What Wattage Do You Vape.

[darthkir]

Hi guys,

I am just using my first RA which is the Cobra, migrating from carto and silica wick. At first i used my typical sweet spot of 8.0w and found that the flavor and vapor is not like what i expected. An advise from a member here and i bumped up my wattage to around 12 and i got the result i wanted.

What wattage do you guys normally vape on your ss wick RA?

 

[vapdivrr]

12 to 13 watts.28g, 1.0 ohms, 3.5volts

 

[gdeal]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-not-matter-its-all-about-wire-temp-read.html

 

[Thrasher]

you didnt say what the coil ohms are.

but im usually at 1.8 to 2.0 ohms about 8-10 w

 

[Azphat12]

9 watts on my rba and ss mesh Vivi Nova
32g Kanthal a-1, usually 4/5 wraps on rba and 3/4 on the Vivi Nova
Usually land in the 2.0 to 2.5 ohm range on both.

 

[vapdivrr]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-not-matter-its-all-about-wire-temp-read.html

to me i never thought that watts matter, the only time i think about them is when someone asks me how many watts i perfer. actually none of these things matter (ohms, volts,etc) what matters to me is the end result, personal preferance. if it works and tastes good and has good vapor, its all good. the numbers are just numbers.

 

[MorpheusPA]

I feel like the little boy in the midst of the football team here.

I vape at 5.7 watts, or 3.7 volts and 2.4 ohms. That does it for me and I tend to find anything higher voltage/wattage to be too harsh.

 

[gdeal]

to me i never thought that watts matter, the only time i think about them is when someone asks me how many watts i perfer. actually none of these things matter (ohms, volts,etc) what matters to me is the end result, personal preferance. if it works and tastes good and has good vapor, its all good. the numbers are just numbers.

All good. I was just providing some additional info if the OP was interested.

Actually, most responses on this thread were great; wire gauge, ohms, volts, wick type and thickness, juice type/mix, flavoring, nic level.

With the details, I can get my head around what people like and why as well as the what device (atty/battery) its happening on.

 

[vapdivrr]

I feel like the little boy in the midst of the football team here.

I vape at 5.7 watts, or 3.7 volts and 2.4 ohms. That does it for me and I tend to find anything higher voltage/wattage to be too harsh.

might as well be vaping a ego, just kidding. thats why these gennys are so cool, there are so many different configurations you can do.

 

[Rule62]

I wind my 32awg coils to ~2.2 Ω and vape anywhere between 9.0 to 11.0 watts, depending on the juice. Tobacco juices will be closer to the high end. Sweet juices toward the lower.

 

[JD1]

I usually like five to six watts. I think it's just what I've gotten use to. To me, it's somewhat similar to comparing non filtered ciggies with regular filters and ultra-lights. Since I'm older than dirt, I can remember smoking unfiltered Camels and declaring them to be the best cigarette on planet earth. When I switched to vaping, a regular filtered Winston was my fav.

I've actually been experimenting with that some this past couple of weeks as I've been playing around with rebuilding my reduxes with cotton, a Gen 1 with ss, and today, another Gen 1 with cotton sitting behind and pushing up to an empty coil. All these are quite capable of being pushed to higher watts, but when I do, I very quickly dial it back down to around five or six watts.

Where is your sweet spot? - View Poll Results

 

[vapdivrr]

All good. I was just providing some additional info if the OP was interested.

Actually, most responses on this thread were great; wire gauge, ohms, volts, wick type and thickness, juice type/mix, flavoring, nic level.

With the details, I can get my head around what people like and why as well as the what device (atty/battery) its happening on.

i actually had read that posts before, kind of understand it. but some of that stuff is quite technical. i definately understand about resistances and ohms and volts alot more now than before i started vaping. its all very interesting for sure. whats really strange though is how someone can use the same set-up in a device and have awesome results, while another totally has different results. and one is thinking that the other is full of sh--. i have heard of set-up's that are supposed to be the bomb, and just not from one person, but when i or other have tried, no good. and vice-versa, you know. you just wouldnt believe that one tiny device like a genny can be so diverse, i love them.

 

[darthkir]

Thanks for the feedback! I am now trying to find a way to get a thicker vapor without getting a harsh taste at high wattage/voltage.
My setup is 400 mesh at 2.5 ohm, 70/30 pg. My mesh is 30mm wide rolled 2mm thick using a paper clip oxidized. The airhole is 1mm. Now im vaping at 8.5 w this is whithout getting harsh taste.

Any advise to get thicker vapor?

 

[nz1001]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-not-matter-its-all-about-wire-temp-read.html

I was inspired by this post.

Watt/heat preference is highly perspective, just like how we prefer our food – sweet, salty, spicy… and how much to add. However, it’s always rewarding to understand the principle of the things.


Resistance wire: AWG (American wire gauge)
Resistance ~doubles every +3 AWG units (example: 33 has about twice the resistance as 30 at a given length)

Estimate/guesstimate for tobacco and bakery liquid from my personal experience:
AWG 36 7.5-8.5 Watts (1.4 – 2.8 Ω)
AWG 34 9-11 Watts (1.4 – 2.8 Ω)
AWG 33 10-12 Watts (1.4 – 2.4 Ω)
AWG 32 11-13 Watts (1.4 – 2.4 Ω)
AWG 30 13-15 Watts (1.4 – 2.0 Ω)
AWG 28 15-18 Watts (1.4 – 2.0 Ω)

In general, provided wicking can keep up, lower AWGs (thicker resistance wires) produce more intense vaping. However, wicking usually becomes issue with too many thick wraps heating the juice – therefore the common preference is to build a low AWG coil at low resistance.

Illustrations:
Analogy: more heat would be needed to warm up a larger room than a smaller room in winter.
At same AWG, 2.8Ω is 2x the length (2x the volume) as 1.4 Ω – requires more heat/wattage (more vaporizing) but not necessarily a proportional/linear relation.
At same resistance, AWG 30 is 2x the length (4x the volume) of AWG 33 – requires much more heat/wattage …

For more…
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/rebuildable-atomizer-systems/367236-rba-general-info.html

 

[gdeal]

NZ1001 - Great post. Dont know how I missed that. There is so much in there to consider. I'll post comments over there once I have a better review.

 

[EDO]

Gdeal I am not sure I get your OP in the other thread...I am pretty sure that I am missing the point. But from what I understood....So when you do 10 wraps with a 28awg wire and get 1.6ohms and lets say you do 4 compact wraps of 32awg to get the same resistance..... are you saying you get a better vape with the 28g wire? My experience is the complete opposite...In this case the 32g will run circles around the 28g wire. The 28g wire will be so slow to respond...you will have to press your button for two seconds before vaping just to start it up. This forum is filled with post of people who use 28g wire on their lava tubes/vamo/provari(v1) and are disappointed on how unresponsive it is. It is not that the wire is unresponsive (actually it is super responsive) ...it is that they made ten wraps just to get it working on their device. The heat sink effect kills it. You would have to vape it at very high wattage for it be comparable to the 4 wrap 32 awg coil in terms of responsiveness.

When I want to do a mellower, richer vape...I use 30g Kanthal...6wraps to make my coil. But it is still not as responsive as the 32g ...4 wrap coil....even though both are 1.6ohms. So If you had made your case with 30g wire I would understand but 28g wire is way too unresponsive at ten or eleven wraps. Maybe you are just talking about taste and not responsiveness or overall vape....I don't know...if you could please clarify.

 

[JD1]

....Any advise to get thicker vapor?

This guy seems to be getting a lot of vapor. (He cracked me up at the end when he takes a couple of drags and starts coughing and trying to say how smooth it was at the same time.) GG Odysseus Dual Mesh Resistance coils at .7 ohms Highlander Build - YouTube

Something you might try just for fun. Put a wedge of cotton behind your coil, just loose and barely touching the coil. Wet it good and set it aside for a couple of hours to let the cotton expand and push up against the coil a little. I tried that at about 15 watts and got loads of vapor and no scorching at all. I didn't like it because it was too strong, but the right word here is strong, not harsh. I'm liking it at about 5 watts. Probably not a permanent solution for you though because of the dripping to keep it wet.

One more that works way better that it looks is the spin-E method as shown in this picture. I have one of my diDalikes set up this way now and it really produces good vapor. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...nt-cottons-different-wicks-7.html#post8220059

 

[darthkir]

Will increasing the size of my airhole improves vapor production?

 

[Azphat12]

A very simple way to add vapor?
Maybe try a 50/50 blend of juice next time....

That will add vapor without modifying your equipment.
Buy a sample size for a few dollars on your next order and see if you like it.

 

[gdeal]

Gdeal I am not sure I get your OP in the other thread...I am pretty sure that I am missing the point. But from what I understood....So when you do 10 wraps with a 28awg wire and get 1.6ohms and lets say you do 4 compact wraps of 32awg to get the same resistance..... are you saying you get a better vape with the 28g wire? My experience is the complete opposite...In this case the 32g will run circles around the 28g wire. The 28g wire will be so slow to respond...you will have to press your button for two seconds before vaping just to start it up. This forum is filled with post of people who use 28g wire on their lava tubes/vamo/provari(v1) and are disappointed on how unresponsive it is. It is not that the wire is unresponsive (actually it is super responsive) ...it is that they made ten wraps just to get it working on their device. The heat sink effect kills it. You would have to vape it at very high wattage for it be comparable to the 4 wrap 32 awg coil in terms of responsiveness.

When I want to do a mellower, richer vape...I use 30g Kanthal...6wraps to make my coil. But it is still not as responsive as the 32g ...4 wrap coil....even though both are 1.6ohms. So If you had made your case with 30g wire I would understand but 28g wire is way too unresponsive at ten or eleven wraps. Maybe you are just talking about taste and not responsiveness or overall vape....I don't know...if you could please clarify.

Yes I was talking more about taste and evenness of vape flavor. I was not really posting on start-up times or battery limitations. The more you can evenly distribute wire heat over a mesh surface to reach vaporization, the smoother and truer to flavor the vape can be. IMO The time to get your coil/wick surface to temp will increase and is a limitation and trade-off. So if you want "instant-on" 11 wraps of 28g is not gonna cut-it. I am more in your range of coil wraps for better startup time. 11 wraps was a big PITA to do, but when it got up to temp, it was a very nice chain vape experience .

Another thought here is that experience also depends upon your juice type too.. right? Tobacco flavors can do real well with more concentrated heat. The edgyness of a lower ohm 34g wire can actually enhance the flavor. If you using something a bit less complex and softer, it may just taste burnt on the same set-up....

Hope that helped clarify.