Whats the rule for rampup time?

[Henning Friis]

Hallo again
Are there some kind of rule for rampup time?
Ill thinking the more recistence the faster rampup time?
So the higher gauge wire the faster rampup, are this correct? Or....

 

[diagrammatiks]

On a regulated mod it’s all about coil mass.

 

[Kazuko]

Hallo again
Are there some kind of rule for rampup time?
Ill thinking the more recistence the faster rampup time?
So the higher gauge wire the faster rampup, are this correct? Or....

Quite the opposite. As diagrammatiks said, more coil mass = more ramp up time. It also means it'll take longer to cool down. So thicker wire or more complex builds will need more power (watts) and take longer to heat up, but will also produce more vapor.

Edit : I read your post wrong, so it's not the opposite. But it's not related to resistance either (unless you vape a mech mod, since resistance will determine what power goes through your coil(s))

 

[Henning Friis]

Quite the opposite. As diagrammatiks said, more coil mass = more ramp up time. It also means it'll take longer to cool down. So thicker wire or more complex builds will need more power (watts) and take longer to heat up, but will also produce more vapor.

Thanks for replying
Thats mean in simpel terms that at coil in 26 G ramp up faster than a coil i ex. 20 G corect?

 

[Kazuko]

Thanks for replying
Thats mean in simpel terms that at coil in 26 G ramp up faster than a coil i ex. 20 G corect?

That's it. But a complex coil, like a tri-core fused clapton / alien with 3*26G will ramp up roughly as slow as 20G.

 

[sonicbomb]

Have a read of this article
Understanding the relationship between power and coil resistance | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[sonicbomb]

Maximum surface area, minimum mass. Thin wire has a better surface area to mass ratio. A regulated device does not care about high resistance and can apply whatever power level you desire regardless. This can be made to work for unregulated device as well by using multiple parallel wires to keep the resistance low.

 

[Henning Friis]

Have a read of this article
Understanding the relationship between power and coil resistance | E-Cigarette Forum

Thanks. Very helpful. Love the coil pic Its a hevy one

 

[dom qp]

That's it. But a complex coil, like a tri-core fused clapton / alien with 3*26G will ramp up roughly as slow as 20G.

Not if you build to it.

My 3*26G/36G builds ramp up super quickly. Why? Because I build very low and get very high wattage. On 24g for example, I need more wraps for surface area so the mass goes up, resistance goes up, wattage comes down, and it ramps slower.


Ramp up isn't just mass. It's mass and power. Ridiculous example: 24g round wire @ 80W will ramp up quicker than 30g round wire @ 5W.

 

[sonicbomb]

You can overpower any mass coil into submission. But in the real world who wants to carry a bag of batteries around for a brick sized mod?

 

[Doffy]

wire type matters

ni80 ramps up quicker than kanthal

and as stated, mass plays a role too

 

[Punk In Drublic]

Ramp up time is related to the Specific Heat Capacity of the metal, the mass of the wire, and the amount of current flowing through the wire which is related to its resistance.

If dealing with the same type of metal, Kanthal for example, then the Specific Heat Capacity remains the same, but the mass will influence the resistance therefore influence the amount of current that is passed through assuming the same wattage.

When dealing with different types of metal, N80 vs Kanthal for example. Using the same dimension of coil (amount of wraps, ID & gauge), N80 has a slightly lower Specific Heat Capacity, but that is over come by it’s much higher mass. However, for the same dimension of coil, N80 also has a lower resistance therefore more current will be passed through the coil for the same wattage – hence why it heats up faster.

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

Regulated Mod it really doesn't matter as you can adjust wattage to suit your build, a lot of mods have the ability to set a preheat as well.

For unregulated mods and if you want a hard hitting build lower resistance makes more sense since you'll get more wattage out of a lower build and it will come up to temperature at a decent rate EG: it makes more sense to have a .15 build in a mech than a 0.4 build if you like a warm vape.