Whats best cheapest E-cig to ween you off to quit completely?

[mohawkx]

NOPE, Nada, Never Zip ! - I'm not like that besides I could just refer anyone to the site itself. But I like your paranoia - keeps you on your toes.

I still haven't ordered yet, but I am now committed to the Riva 510 SE. I'm just hung up on Juices. I am trying to find the cheapest nicotine juice in a large bottle i can afford, some tools for the DIY method, about 3 bottles of different flavors and the PG and VG - My budget will not allow me to vape doing it any other way - i need these supplies to be around 40 bucks and have enough to last for 3 months!

So I'm still taking my time and doing research - this place is huge and there are so many different opinions.

And Yes.. I have read about e cigs for months and have friends who have used them. I was convinced long ago that this was way better than cigs. I wanted to join a local ecig group in my area and there isn't any so I thought I'd start my own.

I'm frustrated because it's taking me so long to find all the right answers so I can order.. I dying to quit smoking and start vaping!!!

BTW.. I didn't say I was posting on my own website. I said I was Making an e-cig group website. Big difference.. it's not up yet.

Just because I haven't yet started my product, does not mean I cannot be involved in spreading the good news about e-cigs. I am in no way, shape or form trolling for information for my own gain other than to learn about e-cigs and start using them.

mohawkx

Your right.. That was my plan.. to stop in one month. But - I realized that was not realistic and as long as I could continue to afford the juice I could keep vaping and perhaps just cut down on the nicotine level - you see when I started this.. I didn't think I could afford to keep vaping, so I thought i'd just use it to quit for good. But now that I see financially that I think I CAN continue to vape, ( found out about DIY juice) i'm going to try that and work my nicotine levels down more slowly.

That's why I haven't posted in this thread in a couple of days - I have learned more and have been researching changing my strategy.

I think you made a wise decision to go with the Riva 510SE. I believe that system will work great for you. I wish you the best of luck and good fortune in your strategy to rid yourself of cigarettes. Happy Trails, John

 

[Bozzlite]

Whats best cheapest E-cig to ween you off to quit completely?

I thought I'd try using an e-cig to quite smoking for good. I thought I used to see kits that ween you off so you could quit forever but I cannot find them now.

Cost is of course an issue. E-cigs are expensive. I just need to purchase this product long enough to quit for good. I know the e-cig companies don't want this - they still want to keep you addicted to nicotine so they make money off of you but I was sure i had seen kits like I describe.

Does anyone know?

OK, "Best" and "Cheapest" do not go together. An oxymoron if you will.

But, if you must. The best and cheapest is from Liberty-flights.com

Order the Riva 510. Click on the 20% discount at the top of the web page.

For less than $35.00 you can get 2 complete E-cigs, with charger and attys and carts.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I went back and re-read the link I put in one of my last posts here.....here is a quote straight outta his mouth. And I am not paranoid, just .......
sas
from this link at ecf........http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-working-e-cigarettes-rights.html#post3055589

JohnPhoenix wrote in that link
"I have started a website to be online soon for the New Orleans Electronic Cigarette Association - since there was no one active in my area doing such work. Many growing chapters in local areas will help nationalism of these products and our intentions. The more people band together locally the faster the agencies and companies will come to accept that we are not going away and they need to accept E-cigarettes."

 

[John Phoenix]

I went back and re-read the link I put in one of my last posts here.....here is a quote straight outta his mouth. And I am not paranoid, just .......
sas
from this link at ecf........http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-working-e-cigarettes-rights.html#post3055589

JohnPhoenix wrote in that link
"I have started a website to be online soon for the New Orleans Electronic Cigarette Association - since there was no one active in my area doing such work. Many growing chapters in local areas will help nationalism of these products and our intentions. The more people band together locally the faster the agencies and companies will come to accept that we are not going away and they need to accept E-cigarettes."

Yes. That's Right - Nothing to be ...... about. Did you also see my thread here?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...cal-chapters-electronic-cigarette-groups.html

I will quote from that thread: ( information taken from several post in the thread - please read whole thread to see that my context is correct - they are posted in order)

I just spent a lot of time searching for local chapters of Electronic Cigarette Groups or associations in my state and city areas. ( I'm in the USA)

There are none that I can find!

Even though I'm just now about to actually buy my first starter kit, I have been reading about e-cigs for the past 2 years and have had friends who use them. I have from first hearing about e-cigs researched health information about them and have agreed that this was The Product smokers everywhere had been waiting for.

And

I propose local (state and city) chapters are needed. We could organize events to help educate people, companies and state and city agencies about the benefits of tobacco smokers switching to E-cigarettes or Personal vaporizers.

If we had such chapters active and growing in every state, major (or minor) U.S. city this would greatly help to educate the government agencies to KNOW that this is something smoking consumers want. If enough of the American people want e-cigarettes they will not be able to stop the sales. (I know I am preaching to the choir.)

I'm thinking about creating my cities first Electronic Cigarette Association.

I propose each local chapter be true to The Truth and act accordingly.

What do you guys think?

And

I have started building my website for the, New Orleans Electronic Cigarette Association
(no one else was doing it so I jumped on it) I will update this post when it's online. I plan to post information about it in local forums and gather interested persons. This "NOECA" will serve the Greater New Orleans Area which includes the New Orleans, Metairie and Kenner areas.

see - that's My soon to be new group I made it up! I just created it!

And

I do think I will continue to build my New Orleans Electronic Cigarette Association website. I am going to put it up under my other group umbrella called NOCIG - New Orleans Cessation Information Group.

NOCIG - New Orleans Cessation Information Group - I also made that up! I wanted to make my website with a catchy name that's easy to remember - I could not do that with New Orleans Electronic Cigarette Association - it didn't work too well as NOECA. I thought NOCIG was better.

Quite simply since I could find no e-cig groups in my area through a google search ( and had not as of this time seen the Local groups forum on ECF) I decided to make one for my area.

I saw a need and sought to fill it.

Why would you be ...... about that?

Also on this page: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-working-e-cigarettes-rights.html#post3055589 The Very first thing I said was,

In time to come you may find more info in my thread here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...te-groups.html

In this thread I propose people start local chapters (state and city) of E-cig groups or associations to help educate the people and agencies in their areas about the benefits of e-cigarettes.

The idea about posting that in THAT thread was to hint to the poster that He or She themselves, could help make a difference.

Many growing chapters in local areas will help nationalism of these products and our intentions. [meaning the intentions of all of e-cig users to keep using them and to not see them get banned.] The more people band together locally the faster the agencies and companies will come to accept that we are not going away and they need to accept E-cigarettes.

So.. again, I ask you.. what's to be ...... about?

I believe you thought I was a member of an already established e- cigarette association and I was here trolling. That's not so, I just created those groups.

I believe you mistakenly read something, took it out of context and blew it out of proportion. No harm done, but I did want you to know the truth. We are all in this fight together my friend.

 

[mohawkx]

Yes. That's Right - Nothing to be ...... about. Did you also see my thread here?
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...cal-chapters-electronic-cigarette-groups.html

I will quote from that thread: ( information taken from several post in the thread - please read whole thread to see that my context is correct - they are posted in order)



And



And

see - that's My soon to be new group I made it up! I just created it!

And


NOCIG - New Orleans Cessation Information Group - I also made that up! I wanted to make my website with a catchy name that's easy to remember - I could not do that with New Orleans Electronic Cigarette Association - it didn't work too well as NOECA. I thought NOCIG was better.

Quite simply since I could find no e-cig groups in my area through a google search ( and had not as of this time seen the Local groups forum on ECF) I decided to make one for my area.

I saw a need and sought to fill it.

Why would you be ...... about that?

Also on this page: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-working-e-cigarettes-rights.html#post3055589 The Very first thing I said was,

The idea about posting that in THAT thread was to hint to the poster that He or She themselves, could help make a difference.



So.. again, I ask you.. what's to be ...... about?

I believe you thought I was a member of an already established e- cigarette association and I was here trolling. That's not so, I just created those groups.

I believe you mistakenly read something, took it out of context and blew it out of proportion. No harm done, but I did want you to know the truth. We are all in this fight together my friend.

You could encounter difficulties forming an advocacy group about a subject which you know nothing about, but good luck to you, sir.

 

[Secti0n31]

Good luck John, and I really hope you enjoy your Riva. If you want a really solid "analog" flavor Go with freedomsmokeusa's burley tobacco. If you want menthol I recommend Dekang Sam mint. Neither really appeal to me because it's been so long since I smoked real cigs that anything with a "real cig" flavor tastes like an ashtray.

Enjoy man, and Keep us in the loop as to how it works out for you. I think you'll enjoy it.

 

[John Phoenix]

mohawkx,

If I waited for an e-cig expert to do it I might be waiting a long time LOL. It's not a subject I know nothing about. I am getting more versed in it all the time. Besides, by the time I have some members I will know a lot more and we will all learn from each other - that's what it's all about.

 

[mohawkx]

mohawkx,

If I waited for an e-cig expert to do it I might be waiting a long time LOL. It's not a subject I know nothing about. I am getting more versed in it all the time. Besides, by the time I have some members I will know a lot more and we will all learn from each other - that's what it's all about.

Grass roots man, grass roots.

 

[John Phoenix]

Secti0n31,

Thanks. I'm starting off with the Marlboro type flavor from freedomsmokeusa cus the stuff I want isn't in yet - I have to wait for they get the shipment before I order. I will be getting 50 ML of nicotine juice for 17 bucks. Best deal I've found so far but they are all flavored -http://www.easy-eliquid.com/categories/Hangsen-liquid-nicotine/ I'm still looking for the dirt cheap non flavored so I can mix my own.

Currently having trouble trying to pay Liberty Flights, You may see my other thread about it.

 

[John Phoenix]

HI Welcome! I know U have figured some of this out already But
I would like to attempt a few suggestions (MHO) here w/out writing a novel & sounding to .....y even tho it is probably not possible.

I agree w/the others ... order a Riva/510 lite bundle ...click on the us flag @ the top of the page & get the discount. & YES the SE is a better batt . there is a noticeable diff between 3.2 & 3.7,more substantial vape,warmer/heavier not as light/airy ?? hard to explain .

I know this sounds pushy of us...But U asked & we are trying to save U $$ & frustration !! That we have been thru. You could always look at it this way RIVA's have a resale value !!

& please understand when we say riva or ego...etc we are just talking about the "branding" of the batteries here ....when we say mAh we are talking size/charge time held. ie: the Riva's in that kit are 750mAh they also make 900mAh.1100mAh& 1300mAh ...I do believe.

& when we say 510/901/401/801 we are talking about the "threading" on the batterys. which is important cuz that signifies what will be compatable to that battery.
IE: attomizers or cartomizers or tank systems etc...
& everyone has different preferences to those. & these are all disposable !

thats why it is suggested to start w/a kit,which will have some kind of atty/cart or carto with it.

& why we suggest you get the other option also,when you order your kit. Cuz there is no way to no which one you will like better & either will die & at least U will have the other option to use while U wait on replacements.

another tip ...get the steel version,easier to keep clean & no chipped paint! Sleek look ...ooops nope sold out ...black is in tho

Then go & find some e-juice,

maybe go look @ voidmist.com .
they are running a 40% off sale till the 25th ,
use code APR25_40%OFF ... great deal!

18 mg & 24 mg order small bottles @ first(there are sample packs out there)
+ U can just add VG from walmart to decrease the NIC strengths.

or watch the classifieds for a juice lot that has some flavors that might sound good to you.

Think about the candy or gum flavors U like, thats the closest reference point (I think) to vaping....not the kinds of tobacco U used ...

and please be aware that NO E-JUICE will taste anything like cigarettes or any other "burning tobacco" U have used in the past. tobacco e-juice are the flav.of raw tobacco,not burning tobacco & VERY YUCKY !! imho

So see ...that only touched on 3 or 4 of your questions ...e-cigs are WAY to deep to discuss in one post ...we have all spent hours & hours & hours reading & trying different things ...there really is NO EASY way to do this. You just have to jump in here & LEARN how to do it.

other suggested area's of forum to check out .... library, broke newbie videos<<Highly Recommended,nicotine,switching, health

I would also like to tell ya that I have spent less than $500 on e-cigs stuff in about 8 months & $100 or so was for DAD & I bet I spent $100 or so before I got my riva kits & all I have bought since then(NOV/DEC) is juice stuff (I DIY) & carto's/attys/tank attys.

Sorry for the super long my"Newbie Rant" post, hope something helped .

You right. You sound real .....y so I'm ignoring your post!

KIDDING!!!

No, not at all, in fact everyone on here has been very pleasant and a pleasure to seek advice from. I did see your post and meant to reply to it but I had a lot going on and forgot about it. I'm sorry.

You gave a lot of great info here. Thank you. Other option: you mean atty/cart and carto both? I thought about trying the carto's but my budget could not afford it at this time. I figured the SE kit and a bottle of juice would suffice for now.

I prefer the black version anyway - I'm not worried about the paint. If it last long enough I can always repaint it.

Yep your right. voidmist has great prices. I already ordered Marlboro flavored at 18 strength 30ML from freedomsmokeusa.com but i'll keep in in mind for my next bottle. I'll think fast about it to make the deadline for the discount.

On this page,
PG with Nicotine 60 mg/ml - Void Mist

There is a bottle with PG and nicotine juice mixed together. Good size and great price - But.. how dose this work if I am going to mix my own? Having the PG in it already is great but will I still be able to add my flavoring and VG to it to make the strength of 80pg/20vg? How do I account for the percentage of Pg in this mix?

Everyone says get flavors.. I am willing to try one or two but I haven't the foggiest clue what I think I might like. I'm hoping I will like the Marlboro flavor I ordered so I don't waste my cash. I know it wont taste the same as a cigarette - I'm mentally prepared for the worst. I'm a guy who loves to mix espresso coffee and coke-a-cola to drink so I think my taste buds can handle anything and I won't mind so much. ( it is really yummy if you mix in the right proportions but it's an acquired taste)

I have read some of the threads you suggested. I'm working my way through all of them. This site is almost as large as Abovetopsecret.com !

Nah, your post was fine. and yes, I'm sure a lot of it will help. Thanks!

 

[musiceqlslife21]

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