

So have you ever heard of this before? Send juice off to have it read? It seems like a great thing, but I am wondering if it's a real device or if it's just a guess? If it's real who does it? And no I was not charged for it, but I did send off my cart, and I got it back, lol, but I threw it away.

 

[djp5690]

There are several ways it could be read. Gas chromatography or spectrum analysis would be the top two, I'd imagine, but quite expensive... Not sure anyone would use them for contents of an e-cig...

 

[pyro13g]

JC probably has lots of companies they supply juice to. They are a very well regarded company but don't think if you buy the juice directly from them you'll get the same juice. They probably mix it up a little different for each which would make since to keep people buying the expensive pre-filled cartos. You could try and I may be wrong but I seriously doubt if you purchase from JC directly you'll be getting the same mix that's in the gs cartos.

Oh and whoever you sent your carto off to have the ingredients read I would advise not using again if he couldn't even find PG or VG, hope you didn't get charged for that. It had PG and/or VG in it, most likely a larger portion of PG.

Or that Lab realized they are breaking the law by analyzing it and telling someone what is probably a trade secret.