What would you like to see in a Ejuice supplier

[Ice199]

It'd best be the latter as I don't tend to buy without Paypal!

VG is pretty important to me, as PG and I don't get along.

A good variety of strengths. I'd like to be able to "step down" without worrying about cutting my own liquid and diluting the flavors.

I would have to agree with you on that one. No PayPal no sale. No everybody is comfortable putting their credit card information on some of these sites. Some do the4 encryption but I am not so sure.

 

[RazorNribbonz]

Speaking of listing the ingredients..I recieved a bottle of e-liquid today from a china supplier...They had listed the main ingrdients, you know- nic,PG, water, flavorings and "so on"...So on? wtf is that lmao...Well at least they attempted :: lil laugh

 

[Reverend Damien Caine]

You responded to previous posts, but seemed to selectively skip mine. Obviously you are not going to say where you are based or whether you plan to list your ingredients on the smoking juice bottles. Too bad, I am always looking for an up-front supplier.

Chef, didn't mean to appear selective, was just alot of posts coming in, and I had to get on the road.

First, We're currently located in Clarksville TN for the moment, we may possibly move operations to Nashville at a later date.

Ingredients will be listed, Listing method will be in order of quantity such as is common in both food and inactive ingredients in OTC medication. I'm not sure when this will go onto the bottles, or if it will at all, we are leaning more towards posting it on the boxes we will eventually be incorporating. All information on each recipe will be posted on website for sure.

 

[Reverend Damien Caine]

For me would be:
Rich, creative flavor blends (like a Clove and Cream) and Seasonal flavors (wouldn't a spiced gingerbread vape be cool around December?) because sometimes I like to spoil me

Descriptions of flavors you make up names for (if you come up with Sweet Moroccan Sunrise or Venitian Vape I'm gonna want to know). At least give clues. I had to buy RY4 to figure it out and I still don't know what 555 is.

Season flavors have been discussed, lots of testing being done to create new flavors for this reason.

Will definitely try to represent name and flavor link within description. There has been discussion of naming contests for flavors that taste good, but we cant associate it with a flavor, having a name the mystery flavor contest.

 

[Reverend Damien Caine]

In addition to many of the things already mentioned, transpaency on your production methods - eg photographs of the lab and clean room; lab reports on the ingredients / vapour, etc

Unfortunately the information on the production process will be limited for intellectual property reasons, we will provide as much information as possible without violating our trade secrets. So your not worried about this, alot of R&D went into our mixers, there is 0% chance of contamination of our mixers due to the unique design, of course once we have completed patents on these, we will gladly provide info on them.

Our safety system is another unique innovation that we cannot reveal, granted it has nothing to do with the final product, and everything to do with the safety of those whom work daily with the product.

Toxicology reports will be posted on our website as they become available.

 

[Reverend Damien Caine]

Stock some unflavored in 36mg for those of us who like to flavor our own. If you sell for a reasonable price, I will spend a lot of money with you.........

Unflavored e-juice will be offered in the strengths out lined previously in this thread. 0 6 12 18 24 30 36

 

[Cisco]

Sample packs/kits are a must, Nice kit with everything you need to load, re-load, and so on. Johnson Creek sells an awesome sample kit with everything you need.

No paypal no sale, for me paypal is much easier then giving my credit card info to another someone from somewhere.

0-nic juice at a lower price then leaded juice. For me I have some e-liquid flavors that are 36mg which is to high for me, if I cut them I will lose the flavor. So If I could mix 50/50 0mg and 36mg of the same flavor now I have a usable 18mg juice without any flavor loss.

Discounts for larger purchases

And last......stock,stock,stock


Cisco...

 

[Reverend Damien Caine]

I think mixing supplies like bottles of PG and VG. Also an assortment of small dripper bottles.
Its nice to have a one stop juice supplier.

Cutting supplies and instructions will eventually be available. We started with the idea of doing just that, selling 36mg and cutting supplies, concept evolved however into more strength options, with cutting to come later.

 

[Reverend Damien Caine]

and for me... LARGE BOTTLES , if i find a flavor i like i want A LOT of it , truevapor.com sells 30ml bottles of my favorite Mar-Bro thankfully

Outside of sampler bottles, we will likely offer 30ml and 50 ml, other bottle sizes are being considered as well, but these are the only ones were solid on.

 

[Reverend Damien Caine]

Speaking of listing the ingredients..I recieved a bottle of e-liquid today from a china supplier...They had listed the main ingrdients, you know- nic,PG, water, flavorings and "so on"...So on? wtf is that lmao...Well at least they attempted :: lil laugh

The generic listing of flavorings is used often when protecting the specific recipe. Complicated trying to provide all ingredients without giving away a unique flavor combination.

 

[Sumratio]

Toxicology reports ... I am glad you brought that up. I was getting disappointed that no was bringing science and testing into your question. We NEED our suppliers to do some research to defend this industry. I have faith just from existing studies vaping is relatively safe but science to back up the faith is always a plus and a must. Glass dark bottles like Totally Wicked are well ... totally wicked since we know the stuff is light sensitive. Plastic would be fine for smaller sampler bottles I think though. All the other common sense stuff is great too ... service, supply, variety, safety, price all are important. The best of luck to you and thank God someone has the balls to push foward in these troubling times.

 

[Reverend Damien Caine]

Sample packs/kits are a must, Nice kit with everything you need to load, re-load, and so on. Johnson Creek sells an awesome sample kit with everything you need.

No paypal no sale, for me paypal is much easier then giving my credit card info to another someone from somewhere.

0-nic juice at a lower price then leaded juice. For me I have some e-liquid flavors that are 36mg which is to high for me, if I cut them I will lose the flavor. So If I could mix 50/50 0mg and 36mg of the same flavor now I have a usable 18mg juice without any flavor loss.

Discounts for larger purchases

And last......stock,stock,stock


Cisco...

Obviously from the posts we need to offer a sampler pack, this has been noted and were working on it. I do not for see a starter kit right off the bat, but later....

We will be going with paypal initially, later we will add the ability to purchase directly with credit card as well.

Regarding 0 nic juice, it is doubtful that we will be offering this at a discounted price as nicotine cost per bottle is minuscule. It has not been ruled out though, just do not expect huge savings with 0nic.

Stock is not an issue, and we are working on bulk sales and/or the potential of supplying other distributors.

 

[Vee]

I'm no seasoned e-cig person yet and have only dealt with 3 vendors so far. But, I'll list the things that I've seen other sites offer that I have been really impressed with... the list in priority is:

1. Toxicology report. Not buying it without one. Preferably stating what flavor was tested as well. Would be nice to see an analysis done on the mixture in vaporized form. Also, ingredients on bottle.
2. Shipped in dark bottles, labeled correctly, and child-proofed.
3. Sample pack of all flavors you sell.
4. Up to the minute email updates on order status.
5. VG option (ppl who are allergic to PG won't care if it leaves residue or not heh)
6. 800 number
7. Online chat link on your website for questions
8. Lots of shipping options. Cheap 2-day air.
9. Take CCs directly, not just PayPal. (Strong SSL cert).

Just my opinion. IMO, you're off to a great start just by having this thread.

 

[pineneedle]

a good supply on hand, what Ladycats said

 

[Reverend Damien Caine]

Toxicology reports ... I am glad you brought that up. I was getting disappointed that no was bringing science and testing into your question. We NEED our suppliers to do some research to defend this industry. I have faith just from existing studies vaping is relatively safe but science to back up the faith is always a plus and a must. Glass dark bottles like Totally Wicked are well ... totally wicked since we know the stuff is light sensitive. Plastic would be fine for smaller sampler bottles I think though. All the other common sense stuff is great too ... service, supply, variety, safety, price all are important. The best of luck to you and thank God someone has the balls to push forward in these troubling times.

Your thinking is inline with ours. Toxicology reports posted on a suppliers website are somewhat of an open challenge to FDA and other Antivapers. It is a matter of openly defending our product.

Sample bottles will be small plastic most likely, larger were looking at dark glass (though a little different from others I have seen). Yes, light destroy nicotine, air destroys nicotine, water destroys nicotine (and I don't mean it becomes diluted, it allows for a greater rate of oxidation).

As you might guess, we are gearing up for the long haul, this means our reputation will be everything to us, as is the preparation for regulations on the product. Of course if it ever ends up getting a out right ban.... expect a 'fire sale'!

 

[omrebel]

Small sample bottles that can be ordered individually just to try out the different juices.

 

[Sumratio]

beautiful RDC I think you guys are the right path and I am anxiously waiting your debut

 

[Reverend Damien Caine]

I'm no seasoned e-cig person yet and have only dealt with 3 vendors so far. But, I'll list the things that I've seen other sites offer that I have been really impressed with... the list in priority is:

1. Toxicology report. Not buying it without one. Preferably stating what flavor was tested as well. Would be nice to see an analysis done on the mixture in vaporized form. Also, ingredients on bottle.
2. Shipped in dark bottles, labeled correctly, and child-proofed.
3. Sample pack of all flavors you sell.
4. Up to the minute email updates on order status.
5. VG option (ppl who are allergic to PG won't care if it leaves residue or not heh)
6. 800 number
7. Online chat link on your website for questions
8. Lots of shipping options. Cheap 2-day air.
9. Take CCs directly, not just PayPal. (Strong SSL cert).

Just my opinion. IMO, you're off to a great start just by having this thread.

We plan on releasing toxicology reports on all flavors, it will however take time as we do have a large assortment of flavors.

 

[Reverend Damien Caine]

Alright all, don't think I am ignoring anyone if I do not respond immediately. I need to unwind abit away from the PC. Please continue with your posts and I shall pick this back up tomorrow. I appreciate all the input, we have a meeting this Saturday and I will be printing this thread to bring with.

Thanks again!

 

[Darth.Vapor]

Useful Labels please !! I have just spent the past 30 mins with my label maker, trawling through old emails to make labels for all my bottles stating:

* Where I got it (site name),
* Strength (Actual mg's, not just saying high or med... That is different depending where you shop),
* Size ml's (Not always sure due to different size/shape bottles)
* Flavor
* Maybe some basic ingredients

It is amazing how many bottles I have with barely any info on them... Or those with labels that are unreadable due to the bottles leaking when being shipped and making the labels ink illegible!!

If I try some liquid and really like it, I don't want to have to try and remember which one of the many sites I have ordered from that sent that one, I would like to just look at the bottle and know ! Don't need anything fancy... Just plain basic labels that won't fall off easily etc...

Ps: The fact you are doing this thread and caring about what we want means you have my business already