Maybe it's because I don't use a frother....Ever considered that your taste-bubs are flat?
But seriously, I do lots of custard and there is a huge difference after a few weeks of steeping, overnight taste absolutely off, bland.
Don't let the many thousands of people that do DIY that also share this view, stop you though..
It you think it's fine, well.. enjoy, but simply said, your theory is wrong.
Or maybe I just have a good recipe.
Maybe it's because I don't use a frother....
I'm with this 100 percent......everyone is different for sure, but for me, if it is not good straight from the bottle, then it will never be. At least this has been my experiences. ....I honestly have bought and tried hundreds of juices in the past 7 years and have tested them immediately, if I didn't like them then, I never liked them. Yes the ones I didn't like straight away, I steeped to see if it helped, and it never did. Yes some do get slightly different but not enough to like. Only one time did I try a juice straight away, didn't like, retried then liked, and that was bobas bounty.
Lol. I'm not too worried about what anyone thinks about my diy process. It's not something I do to try and impress anyone. I've made the same 4 flavors for the past 5 years. I've never had a complaint from anyone I've gifted juice to and a fairly large juice company local to me asked for the recipes. 3 of the 4 are their top sellers. I understand the passion and complexity you put towards your diy....And I appreciate it. I'm sure your stuff is great. But other means and methods work every bit as well. Juice is a preference thing. I have my preference, you have yours.
Bobas Bounty....There's a blast from the past! Busardo musta made them a mint!
I can just see this company shaking thousands of bottles by hand all through the week because mixing mechanical wouldn't work for your recipes...
The job application for past experience probably has a section about how much Baywatch and (how many times) "Species" they watched "alone".
I don't know...maybe they're like other juice companies and they assume their customers know to shake their juice when they get it? But once they all realize what you've discovered, that shaking juice creates air bubbles that rob you of flavor, they'll probably switch to mechanical means.
I'm almost positive I never said mixing mechanical wouldn't work for my recipes. To me, mixing is mixing....however you get there is perfect. I mean, it's mixing a few ingredients together....It's not rocket science.
I don't want to post links to any vendors not associated with ECF, but if you google Nilla Nuts, it should be the first hit. Maybe you can clue them in to how air bubbles destroy flavor. They're good, humble folks over there...I'm sure they'd appreciate any guidance you could provide them.
I think his method would work great for mixing eliquid. I would probably do exactly that if I wanted to mix in a separate vessel then transfer it into a bottle. But, I mix in the bottle...therefore shaking seems to work best for me.Not done like that... as I stated, keeping the head/tip under the liquid will not. It's clearly seen that he's purposefully pushing air into it.
A tiny bit of bubbles is fine, it can even help you see any spots that you're not getting, but you aren't supposed to try and froth your GD liquid... shesss...
Yep at one time it was "the" juice . At the time I had gotten away from tobacco juices that I had started with and moved to fruits but I had to try it and didn't particularly like it. About 2 years later I had gotten sick of fruits and custards and such and went back to tobacco's and found that 2 year old bottle and absolutely loved it. I continued to vape bobas until it went away, actually before because the recipe changed
A little(?) off topic and a thread away but I've been very interested in an experiment in which a member took fresh eLiquid and vacuum sealed it to speed up the steep time and I'm just wondering if you could explain the chemistry going on..... I was told the juice will boil out alcohols wen vacuuming simply by expelling the air in the process. I'm working with a food saver, I bought a marinating container and I know it will keep a seal, but for how long? Is it a visual thing, darkened color, or where the bubbles/froth disappears? I wanna ask before I ruin a valuable juice!> Is it necessary?
Depends on flavour, but basicly yes.
> How long do I steep?
Depends. Some flavours require overnight steeping, some - one month and more
> Is it only if mixing my own juices or do all juices have a steeping time?
Do you think they use different components to produce "industrial" liquids?
The liquids from vape-shop usually are stocked for some time by the seller\maker, it adds to steeping process.
> Can you steep for too long?
Ad nauseam
In reality depends on many factors - some flavourings may introduce some bad or reduced flavour over the time, some not. Nicotine is prone to oxidise is there is enough air in the bottle. And so on and so on - practice more to make your own decisions.
Most interesting part
> an overview of the steeping process
I assume you are not good with chemistry, right?
I'll try then to describe it in quite simple way.
The molecules of a solvent - PG or VG - tend to form large conglomerates - several molecules stick to each other.
When initially you add flavouring to the solution and mix it, the mix looks like microdrops of the flavouring surrounded by these huge guys - solvent conglomerates.
Over the time the mixture becomes more homogeneous - smaller portions of flavouring surrounded by smaller conglomerates of PG.
What's wrong with the initial mix?
Well, that's where the chemistry and biology meet each other
The sensors on your taste buds are specialised molecules, trained to recognise specific substances. When the flavour molecule is enclosed in a huge bubble of PG molecules, it just cannot reach the sensor, poor thing.
When it has less guards, it has more chances to reach the target.
It's a bit more complicated in reality, but the overall picture is pretty much like this.
