What's up with the Utah Department of Health and this crazy quote?

[ennagizer]

I was reading a story and read this crazy quote. I'm thinking the spokesperson is referring to the CDC study and really misrepresenting the numbers.

"There are more students using an e-cigarette than any other form of tobacco," he said. "It’s becoming the No. 1 nicotine delivery of choice."

Read it in context here:
Utah e-cigarette retailers set new standards as use triples among youth
sltrib.com/sltrib/news/56940723-78/utah-cigarettes-cigarette-frazier.html.csp

 

[AgentAnia]

I haven't followed your link and read the article, but based on that headline and the quote, I have to assume the Utahans have been smoking something recently legalized in a neighboring state....

 

[Thunderball]

I haven't followed your link and read the article, but based on that headline and the quote, I have to assume the Utahans have been smoking something recently legalized in a neighboring state....

+ 1 on that !!

 

[Vocalek]

Yup, and to me this looks like a new tobacco Control propaganda tactic: Guilt by association. Make everyone think that e-cigarettes are being used to deliver illicit drugs.

The only problem with their theory is that the other product is derived from an oil. I am told that using a liquid with oil in a standard e-cigarette will gum up the atomizer, which was designed to work with glycols such as glycerine and propylene glycol.

There are atomizers available that are designed to work with those oils, but I don't believe those specialized atomizers are being sold in many (if any) e-cigarette stores, and they certainly are not being sold at the corner gas station or convenience stores.

 

[Petrodus]

Even SNL did a skit showing e-cigs as a "...." smoking device.

All those opposed to ecigs are really doing everything they can
to demonize e-cigarettes in preparation for the FDA making public
their proposed regulations.

The FDA will claim they have to step in to regulate due to public demand
for regulating a very dangerous product.

 

[Uma]

Kinda makes ya wonder who paid who to show who how to do you know what.

 

[Uma]

I need coffee....

 

[AgentAnia]

Oops! Actually what I meant in my earlier post (sarcasm was intended) was that the journalists and the people interpreting the stats were the ones partaking of the leaf... But since this discussion took the turn it did, have to say I agree wholeheartedly!

 

[Uma]

I like the quote in the op. It means that safer alternatives have become the number one choice over smoking.
Then the story goes on to say preferred way over smoking anything.
That undercover cop doesn't know the difference between the things he undercovering about lol. Made me laugh.

 

[reej]

Utah is a pain in the ... anyway. Any ecig or apv is banned in the same places as smoking here. Meaning anywhere public basically. No indoor public venues including apartment complexes and no public parks off the top of my head. It's called the Utah clean air act.


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[Bill Godshall]

Thanks to CDC director Tom Frieden's fear mongering claims about e-cigs and youth, I suspect every new national, state and local survey on youth use of e-cigs will generate news headlines "Health officials shocked by increased youth use of e-cigs".

The reality is that just as e-cig use by adults smokers continues to sharply increase, increasingly more teen smokers (and probably nonsmokers) will use e-cigs.

The biggest problem with government surveys on use of e-cigs (and cigars, smokeless tobacco and hookah) is they only ask about "ever use" and "past-30-day use".

If surveys asked about daily use, they'd find that virtually all (if not all) daily e-cig users are/were daily smokers.

 

[Uma]

Thanks to CDC director Tom Frieden's fear mongering claims about e-cigs and youth, I suspect every new national, state and local survey on youth use of e-cigs will generate news headlines "Health officials shocked by increased youth use of e-cigs and nosedive drop of smoking!"

There, fixed that for ya.

 

[AgentAnia]

Which is why I always view survey results with extreme skepticism until I know *exactly* how the questions were worded. Because depending on how questions are worded, a survey taker can elicit any results he wants, so if he's decided going in what results he's looking for, he words the questions accordingly. The CDC survey is a perfect example of this.