What to buy for $100-200??
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There's a lot of debate about this and I'm probably opening a can of worms in your thread so let me go ahead and say "Sorry"... I wouldn't put 20A batteries in a 200W mod. I'd go with LG HB6's (very short run time) or Sony VTC4's (still less run time than the HG2's, but more than the HB6's) They handle high wattage MUCH better. If you go with the TFV4, you will be running it between 80 - 120 watts. I put a pair of HG2's in my ipv4 and they got pretty warm running it at 80W. I put VTC4's in it and they never got above room temperature. 
Since I have all of those, I give that package the Roxy Stamp of Approval.
Its quite a setup though for someone new to vaping. If the Griffin turns out to be a bit much for you at this time, come back to see us, and we will help with an intermediate tank to bridge the gap until you're ready for the Griffin. I have that puppy set up with fused claptons running 110W, and it could go higher (but I can't. I'm getting to be an old lady).
Lg hg2s in a triple 18650 is fineThere's a lot of debate about this and I'm probably opening a can of worms in your thread so let me go ahead and say "Sorry"... I wouldn't put 20A batteries in a 200W mod. I'd go with LG HB6's (very short run time) or Sony VTC4's (still less run time than the HG2's, but more than the HB6's) They handle high wattage MUCH better. If you go with the TFV4, you will be running it between 80 - 120 watts. I put a pair of HG2's in my iPV4 and they got pretty warm running it at 80W. I put VTC4's in it and they never got above room temperature.
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I just find it a pain. With the dna200 it'll last you the whole day and night using up to 150w even. Slap it on the charger overnight. Wakeup and it's charged. I find it hard to switch out the batteries. And it's also hard on the battery wraps always pulling them out. Just my opinion though.
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I will not charge the batteries in the mod (rx200). P4U tried twice and failed twice to do that safely with a dual series mod. Sigelei won't even try. Now, people are doing it with the rx200, but I feel much safer having 2 sets of batteries and swapping them out. I just bought LG HG2s for $5.20 each from this weekend's sale at 101vape. So for less than $16 for a second set of batteries, I have some peace of mind.
I wouldn't in the rx200 neither, but the dna200 has an on board charger that balances the batteries equally. That's why I picked the dna over the rx200. Also the customizability
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Still a series mod. 3 batteries or one, still only 20A CDR. I got my RX200 yesterday. I'll give it the same test I gave the iPV4, but I expect the 20A batteries will still get pretty warm. Repeatedly running your batteries till they get hot makes them age faster too. Lots of folks think I'm a fearmonger, but I've seen a battery go supernova. It ain't purdy. I'd rather err on the side of caution and get an hour or so less on a charge than end up on the news as ammunition for the vape-nazis. Just my
though.
I won't charge my batteries while sleeping. Chances are that nothing will go wrong while they are charging but I personally will not take that chance. I would much rather pay the small amount for extra batteries so I don't have to charge while sleeping or away from them while they are charging. I charge mine while I am close and awake so I can check on them while they are charging. I had one ego style battery that got so hot I could hardly touch it. Needless to say, that one went into the recycling bin. I am just glad I was nearby to take care of it before something more than just heat happened. Up to that point it charged just fine. BTW: I don't charge my cell phone, notebook computer or any other electronic device while sleeping either
I quoted Roxy just to add to her very good advice.
Still a series mod. 3 batteries or one, still only 20A CDR. I got my RX200 yesterday. I'll give it the same test I gave the iPV4, but I expect the 20A batteries will still get pretty warm. Repeatedly running your batteries till they get hot makes them age faster too. Lots of folks think I'm a fearmonger, but I've seen a battery go supernova. It ain't purdy. I'd rather err on the side of caution and get an hour or so less on a charge than end up on the news as ammunition for the vape-nazis. Just my
Finally!!!!! Someone with come common sense.
If this is your first go-around. I simply can not go along with the suggestion of a multiple battery PV. Too many things that can go wrong. Start out with a simple setup and learn how to vape.
Find out what you like first ..... THEN look for the nice set up that does what YOU like.
Most of what's been suggested so far will go through both batteries & juice like crazy ... and you will just end up smoking again.
I won't charge my batteries while sleeping. Chances are that nothing will go wrong while they are charging but I personally will not take that chance. I would much rather pay the small amount for extra batteries so I don't have to charge while sleeping or away from them while they are charging. I charge mine while I am close and awake so I can check on them while they are charging. I had one ego style battery that got so hot I could hardly touch it. Needless to say, that one went into the recycling bin. I am just glad I was nearby to take care of it before something more than just heat happened. Up to that point it charged just fine. BTW: I don't charge my cell phone, notebook computer or any other electronic device while sleeping either
I quoted Roxy just to add to her very good advice.
Same here. Thanks for adding that
I would tend to agree. Ease of use has to weigh in to the equation. I still advocate for the Kanger Subox Mini or the Evic VCT Mini as decent starter units, and I am enjoying my iStick TC60's with the Melo 2 tanks. An extra battery or two and a charger and you have a decent kit that can throw some clouds with respectable flavor, and coil choices to suit your taste.
There's a lot of debate about this and I'm probably opening a can of worms in your thread so let me go ahead and say "Sorry"... I wouldn't put 20A batteries in a 200W mod. I'd go with LG HB6's (very short run time) or Sony VTC4's (still less run time than the HG2's, but more than the HB6's) They handle high wattage MUCH better. If you go with the TFV4, you will be running it between 80 - 120 watts. I put a pair of HG2's in my iPV4 and they got pretty warm running it at 80W. I put VTC4's in it and they never got above room temperature.
How can you even compare an 18650 to a 26650 mAh ? especially if you had two of each ...................
MNKE 26650 battery
KP Private Label 26650 4000 mAh
I'm aware it's 20a cdr because it's series not parallel. But 3 batteries =12.4v fully charged. 9.6v cutoff. At 9.6v at 200w it's 20.8A. 200w ÷ 12.4v is 16.12A.
Safe to say I never run above 125w. So I'm way within my safety margin with my lg hg2s. And I have never felt them get warm once. So to @tj99959 I have common sense
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Safe to say I never run above 125w. So I'm way within my safety margin with my lg hg2s. And I have never felt them get warm once. So to @tj99959 I have common sense
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I'm not sure though if any 26650s are rated above 20A. I'm waiting on Mooch's tests to find out. The Stout is using a single 26650 so in my mind its not really a 100W mod. I consider it a 60W mod at best. Granted, I do like the mod.
You lost me. The HG2, HG6, and VTC4 are all 18650s. Where did the 26650s enter into the discussion?
2650s are just high mAh/low amperage batteries.
That's at just under half an ohm. If you use, say... a TFV4 with the .25 ohm coil you come in at 38.6A. Even at 125W it's still 23A. The chips in mods are supposed to cut off at wattages that high when the voltage gets that low, but what if the chip malfunctions?
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