What the hell was I addicted to in tobacco?

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I used to smoke first thing in the morning before I did anything as well, I would even go out to the garage in the middle of the night if I happened to wake up to smoke. Every commercial break go smoke, I had a soda, go smoke, hell anything, go smoke. I vape pretty hard but not a slave to it like I was the coffin nails.
 

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BT started out treating tobaccos with ammonia as a curing process. Then Marlboro found out that through careful control of this process they could significantly increase free-base nicotine -- and their sales skyrocketed. And most of other brands followed suit within a few years. The same technique allowed use of lower-tar tobaccos while maintaining effective delivery of nicotine. Merit was the first brand to doing this. Small percentage increases in free-base nicotine (which also occurs naturally) significantly increase smoker "satisfaction" -- and their addiction.

And this was just the beginning in manipulation of tobacco chemisty.
 
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Funny, reading this thread makes me think. When I switched to vaping a month ago I was stuck on Turkish tobacco and always went out and vaped when I got up and followed my same old smoking schedule. Last couple of days I switched to Dark chocolate and come to think of it I am not following any of my old smoking patterns the last two days like I did with the Turkish. Have no reasoning behind this but reading this thread and thinking about it I didn't vape for an hour after I got up today or yesterday.
 

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Reading the thread has really brought home the fact of how much it changes all of our lives.
I always think about what it's done for our health .. never spent much time thinking about how our habits or daily routines have changed too.
It's only now that I look back over the last 2 years, and I can see the gradual changes I have made also.
I read your posts, and I think ... me too.
Puts a smile on my face as it's all been for the better, for all of us.
Thanks for the thread guys
 

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The same technique allowed use of lower-tar tobaccos while maintaining effective delivery of nicotine. Merit was the first brand to doing this. Small percentage increases in free-base nicotine (which also occurs naturally) significantly increase smoker "satisfaction" -- and their addiction.

And, this is probably what allows brands like American Spirit to label their stuff as All Natural.
 

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Thanks for all the replies, im still shocked that I have managed to quit cigarettes, I had been smoking for around 17 years, it was only this year that I heard about vaping and if I am honest, I thought I could use it to cut down the amount I was smoking not totally give up, I was smoking a 50g packet of Golden Virginia every 3 - 4 days and have been doing for years without filters too! Now funnily enough, I cant bear to even stand next to someone smoking a cigarette as the smell makes me want to throw up!
 

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Two packs a day for 40 years plus. Check my sig for my last one. Quite proud of myself. My PV gives me just about everything my coffin nails gave me...something for my hands to fiddle with, that oral thing with the lips, the inhalation of 'something' (smoke or vape), visual exhalation. I control my nic level, don't get the need to vape like I once needed to smoke. As most other people, lighting up was the first concern upon waking up. Now as I wander by the kitchen table where I left my PV I'll pick it up and put it in my pocket. Start the coffee..feed the dogs..let them out and in..brush my teeth, etc. Eventually I'll vape. No craving or all demanding need to vape. My addiction was to cigarettes, not the tobacco or nicotine!!
 
You, like the rest of us, believed it because that's what we were told. And I don't blame the experts, as I think they believed it too. But now that the entire premise has come into question, they won't re-examine it. So now, I call them liars. And question every other thing they have ever told me.

ETA: And THIS is why I love the internet (and why the 'experts' hate it). Prior to this free flow of information, we had no choice to believe them as they were our only source of information. Now we can confront them, and they don't like it.

Hehe, 40 years ago I was told that nicotine was addictive and caused cancer. Also if you ever tried one dose of ... you would have flashbacks the rest of your life. Well, nicotine was not my problem, my cancer was not caused by cigeretts, and I am still waiting for those flashbacks. They didn't know what they were talking about then and still don't.


Thank you for sharing with me.
 

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After 4 months I no longer look for that cig first thing in the morning also. . It's nice isn't it.

Lately I'm finding that I get up, come in the kitchen to start a cup of tea brewing... go back and get dressed, come back in here, get the tea ready, sit down at the computer and hit "MyPosts", read a few, make a few replies... and THEN I realize, my mod is still over there on the counter! :shock:

I was never one to smoke the very minute I opened my eyes, because asthma is bad in the morning, you kinda have to kick your lungs into full operation before you can smoke... but I *always* thought about that smoke, every minute until I could breathe well enough to go out and fire it up. But now, 30-40 mins after waking, I'm like, "what... oh yeah, that's what I want." :D

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There are a lot of things that are purposefully put into cigarettes to make them more addictive. MAOIs are just one of them. Google "MAOI in cigarettes".

The chemicals that make cigarettes addictive aren't in e-liquid.

Actually MAOIs are naturally occurring in tobacco. It surprised the hell out of me too, but it's true; that's one reason why WTA is so effective, it contains the full alkaloid spectrum of tobacco, which includes the MAOIs harman and norharman.

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I was as addicted to the organic, no chemicals added stuff my own tobacco I smoked my last 3, or so years of smoking, as I was pre-made BT cigarettes... Things have chemicals in them, lots of them. I remember an article a while ago about a study which found 20000 chemicals in bottled water... A lot of people vape far more than they smoked. What's in e-liquid?...
 

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You, like the rest of us, believed it because that's what we were told. And I don't blame the experts, as I think they believed it too. But now that the entire premise has come into question, they won't re-examine it. So now, I call them liars. And question every other thing they have ever told me.

ETA: And THIS is why I love the internet (and why the 'experts' hate it). Prior to this free flow of information, we had no choice to believe them as they were our only source of information. Now we can confront them, and they don't like it.

I read somewhere that the real addiction in cigs is tar...but who knows if that's true or not.
 

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Actually MAOIs are naturally occurring in tobacco. It surprised the hell out of me too, but it's true; that's one reason why WTA is so effective, it contains the full alkaloid spectrum of tobacco, which includes the MAOIs harman and norharman.

Andria

I think its about time I tried WTA. While vaping helps, I don't think my addiction is nic dominant .The nic, the psychological aspects, and hand too mouth ritual ( while very helpful!) doesn't seem to be NEARLY the whole story for me. I'm sure I'm addicted to other psychoactive compounds in tobacco that regular eliquid doesn't touch.
 

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I think its about time I tried WTA. While vaping helps, I don't think my addiction is nic dominant .The nic, the psychological aspects, and hand too mouth ritual ( while very helpful!) doesn't seem to be NEARLY the whole story for me. I'm sure I'm addicted to other psychoactive compounds in tobacco that regular eliquid doesn't touch.

Yeah, I can't vape over 10mg or it makes me sick as a goat -- but the WTA keeps cravings away, and even more importantly, keeps me from being depressed, or ...... off for no apparent reason -- my husband likes that last one a great deal. ;)

I read a lot of posts where people are struggling, everybody and their damn brother goes "raise your nic level!" like that's some kind of universal panacea, but that just doesn't work for some of us -- making myself nauseous would not help matters one iota. To me, nausea is a fate worse than death.

Andria
 
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