Whats a good first rebuildable system?

[Vaslovik]

Since none of those acronyms show up on this forum with the dotted line underneat and the explanation when you hover over it, I'd say it feels like the jury's still open on those acronyms!

I beg to differ sir.

The use of rda to refer to a dripping atomizer distinguishes it from all other rebuildables, and establishes rba's as other than rda's, and more specifically as genesis atomizers. An RDA is a dripper and you full well know it.

That said, I take exception to those who take liberties with acronyms in order to pepper those new to rebuildables with pro-dripper propaganda in those threads in which they (the new vapers) state an interest in RBA's. It has long annoyed me that the dripping fanatics do this, and you may expect me to oppose this practice in the future.

In my own experience dripping atomizers are in no way superior to genesis atomizers, and in fact leave a good deal to be desired.

 

[bosun]

Why not call a rebuildable with a tank an RTA? Rebuildable Tank Atomizer..

 

[emus]

Why not call a rebuildable with a tank an RTA? Rebuildable Tank Atomizer..

I'd sign that RTA petition but I fear RTA is off limits except for an elusive animal

 

[edyle]

I beg to differ sir.

The use of RDA to refer to a dripping atomizer distinguishes it from all other rebuildables, and establishes RBA's as other than RDA's, and more specifically as genesis atomizers. An RDA is a dripper and you full well know it.

That said, I take exception to those who take liberties with acronyms in order to pepper those new to rebuildables with pro-dripper propaganda in those threads in which they (the new vapers) state an interest in RBA's. It has long annoyed me that the dripping fanatics do this, and you may expect me to oppose this practice in the future.

In my own experience dripping atomizers are in no way superior to genesis atomizers, and in fact leave a good deal to be desired.

Personally I wish people wouldn't bring up driping in the new members section either.

I do wish we could get more of these acronyms included in the set that show on the mouseover; I didn't explicit that in what I said but it was what I was pointing at.

 

[edyle]

Why not call a rebuildable with a tank an RTA? Rebuildable Tank Atomizer..

Well I know the sentiment certainly; but I think for what I think you are thinking .. might as well drop the Atomizer.

Just : RBT : ReBuildable Tank.

But then again some sites selling stuff call tanks 'rebuildable' based on the fact you can buy and replace the atomiser

 

[albcig]

RDA-RBA-RTA aside forget about ss mesh attys and get a kayfun. you wont regret it. pocket friendly unlike a RBA, and has a tank unlike a RDA. so just get a kayfun

 

[emus]

RDA-RBA-RTA aside forget about ss mesh attys and get a kayfun. you wont regret it. pocket friendly unlike a RBA, and has a tank unlike a RDA. so just get a kayfun

I have the Aqua clone which shares some KFL features.
Has it's pros and cons.
I prefer Genesis inspired devices.

 

[edyle]

RDA-RBA-RTA aside forget about ss mesh attys and get a kayfun. you wont regret it. pocket friendly unlike a RBA, and has a tank unlike a RDA. so just get a kayfun

So wait a minute, you wouldn't call a Kayfun an RBA just because it's not a topcoil like a genesis? I noticed Vaslovik said something like that too:

establishes RBA's as other than RDA's, and more specifically as genesis atomizers

 

[albcig]

no! what i meant was that aside from what you call them, the one mos likely to match the thread title "Whats a good first rebuildable system?" is the kayfun. my first RBA was an AGA-t some 1 year and a half ago. i own many RBA's and i don't use them anymore. the ones i use are the kayfun and some small cheap RDA's from china. for a first time quasi all inclusive rebuildable i would suggest the kayfun (or the squape) but definitely not a ss mesh device cause i've read to many threads with "Help me what i'm doing wrong" title.

 

[ConradM]

RDA-RBA-RTA aside forget about ss mesh attys and get a kayfun. you wont regret it. pocket friendly unlike a RBA, and has a tank unlike a RDA. so just get a kayfun

Maybe it's my juice but I have no concerns about my RSST leaking.

 

[vapdivrr]

i would recommend a kayfun type device as well. imo they are just a little more consistent then a genesis atty. both are awesome devices, both produce great flavor and vapor. i think the kayfun types have a few advantages though, one the juice stays fresher, two they don't tend to leak and for the most part are easier to set up. so my advice is a kayfun type device instead of a genesis.

 

[alkaiser]

definitely a kayfun/russian

easy to build, no fuss, no leaks (if built right), great flavor, great vapor, lots of interchangeable parts

 

[sinistergentlemen]

I just got my youde agi today and it's my first ever rda/rba and for a noob to it only took minor tinkering to remove the hot spot using it as an rba will be using it as an rda when I pick up some cotton. Now I just need a mech mod.


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[Wickeddeuce]

ok, i am getting in on this debate, and before i do, let me don my fireproof suit... to be technical, a rba is a ReBuildable Atomizer. This should encompass drippers, gennies, kayfuns, everything, as they are all ReBuildable a dripper can be further specified as a RDA Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer... I believe we should back the RTA acronym for Kayfun style RBAs, I feel we could lump Gennies in there too as they have a tank, but then we must further differentiate between gennies and bottom coil style rtas... so i guess we could lump them as RTAs and further differentiate by referring to them as Gennies(genesis) and BC, or we could just keep RTAs for Kayfun style BCs and refer to Gennies just as gennies...

but my main point is a RBA would be any rebuildable atomizer so anyone referring to an aga, a trident, a kayfun, etc etc etc as a rba is not wrong...

now bring on the i just had to put my in on the subject

for my sake can we all just keep calm and vape on...

 

[supertrunker]

I'm not feeling the love for genesis types, and they are a nuisance and time consuming to set up compared to say - 4 wraps around a bit of silica - go!

I like RDAs because it's hard to imagine fresher juice than straight out of the bottle onto a coil, rather than sitting around all day heating up and cooling down until it looks like tar in a tank.

If the last coil i had broke just now, i'd not spend 15 minutes with a blowtorch messing with that gear to get it right. I'd use what i do now, where a coil is a 5 minute affair fitted and vaping.

RTA is a good suggestion - i have a Fogger coming, My 2c - anything you make coils for is an RBA, the rest vary by usage.

T

 

[Nailz]

I got the RSST and AGA at the same time for my 1st RTA's (if that what people want them called ) I can't say there is that much difference in doing a single coil on them, I actually prefer the screw on the positive on the AGA to the spring on the RSST, few times I have thought I had coil wire under that washer with spring, when I haven't.

Also same setup 1.1ohm 28 gauge micro coil with organic cotton on the RSST and AGA, and the vape is miles better on the AGA, there is more flavor and get a warm vape with the AGA.

In hind site, I would of never got the RSST, but I have not quite given up with it yet, still trying different builds with it.

 

[emus]

I'm not feeling the love for genesis types, and they are a nuisance and time consuming to set up compared to say - 4 wraps around a bit of silica - go!

I like RDAs because it's hard to imagine fresher juice than straight out of the bottle onto a coil, rather than sitting around all day heating up and cooling down until it looks like tar in a tank.

If the last coil i had broke just now, i'd not spend 15 minutes with a blowtorch messing with that gear to get it right. I'd use what i do now, where a coil is a 5 minute affair fitted and vaping.

RTA is a good suggestion - i have a Fogger coming, My 2c - anything you make coils for is an RBA, the rest vary by usage.

T

I'm head over heals in love w/ Genny after messing around w/ Aqua

 

[supertrunker]

I'm head over heals in love w/ Genny after messing around w/ Aqua

i bet!

T

 

[steel bender]

ok, i am getting in on this debate, and before i do, let me don my fireproof suit... to be technical, a rba is a ReBuildable Atomizer. This should encompass drippers, gennies, kayfuns, everything, as they are all ReBuildable a dripper can be further specified as a RDA Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer... I believe we should back the RTA acronym for Kayfun style RBAs, I feel we could lump Gennies in there too as they have a tank, but then we must further differentiate between gennies and bottom coil style rtas... so i guess we could lump them as RTAs and further differentiate by referring to them as Gennies(genesis) and BC, or we could just keep RTAs for Kayfun style BCs and refer to Gennies just as gennies...

but my main point is a RBA would be any rebuildable atomizer so anyone referring to an aga, a trident, a kayfun, etc etc etc as a rba is not wrong...

now bring on the i just had to put my in on the subject

for my sake can we all just keep calm and vape on...

I like this - mostly. But why not drop the b from rba for Rebuildable Atomizer. Then you could use rba for Rebuildable Bottomcoil Atomizer. RGA for Rebuildable Genesis Atomizer. Yes, I know I made a post about this recently and took a little heat for it, and deleted the post, but then I was making a statement. Now this is more like a suggestion? Umm no, not really, lol, you wanna talk about confusion, changing the meaning of something "established" would only make it worse.

 

[Miata GT]

Wasn't until recently... Smoktech Pyrex RSST Rebuildable RBA w/ Drip Tip They will be available sometime this month. There are some that have hit a few B&M's that i've heard of, but not available online yet.

After just rebuilding my first RDA, the Scar, and my first RTA, a genuine Kayfun Lite, I would strongly suggest th Kayfun (or good clone). It was worlds easier to work with and hits like a train. I couldn't be more pleased.

That said I read this thread with interest as I would like to try an RBA and was looking at the RSST. What wick would be suggested for this? If SS mesh, is 400 recommended? Thanks!