Might I get addicted to nicotine?

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In case the OP misses the nuance. You will get sick very sick.

When my GF was a teen, she got drunk on beer somehow (party? Whatever.) She got sick. She won't drink beer to this day. Can't even stand the smell of it. Aversion therapy works for the non-addicted with no prior success. For quitting smoking...not so much.
 

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The OP has not made a single post aside from the thread starter, let alone to their own thread.

I think that says something.

It probably says that they were turned off by the hostile tone of some of the replies here.

That said, my advice to the OP would be to give away the 18mg to a smoker/vaper and get some 0mg/ml from a vendor like Mt Baker Vapor if you really want to try vaping. Mt Baker ships very fast, far quicker than DX, so you'll have your order from them before the DX stuff arrives.

Yes, even a small bottle of 18mg is enough to get you hooked. Even without nicotine, vaping can be habit-forming. I happen to think it's a less harmful habit to have than eating candy, junk food, or drinking alcohol, but that's just my opinion.
 

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All I can tell you is I was in civics class (yeah, high school, back when we rode dinosaurs :) ) when I had my first "nicotine fit". I knew exactly what it was and what I wanted. And I wanted it very, very, very much. And that was early on. Like the first week I ever had a cigarette.

It would seem to me that in your case you became addicted quickly. The first "nicotine fit" I had was at a much later age than high school. I was at work, at the time, and was work induced. I was about 21 at the time, and had to deal with some particularly nasty customers. You know the type you just want to put your foot up their backside.

I am so addicted to nicotine that I had resigned myself to the health consequences. Whatever they were. Cancer didn't sound that bad up against those quit attempts.

(Bet you think I'm kidding. I'm not. If they take vaping away, I will smoke. End of story.)

Actually I don't think you're kidding at all. Given my long term use of nicotine, 20+ years now, if I couldn't vape, I will smoke. I am addicted to nicotine, I have no problems admitting that. It would seem to me that you and I are in the same boat, though it perhaps took me longer to get in the same position.

Well, see, I remember reading about those studies back in pre-Katrina New Orleans and I probably squirreled the papers or articles away but I had an actual office back then which did not make the transition gracefully. In short, I could be digging until my first Social check arrives. So I'm not much help there.

Its not a problem. If you find them please forward them to me. As I said previously I'm interested in the science behind the question we are discussing.

Still, it wasn't "pop sci" crap. I've always been something of an academic by nature and was doing post-grad work in anthro at the time. Didn't have much use for the popular press. About the closest I got back then to "popular" publications was SciAm.

I wouldn't call myself an academic, I am, however, very interested in truth. It is also my view that where science can explain a phenomena it should be used instead of philosophy, belief, or conjecture.

And predisposition is just that. Predisposition is not predestination. The ANTZ may want to oversimplify and use the research as a club as they seem to get some weird emotional satisfaction out of "punching downward" and need somebody to look down on but genetics is more complex than that.

Yes well my personal hypothesis is that many if not most of the ANTZ are in fact persons who have pathological reasons for their "punching downward". In my experience they are the type of people who need someone to hate, and it is no longer acceptable to hate people based on their race, ethnicity, age, religion or sexual orientation any more. Their form of "tobacco control" is not related to public health (Education on the topic has handled that), nor is it about prevention or cessation concerns (or they would support THR). Rather it seems to me that the ones that are involved in so-called tobacco control is about scapegoating smokers for their own sick desires to have someone who can be a second or third class citizen.

That said, yes I agree that predisposition is quite different than predestination. For example given my family's history my mother would have a predisposition to nicotine addiction, yet she has never smoked or used any other form of nicotine.
 

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Hi,

A few days ago, I ordered an e-cigarette + e-liquid (10ml), just to try. (I don't want it to stop smoking, just to fool around with it). However, today I noticed that the e-liquid I bought is High in Nicotine (18mg/ml). I don't want to throw it away , so If I use it, and afterward I use nicotine free e-liquid, might I get addicted to nicotine?

I'd also like to know if you have any cheap link for nicotine free e-liquid.

Thanks!

PS: I am not a smoker.

Bottom line: If I try 5ml to 10ml e-liquid nicotine, might it lead me to addiction?

*The E-liquid I bought: Tobacco Tar Oil for Electronic Cigarette - Red Bull Flavor (10ml) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme


Okay, nicotine is highly addictive, I would not suggest anyone starting it at all. If you wanna vape, for whatever reason, do it with 0 nic please. We do not want the ANTZ blaming people getting addicted to nicotine on vaping. We are trying hard to fight all the bad press that we are getting and getting people addicted to nicotine will not help our cause.

Please, if you don't smoke then please don't do this, if you feel that you have to do this then please, as others have suggested, use the 0 nic. :)
 

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Good post.

I also feel it's not a good idea to start Vaping nicotine if a person has not used it before. There are theories (I wouldn't know if they are true) that nicotine addiction is permanent; i.e. once you have used it, you will always have a "taste" for it.

Personally speaking, if people want to vape zero nic to enjoy (?) the sensation, that's OK.

I think the O.P. was just a little naive and asking a reasonable question.

Thanks.

There's nothing wrong with any question. We are judged more by our responses than the OP is by the actual question. I have to remind myself that the OP is a non-smoker so lacks any frame of reference for judging how addictive nicotine on it's own really is.

It's a pretty safe bet that the thought of a non-smoker buying 18mg/ml nicotine is going to get everyone's hackles up. That's OK too, I think that response is appropriate for the situation. If we've managed to convince the OP and anyone else who comes along that it's a really bad idea then that is a good thing.

The question of whether vaping 0 nicotine is an appropriate thing for a non-smoker to do was not actually asked but it's a contentious issue. There's no solid evidence for the harm or safety of vaping however common sense indicates that it is astronomically safer than smoking. Is it safer than not doing either? Common sense also says that it is not, and I don't think there's any problem with telling people that, even though no one can point to any factor that has a significant health risk.

Personally, I think there are other lifestyle choices that will have a far greater affect on an individuals health such as diet, exercise, alcohol abuse etc etc.
 

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There are a lot of opinions. This discussion has struck a nerve in several people. Nicotine is highly addictive. Even after I quit smoking and started vaping I am addicted. I recently ran out of juice and it was awful going through the withdrawal symptoms. IMHO nobody can stop you from vaping, that is your decision. If you are not a already addicted to nicotine then it would be silly to vape it. If it were me I would get rid of the juice you have and find some with no nicotine.
 

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Non-smoker wanting to vape.. I really don't have a problem with this.. But, I really do suggest you go ahead and try the 18mg Juice, make sure you get a full five minutes of vape around your head, even inhale some of it..

No, you're not going to get addicted trying it this one time.. You're going to get sick, turn green, sweat your face off and want to Die next to the porcelain goddess!!!!!

(18mg is high?? hmm LOL)
 

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Vaping is not safe, I vape, but only because it HAS to be safer than smoking - I also look forward to the day when I quit vaping. I feel like vaping is a step in the right direction for me but thats all it is... just a step forward - why step backwards?

Throw the juice and use the vape battery to build something that would be more useful to you such as a torch???

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I know a few people that vape zero nic and I think its fine to do so. Vaper one is a ex smoker that quit years ago and on a rare ocasion likes to vape. Better than buying a pack of smokes and smoking um imo..

Vaper two, smoked once in while never adicted and vapes on occasion when drinking. Again better than buying a pack of smokes and smoking um.

If thier is no Nic , they don't need to vape. They vape when they feel like it and don't most of the time.

FREEDOM - to you what you want to do. They aren't hurting anyone.
 

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I think some of you guys are being a bit too cynical and hostile, in the way you are responding. Though I do agree with most of what was said.

While of course it's possible to become addicted to nicotine (duh), I think the chances of you becoming addicted from vaping the small amount you bought are fairly slight, though not impossible I'd guess. That being said, it's not a toy to 'fool around with', you should probably leave it alone. However, that's totally up to you. I wouldn't do it myself if I didn't need it to keep me off the cancer sticks.

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About 2 months ago, I saw a YouTube video on someone who was using vaping to lose weight! :blush: Their thinking was that they could purchase 0 nic eliquid and use the sweet flavors to fend off cravings for sweets. While it does help me personally not to eat as many sweets, I hate the idea that they are doing this! OTOH, I intend to get my nic to 0 (and if my blood pressure doesn't come down quick, it will happen sooner rather than later, and I have also just ordered my first 0 nic juice). Once my nic is at 0, I don't want to stop vaping! I still love the hand to mouth habit...I would miss vaping,so being at 0 nic and still vaping is my win-win.
 

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Whatever reason a person vapes should not matter one bit to anyone else on this forum. Whether it is to quit smoking, to curb a sweet-tooth, or heavens forbid... BECAUSE THEY FREAKIN ENJOY IT, should not be a concern to anyone in this forum. Sure the vast majority of the vapers here are using it to quit smoking. For that I will always commend them for making a choice to wanting to live a longer life. But for anyone here to tell anyone they have no business vaping is just stupid. For anyone to suggest a non-smoker to not vape is just plain stupid. The reason why? If it is a safe product, anyone should be able to use it. By suggesting people not to use it entails that there is some danger to it. If you are going to suggest that I DO NOT do anything that is more dangerous than vaping, then life isn't really worth living now that I can't do 90% of the things that I do enjoy....
 

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..I am not a smoker.

Bottom line: If I try 5ml to 10ml e-liquid nicotine, might it lead me to addiction?

Wait, Ashton I see you hiding! Good one.

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You guys are too funny. :laugh:
 

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Whatever reason a person vapes should not matter one bit to anyone else on this forum. Whether it is to quit smoking, to curb a sweet-tooth, or heavens forbid... BECAUSE THEY FREAKIN ENJOY IT, should not be a concern to anyone in this forum. Sure the vast majority of the vapers here are using it to quit smoking. For that I will always commend them for making a choice to wanting to live a longer life. But for anyone here to tell anyone they have no business vaping is just stupid. For anyone to suggest a non-smoker to not vape is just plain stupid. The reason why? If it is a safe product, anyone should be able to use it. By suggesting people not to use it entails that there is some danger to it. If you are going to suggest that I DO NOT do anything that is more dangerous than vaping, then life isn't really worth living now that I can't do 90% of the things that I do enjoy....

The Op asked a question, people answered.. During the normal flow of a conversation this is what happens. What exactly is wrong with stating opinions exactly?

Many responses conceded the point that the OP could and should do whatever he/she wanted, along with various opinions.

Safe bet to say if you don't want to hear what people have to say you shouldn't ask in a public forum where opinions will vary widely.

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The Op asked a question, people answered.. During the normal flow of a conversation this is what happens. What exactly is wrong with stating opinions exactly?

Many responses conceded the point that the OP could and should do whatever he/she wanted, along with various opinions.

Safe bet to say if you don't want to hear what people have to say you shouldn't ask in a public forum where opinions will vary widely.

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Younger people nowadays are being conditioned to NOT have an opinion other than chiding those of us who do. They think its enlightened....sad is what it is.
 
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