Have you tried Ni wire Lessifer and if so, did you get the same flavor effect?
Why did people start using kanthal over nichrome?
- Thread starter alicewonderland
- Start date
- th_trl_thread_readers 0
- Status
Have you tried Ni wire Lessifer and if so, did you get the same flavor effect?
I haven't, I'm a caveman, no dna40/temp control for me. The only regulated devices I own are two vamos that may or may not work, sorry.
I will add also that using nichrome was the only time I ever had a coil completely sag out of shape when fired. I'm pretty sure it had a shorted wrap issue, but it basically melted and then tried to create it's own hard short.
Yep nichrome is pretty much for very large gauge sizes or wrapped around silica. They do not hold shape very well when heated. People think it is hotter it just is lower resistance for the same Ga/ length/diameter/number of wraps than Kanthal. So on a mech mod or straight battery it is hotter, but on a regulated watts mod it is virtually the same on vapor production, etc. Vids out there on that.
bleh silica, i wick mine with cotton. silica is so outdated, it just cant wick fast enouch and gives a disgusting flavor, even in kanthal.
Beware alicewonderland, I suspect most people think NiChrome isn't worth considering either
Beware alicewonderland, I suspect most people think NiChrome isn't worth considering either
i can see positives of nichrome though in siturations, i cant see positives of silica, in any situation.
Silica has a place.
Like in a Non-Rebuild-able Clearo. Kinda hard to Dry Burn a Cotton Wick.
BTW - I haven't had any problems with 28ga or 30ga NiChrome 80 coils not holding there Shape.
I hear ya. OTOH, I have used silica enough to know it's a viable solution for me in some situations.
You can dry burn a coil with silica in it and the silica does not burn up. I've also torched coils with silica in them and they cleaned up really well. Yes, the flavor suffers a bit with silica, but not all that much and I DIY my juices so I can adjust my recipes to compensate. I also adjust juice recipes to handle too much flavor production in really good flavor systems.
I'm not suggesting everyone should switch to silica, but almost nothing in vaping is all good with no negatives, or the opposite
I hear ya. OTOH, I have used silica enough to know it's a viable solution for me in some situations.
You can dry burn a coil with silica in it and the silica does not burn up. I've also torched coils with silica in them and they cleaned up really well. Yes, the flavor suffers a bit with silica, but not all that much and I DIY my juices so I can adjust my recipes to compensate. I also adjust juice recipes to handle too much flavor production in really good flavor systems.
I'm not suggesting everyone should switch to silica, but almost nothing in vaping is all good with no negatives, or the opposite
id give you all this extra silica wick I have here if you were close lol. I have so much of it but I dont use it anymore because it just doesnt wick quick enough for me. I have the tendency to buy a bunch of something whenever i buy stuff. Got a bunch of silicas, braided silicas, tons of cottons who knows.
Thank you kindly alicewonderland, but I'm in the same boat as you in that I think I have enough wicking material on hand to probably last me two lifetimes, LOL.
Vape on my friend
My best answer is, dont fix it if it aint broken. I think all older carto systems were heated using nichrome just nobody knew about it until way later.
Either way, ive mastered my a1 kanthal builds theres little reason to explore anything else.
Out of curiosity is it more expensive than kanthal?
Either way, ive mastered my a1 kanthal builds theres little reason to explore anything else.
Out of curiosity is it more expensive than kanthal?
Yes, but how do we know it ain't broken until we actually fix it?
Sorry, couldn't resist that one
It's usually roughly the same price as kanthal. I have a roll because temco was out of kanthal in the gauge that I wanted, and I didn't feel like waiting. I'll add that the taste is very faint to me, and it worked well in a twisted coil, I just prefer kanthal.
I kinda Agree and Disagree with you. If that makes Sense?
If you're Happy, then why Change? But you also could be Missing Out on something if you Don't Try new things?
My thought are for Less than what I would spend on a Pack of Smokes for a Day, you can pick up a Roll of NiChrome 80 and give it a Whirl.
Nichrome 80 in 16 18 20 22 24 26 28 30 32 Gauge AWG 25' 50' 100' 250' 500' 1000' | eBay
And if you Don't like it, you could Always PIF to someone.
BTW - Check out How Many rolls of NiChrome 80 those guys have Sold. Rats-a-Rot of Coils. LOL
Last edited:
I found a use for nichrome 80 at least. For me personally its a much more satisfying vape, but it doesnt hold up well, i can kill a nichrome coil much faster than a kanthal one. So I mostly save my nichrome builds for home. Still use my Kanthal builds when I go out cuz I dont want a nichrome build to fail on me out n about and left with nothing to vape. I managed to make a <0.2ohm dual coil kanthal build that heats up as fast as nichrome, but I think I may get thicker gauge wire or try ribbonwire next, because trying to get good surface area and <0.5ohms without rampup time is really difficult for me with 24gauge at least. Maybe ill twist it and see if I can get a good one working. It has just been way easier for me to get low ohm builds for my mechs with this nichrome.
If I remember correctly, Nichrome 80 is 80%Nickel/20%Chromium, while Nichrome 60 (the other nichrome I usually see) is 60%Nickel/~40%Chromium/Iron mix. I'm guessing the Nichrome 60 would have more resistance per foot, and possibly be less malleable than the 80%.
I think Alice got it right
. If you have a look at the Steam Engine coil building page you'll see NiChrome listed at 80, 70, 60, 40 and 20, so there are at least those to chose from. And you can check out the differences in heat flux for each. It's not linear.The site below is a Great Source for the Physical Properties of Metal Alloys.
NiChrome 80
NiChrome 60
Kanthal A-1
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked
