What's next for a better vape? RBA's?

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The Hook

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Ok only been vaping for 5 weeks, I started with a couple 650 mah Ego bats with a Kanger T2. I have a couple ego type spinner bats now with Evods on them. I have 1.8 ohm wicks in my Evods and vape around 3.8 or 3.9 volts and use a couple tobacco flavor juices. I get a good vape when using my set up but I want more.

I just picked up an Itaste MVP with the Iclear 30 on it and so far so good. As I was talking with the guy at the local B&M shop telling him what I like, being a good throat hit and big cloud of vape, he told me I should look into getting a rba. He let me use his and I liked the way it vaped.

So my question is will I get a better vaping experience by getting into a RBA or should I just be happy with what I have? I'm pretty mechanically inclined and like to tinker with stuff.

I'm busy this weekend chasing my boys around so I might not be able to get back very quickly but I'll try. Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
 

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You could try a carto tank first.

A lot of people try cartos then write them off due to dry hits and poor performance then jump right into a clearo tank like the evod, nova or protank and dont even give the carto tanks a try.

Its shame IMO because they outperform all of the clearos in terms of flavor and ease of use.
 

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Pick up some wire and some wicking material and try to recoil your EVODs; apparently they are easy to rebuild and that will give you a glimpse into what RBAs are all about.

Like Alyssa above, most people who get into RBAs end up preferring that vaping experience over other delivery systems. Personally I lean more toward convenience (currently using replaceable heads with my EVODs), but I'll probably try building my own coils someday.
 

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I went in to my local shop by my office called Empire Vape - Norco, CA.

I was in your same exact spot, I was rocking an eGo Twist, was semi-pleased with it, moved up to an eVic with a Vivi Nova 1.8 head on it and loved the crap out of it!

I wanted to get into making my own coils, so I stopped by Empire Vape and asked the owner, where do I start w/ mech mods?

He pointed to a Kamery k100 w/ a Igo-W.

Then he began to show me step by step (using 28g Kanthal) how he does his dual coil silica wrap, running at .3ohms.

Then he drilled my airhole out for me for free w/ his nice Dremmel setup. Because you can run sub ohm all you want, but you're not accomplishing anything if you do not have the right airflow (thanks to mcVapes on youtube).

Long story short, he showed me how to make a dual coil, then I went home and chain vaped till my battery ran low. Then rushed BACK to the vape store/home depot for supplies to build my own.

And that's what I've been doing all frekin day today! experimenting w/ different coils! Have fun! I love my k100 w/ igo-w!
 

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I went in to my local shop by my office called Empire Vape - Norco, CA.

I was in your same exact spot, I was rocking an eGo Twist, was semi-pleased with it, moved up to an eVic with a Vivi Nova 1.8 head on it and loved the crap out of it!

I wanted to get into making my own coils, so I stopped by Empire Vape and asked the owner, where do I start w/ mech mods?

He pointed to a Kamery k100 w/ a Igo-W.

Then he began to show me step by step (using 28g Kanthal) how he does his dual coil silica wrap, running at .3ohms.

Then he drilled my airhole out for me for free w/ his nice Dremmel setup. Because you can run sub ohm all you want, but you're not accomplishing anything if you do not have the right airflow (thanks to mcVapes on youtube).

Long story short, he showed me how to make a dual coil, then I went home and chain vaped till my battery ran low. Then rushed BACK to the vape store/home depot for supplies to build my own.

And that's what I've been doing all frekin day today! experimenting w/ different coils! Have fun! I love my k100 w/ igo-w!

That's awesome when you get a B&M owner like that, took the time to explain and show you how to get a better vaping experience.

I hope he also mentioned battery safety though. If you are using the wrong type of batteries you can get into a lot of trouble really quickly. .3 ohms is insanely low and can be really dangerous (that's 12 amps and 46 watts right there...)
 

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So my question is will I get a better vaping experience by getting into a RBA or should I just be happy with what I have? I'm pretty mechanically inclined and like to tinker with stuff.

I'm busy this weekend chasing my boys around so I might not be able to get back very quickly but I'll try. Thanks in advance for your suggestions.

Dude ignore all this nerd talk. Get a 510 atomizer and try dripping. I think you will be very happy with the vape you get from dripping. RBA/RDA's are cool and it is a hobby a lot of us get into when we get more into vaping. However, at 5 weeks in, there are a lot of other option you can try before actyually building your own. Additionally, building your own coils can be a frustrating and tedious process, not to mention dangerous if you are not careful. It is not something to be taken lightly and you HAVE to do some research before attempting to do it yourself.

You have a good setup right now. Have you tried other clearo's than the EVODS? Personally, I like Vision Vivi Novas. They are not as reliable as the BCC setups, like your EVODS, but give a warmer, more flavorful vape.
 

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Get a 510 atomizer and try dripping. I think you will be very happy with the vape you get from dripping.

I agree with this, I think every starter kit should come with a 510 dripping atty. I started down the clearo route and I never considered a regular atomizer until recently - very different (and better in many ways) experience to clearos.

That said, I don't think there's anything wrong with making the jump to RBA / RDA after 5 weeks so long as research is done. An IGO-L on a VV like a Vamo using good quality batteries presents minimal risk and good rewards.

You don't have to spend huge amounts on mechs and the latest shiniest RDA to get a satisfying vape.
 

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I suggest one fully groove in on vaping before going too advanced too quickly. We all want a good vape, but with the excellent nearly beginner equipment available today, I wouldn't be surprised if that "want more" is the old stinkies nagging at you or withdrawal symptoms.

Also, how about a simple solution -- up your nic a notch and/or get liquid with more VG in it for more plume.
 
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The Hook

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Dude ignore all this nerd talk. Get a 510 atomizer and try dripping. I think you will be very happy with the vape you get from dripping. RBA/RDA's are cool and it is a hobby a lot of us get into when we get more into vaping. However, at 5 weeks in, there are a lot of other option you can try before actyually building your own. Additionally, building your own coils can be a frustrating and tedious process, not to mention dangerous if you are not careful. It is not something to be taken lightly and you HAVE to do some research before attempting to do it yourself.

You have a good setup right now. Have you tried other clearo's than the EVODS? Personally, I like Vision Vivi Novas. They are not as reliable as the BCC setups, like your EVODS, but give a warmer, more flavorful vape.

I have tried the Kanger T2 and just got the Iclear 30 yesterday with my MVP. I do like the Iclear 30 so far.
 

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Agree to disagree - Cartos don't even come close to flavor - but they hit well. Just my humble opinion. For the most part, anything wick will produce a lot of flavor. Go to vape bars and try their carto tanks, and then try their clearo tanks - it's so different.

Even the cheap generic no name cartomizer's I've tried have had far better flavor and draw than any clearo I've ever tried. I stay away from both though. I was reluctant to try RBA's. I won one on ECF from The Electronic Cigarette Super Store | myvaporstore.com last summer and I've never looked back. I've got a few now. I could vape until I'm 65 on the $30 worth of wick and wire I have at home. They're definitely not as hard as a lot of people make them out to be. If you decide to try RBA's, stick with an all stainless RBA if you want it to last, 400 mesh stainless or higher for wick and try 32g A-1 wire. 32g is really versitile and durable. You don't need a torch like most say, the stove works just fine for oxidizing wicks. The wicks last forever and cleaning is a breeze, 5 minutes start to finish. I can go around two weeks before the flavor starts changing and I have to clean it. I may have to recoil about once every 2-3 months. That's usually because I end up breaking the coil, not because it burnt out. They are easy to set up but there is a small learning curve in perfecting your set up.
 

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Tearose 50, I'm using juice with 24 nic in it already and the juice is 80pg/20vg. I do like a good throat hit, if I went with some 70pg/30vg juice would that still give me a good throat hit? And what gives a good throat hit? From what I understand pg and nic give the throat hit but I could be mistaken.

Plus I have been wanting an analog lately, but just chain vape when I do then it passes.
 

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I will say this about RBAs: it takes time and effort; but little money; less than using anything else. And the vape is decidedly superior.

Anyone who tells you that RBAs vape worse than their standard devices are wrong; harder to get going maybe, but the vape is better. I rarely say something so definitely, but it is true. No, it is not a matter of personal preference, because if you know what youre doing with RBAs you can tweak it which ever way to match your exact preference. So the "personal preference" argument is invalid in terms of vape quality.

Many people do prefer more standard devices over RBAs due to the simplicity of use; many dont like having to tinker and fiddle. This is a legitimate reason; RBAs are not simple to use and have a learning curve. But dismiss all arguments that use "vape quality" as a point.
 
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well i did the rba thing and now moved on to a rda. dont think ill be goin back to ss mesh anytime soon. anyway its been an experience. some good some bad. but its kept me busy, ive learned alot. maybe ican even say its what finally got me off analogs once and for all! ive spent about 450 bucks total over 7 months maybe. i had a 200/month analog habit. so run the numbers. think of all ive learned. hell yes get into rba/rda and give it a try. anything to keep the stinkies away. its working for me!
 
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