why is it so easy to quit smoking with the E-cig?

[darkling56]

I really wish I could say I got my ecig and was able to quit analogs quickly..........
I must be one of those who have a hard time giving up the analogs.

today I finally decided to try something different. I got me some patches........so now I am trying the patch with vaping 0 nic. I've been 5 hours now without a really strong urge to run out and get a pack. I am hoping this works for me.

I was puffing on the analog and then turn around and vape. I wasnt making much progress at all.

Wish me luck

Dark in da House

 

[Poeia]

Why? Because the reason I started will always be valid - it has positive effects on my health. SMOKING has lots of negative effects on my health, but NICOTINE is a whole different ball game. Nicotine is a valid potential treatment for lots of ailments. If you don't believe me, check out the research they're doing on nicotine's uses for everything from Parkinson's to mental illness to bowel disorders.

Unless you have one of those ailments, you are rationalizing. There is some evidence and ongoing research that nicotine helps with certain medical conditions. It also constricts your blood vessels and increases your blood pressure. There is some evidence that it has a negative effect on your cholesterol levels.

Basically, nicotine is like caffeine -- a moderate amount is fine. And nicotine without all the other ingredients in a cigarette is patently better for you than nicotine with them.

 

[Poeia]

I really wish I could say I got my ecig and was able to quit analogs quickly..........
I must be one of those who have a hard time giving up the analogs.

today I finally decided to try something different. I got me some patches........so now I am trying the patch with vaping 0 nic. I've been 5 hours now without a really strong urge to run out and get a pack. I am hoping this works for me.

I was puffing on the analog and then turn around and vape. I wasnt making much progress at all.

Wish me luck

Dark in da House

What strength e-liquid were you vaping? Maybe you weren't getting enough nicotine. But if getting your nicotine transdermally while you satisfy your oral habit with a PV works for you, great.

I do, indeed, wish you luck.

 

[tarazarr]

It took me 3 days of puffing the e-cig before I trusted it and back down on cigarettes.. Good luck oh dark one.. Wishing you success

 

[banjo]

Take them away and my bet is 95% of us will find out we haven't quit anything really.... Just replaced smoking cigarettes with these devices.. and the same 95% of us would have a pack of smokes before the sun went down....

Well said! And, quite true.............

 

[darkling56]

What strength e-liquid were you vaping? Maybe you weren't getting enough nicotine. But if getting your nicotine transdermally while you satisfy your oral habit with a PV works for you, great.

I do, indeed, wish you luck.

I do believe that was part my problem....unable to get enough nic in my system without feeling loopy

I was vaping low levels......12 mg or so........16 mg ......one drag and I was loopy.......24 mg nic and I would cough like a banshee

I like almost no TH......so going 0 nic is fine for me

for some reason, I still get slightly loopy vaping even 0 nic......0nic all VG too.

I gotta be one of the wierd ones.

Dark in da House

 

[Automaton]

Unless you have one of those ailments, you are rationalizing. There is some evidence and ongoing research that nicotine helps with certain medical conditions. It also constricts your blood vessels and increases your blood pressure. There is some evidence that it has a negative effect on your cholesterol levels.

Basically, nicotine is like caffeine -- a moderate amount is fine. And nicotine without all the other ingredients in a cigarette is patently better for you than nicotine with them.

As a matter of fact, I do.

At 21, I am not highly concerned about the somewhat slight effects nicotine has on blood pressure or cholesterol. And you should see the kind of nasty side-effects the drugs the FDA wants to give me would cause. Slightly raised cholesterol? That's nothing. If I was taking their drugs, I'd probably be a diabetic with a twitch.

Addiction is bad, and should be avoided if possible. But... do you think many of the drugs the FDA sells aren't addictive? Including the ones they would have to offer me? Let's keep in mind they sell MAOI's and amphetamines. To children, no less.

Comparatively speaking, nicotine is a cake walk.

 

[D4rk50ul]

I didn't have time to smoke a real cigarette, I was too busy vaping and researching my next purchase of vaping equipment. By the time I realized I hadn't smoked, I was at 250 posts and had a tackle box full of stuff sitting next to me.

 

[SimpleSins]

I think it's "easy" (although it took me three weeks) because it does not require us to change anything to do without a cigarette. We still get our "fog", hand-mouth action, and inhaled nicotine. With a lot of addictions, until you're firmly rooted in your sobriety, you are encouraged to alter their lifestyles...lose the drunken/stoner friends, avoid circumstances where temptation may lie, seek out other coping mechanisms, etc. With the e-cig, there is no change necessary, unless you count the fact that you get your fix in the mail instead of the 7-11. We can still hang out with our smoking buddies, even if we can't stand the smell of them anymore.

So, to me at least, it's easy because I haven't really quit anything, I still have my nicotine inhalation addiction; I've just altered the way I deliver it to myself.

 

[solaar]

I like almost no TH......so going 0 nic is fine for me

for some reason, I still get slightly loopy vaping even 0 nic......0nic all VG too.

I gotta be one of the wierd ones.

Dark in da House

I think you're not the only 'weird' one

I'm apparently weird too but in the opposite direction. Smoking for me was 80% about throat hit and 20 about blowing smoke in the air. I realised this since I started vaping. I admit that I'm coming from French 'brunes' (Gitanes maïs, Gauloises etc). Relatively low nic but massive TH. In the first days of vaping I didn't get it quite right and had no subjective TH despite 24mg juice but I got really dizzy and close to nauseous. Nic overdose clearly. However the craving for my Gitane TH remained strong. I finally found the sweet spot with 8mg juice and excellent atties. I also exprimented with 0mg and various additives for TH but eventually got scared about inhaling stuff that I wasn't really sure about. I could go days without nic though as long as my throat was satisfied.

I reckon smoking is much more complex, especially psychologically, than commonly accepted.

Best of luck to you.

 

[Roxanne]

basically it boils down to 2 reasons...

Just saying be realistic... To truely walk free from the 2 fold addiction... we'll have to get our nic level down to 0 and then slowly ween ourselves of pluming huge clouds of nicontineless vapor..

I agree with you and that is my long term goal. For right now, this being my third day off cigarettes, I'm fine with using a substitute and tackling it in stages. That being said, i don't care if it takes me 5 months or 5 years. I'm not going to put stress on myself over it. I really never expected to enjoy this that much, and I'm actually having FUN with all the flavors and stuff. Who would have ever thought quitting could be fun???

 

[VicTweezy]

Today I found myself with a pack of Camels in one hand and my PV in the other, and decided to go with the PV almost all day. Main reason being that the PV has such a better taste. It's like having a freshly made mocha with me everywhere. Well, mocha with some grape, because that lingers forever in my atty. Time for a good cleaning I guess.

it puts the atty in the diet coke....

 

[Little Girl]

Today I found myself with a pack of Camels in one hand and my PV in the other, and decided to go with the PV almost all day. Main reason being that the PV has such a better taste.

Congratulations! I like to think that the moment in which we realize that we really are free of cigarettes is just as dramatic as the moment we all had when we realized we didn't just want them, but needed them. It's literally a life-changer. It's a pleasure to share the moment with you.

it puts the atty in the diet coke....

LOL - I don't know why, but this totally made my day.

 

[qwertylesh]

I think it's "easy" (although it took me three weeks) because it does not require us to change anything to do without a cigarette. We still get our "fog", hand-mouth action, and inhaled nicotine. With a lot of addictions, until you're firmly rooted in your sobriety, you are encouraged to alter their lifestyles...lose the drunken/stoner friends, avoid circumstances where temptation may lie, seek out other coping mechanisms, etc. With the e-cig, there is no change necessary, unless you count the fact that you get your fix in the mail instead of the 7-11. We can still hang out with our smoking buddies, even if we can't stand the smell of them anymore.

So, to me at least, it's easy because I haven't really quit anything, I still have my nicotine inhalation addiction; I've just altered the way I deliver it to myself.

^ I agree with this.
Its the delivery mechanism we have changed, the addiction through the nicotine and through the action of inhaling it still remains, which is what makes it easy for some and what makes it a capable change for others (less easy).
Its also what probably makes patches, gum and all that other actual quit aids less efficient and much much more difficult to stick to.

I am an addicted vaper, and its true I cannot stand the smell of cigarette or even the lingering smell when around a smoker whos recently had a cigarette.
I enjoy the additional areas I can vape where smokes cannot smoke, but am still addicted to a poisonous substance. its just the delivery which has changed and the nic source.

 

[Darkwitless]

I really wish I could say I got my ecig and was able to quit analogs quickly..........
I must be one of those who have a hard time giving up the analogs.

today I finally decided to try something different. I got me some patches........so now I am trying the patch with vaping 0 nic. I've been 5 hours now without a really strong urge to run out and get a pack. I am hoping this works for me.

I was puffing on the analog and then turn around and vape. I wasnt making much progress at all.

Wish me luck

Dark in da House

Good luck! Sounds like you're trying to cover your bases.

I had little problem switching over - But the end of day 2 when I went to smoke my "go to bed" analog and choked on the smoke, it became easier to not light the next one. The next night I tried again - don't ask why-slow learner I guess lol - and yuck! A couple of days later I felt the need for real smoke - and couldn't finish it. I've not touched one in 3 weeks and know that the couple I have left are sitting there getting stale!

 

[Jimbo52]

I think you're not the only 'weird' one

I'm apparently weird too but in the opposite direction. Smoking for me was 80% about throat hit and 20 about blowing smoke in the air. I realised this since I started vaping. I admit that I'm coming from French 'brunes' (Gitanes maïs, Gauloises etc). Relatively low nic but massive TH. In the first days of vaping I didn't get it quite right and had no subjective TH despite 24mg juice but I got really dizzy and close to nauseous. Nic overdose clearly. However the craving for my Gitane TH remained strong. I finally found the sweet spot with 8mg juice and excellent atties. I also exprimented with 0mg and various additives for TH but eventually got scared about inhaling stuff that I wasn't really sure about. I could go days without nic though as long as my throat was satisfied.

I reckon smoking is much more complex, especially psychologically, than commonly accepted.

Best of luck to you.

Have you ever found an E-juice similar to Gitanes, Gauloises, or Ducados? I'm searching for the flavor (& TH) of Tobacco Negro (Black Tobacco, Tabac Noir)!

 

[AttyPops]

Darkling56 ...everyone.... I do wish you luck.

Topic:
I'm not 100 percent convinced it is easy.... Just the easiest I've found so far.

I'm only a little over 3 months into it. Sometimes I get a cig craving. Yeah, and other people's smoking smells like crap too. And I STILL get occasional cravings. IDK. It's more than just the 2 issues for me. The nicotine craving can be solved a lot of ways. But, I think I "fall back" to e-cigs rather than cigs. And I do it many times a day. Like Mark Twain said "Quitting smoking is easy, I've done it hundreds of times."

We can modify that for e-cigs "Quitting smoking is easy, I do it tens of times per day." And it's not just the act.... But I think that vaping is a good enough substitute for the act and the nicotine that whatever else is missing ..... is tolerable. So far.

At least for me. Can't speak for everyone. Also, vaping doesn't work for everyone. Some come back to it later also. IDK. It's the best so far.

There may be a placebo effect for some also... since we were never sure what was in a tobacco cig anyway, we may not know what we are missing and just "substitute" for it psychologically.

Meh. Good luck to us all.

 

[Para]

No one ever said having a "Habit" was a bad thing.
Just that smoking was a bad habit.

Putting on your seatbelt is a Habit.
Just because something is a habit does not make it a bad thing.


Yes, I still have the habit of the hand to mouth inhale/exhale.

So what??

Habit sounds good, but we're addicts...and our drug of choice is nicotine

 

[Omny]

I found it incredibly easy to quit with my E Cig. I think its because, while having addictive qualities i have still been raised to look for harm prevention. I'm a bit geeky too so the idea of E Cigs immediately intrigued me. The whole idea of E Cigarettes is pretty amazing, and definitely a step forward. I almost got whiplash getting my wallet out to buy one and my bank account has been hating me ever since. (I know, cost is supposed to be one of the main benefits after health but its my E Cig Honeymoon.)

 

[RBommer]

basically it boils down to 2 reasons...

Smoking is a 2 part addiction....Nicotine addiction and the hand to mouth "Act" of smoking addiction....

Why is it so easy to quit smoking with the E-cig?

Because we do not have to address either addiction... We still get our nicotine and we still get to pretend we are smoking..... That old saying comes to mind...."You can't have your cake and eat it too.."

Take them away and my bet is 95% of us will find out we haven't quit anything really.... Just replaced smoking cigarettes with these devices.. and the same 95% of us would have a pack of smokes before the sun went down....

It's not a knock on e-cigs, they are surely better for us in many ways...

Just saying be realistic... To truely walk free from the 2 fold addiction... we'll have to get our nic level down to 0 and then slowly ween ourselves of pluming huge clouds of nicontineless vapor..

I don't agree. What's wrong with nicotine?

I personally don't have a problem with it. It's a drug I rank up there with caffeine or chocolate.

The only major problem with nicotine was the delivery system. The burning tobacco was harmful to the user and the people around them, not to mention smelly and dirty. Remove that, and nicotine is just like caffeine-- an addictive drug that serves a purpose. Just like caffeine-- and anything in life-- I believe it to be harmless if used in moderation.

I'm not saying I know vaping is totally safe-- truth is, we don't know. My logic tells me it is definitely safer than smoking; my educated guess tells me it's probably safe. But I'd love to see studies to confirm it for sure.

But let's say the act of vaping is found to be safe, and that nicotine consumption in moderation is shown to be harmless, then what? A logical person would say what's the harm? If you like consuming a harmless drug to calm your nerves or make you feel better, why not? I see no reason why not. We eat chocolate for the same reasons.

Heck, as far as drugs go, nicotine and caffeine are two of the best in the world: they psychologically alter you in a positive way; don’t impair your ability to function; don't make you fat; and in moderation, probably don’t harm you.

Personally, I'll see no problem with people vaping anywhere and everywhere. I won't care because there will be no reason to care.

Unfortunately, for many people (especially in America-- and yes, I'm an American), nicotine's reputation is marred by its association with tobacco. Add to that the Great American Search for Utopia, and you have a bunch of people who are anti-anything-that-even-vaguely-resembles smoking. To them, the act itself is "disgusting", even if all the traits that made it disgusting are gone.


It's similar to purifying sewer water to make it drinkable: some people will never want to drink it. Even if on a molecular level, it's no different than Perrier. It will always be sewer water to them.

I predict that if vaping is found to be safe, in 50 or 100 years people will be vaping the same way people in old movies were smoking: anywhere and everywhere.