Question 1: What's wrong with madvapes juice?
So if you read my thread about juices you hate, you know that I really hated Madvapes's Kona Cream. Apart from the other things that disgusted me about it, it seemed to have this weird burnt/rotten fake milk flavor. Apparently, all of the juice I got from them does that to some extent. Except for KC, it's good enough to keep me off cigs until my new shipment but they all have just a bit of that flavor hiding in there. It's there regardless of voltage, though seems to be less prevalent running higher. It's just this weird, overpowering, gross sweetness that I can't place. Kinda like chewing on non-dairy coffee creamer but rotten somehow. I don't care I just don't like it and won't buy anymore and others might like it (i mean people do eat Okra which makes no sense to me) but I'm curious what it could be.
Question 2: Anyone have any juice recommendations?
So, the other night I was celebrating with friends, drinking martinis and whiskey (not at the same time) and the juice that I had just wasn't working well. That was one of the times I most enjoyed smoking, and I found myself longing for that old taste. I didn't break down and smoke (yay!) but it was the strongest desire I've had. I think I need to invest in a good tobacco, but I have no idea where to look. There are a lot of them, and a lot of the descriptions don't make any sense to me. Feel free to only skim the next section and give a recommendation but recommending something just because you like it will probably get ignored I have my "good enough for now all day vape" (vapor alley key lime) coming in this afternoon and am looking to experiment with darker, drier (in the liquor sense meaning less sweet) flavors.
About my flavor "likes":
I can't taste a difference between colors of skittles or gummy candies (no matter how good from gummy bears to hand-crafted boutique gummies). They all taste like vague fruit (somtimes brighter or darker) and sugar.
I can taste a difference between brands of vodka blind. My favoriteby faris Stolichnaya, along with Vox, Ketel One (though not in a Martini tastes bad with vermouth), and Russian Standard (which is actually really good for the price).
My favorite champagneby a wide marginis Bollinger Special Cuveé. And I've had just about all of the good ones from $10 bottles to $350 bottles (still haven't bought Ace of Spades or Crystal, though).
I prefer Islay Scotches to most other whiskeys, and Ardbeg is my favorite distillery by a wide margin. I prefer Scotch to Bourbon most of the time and drier(kinda) things like Bullet and Bookers to Maker's Mark. A Rye Old Fashioned (made the old fashioned way with sugar, bitters, and basically no fruit) is one of my favorite drinks in the world, along with Gin Martinis (Gordon's, Hendrick's, Plymouth + Dolin Dry or Martini & Rossi in a pinch). Favorite Ryes are (oddly) Old Overholt and High West Double Rye.
I'm not a huge beer drinker, but my favorite is Fuller's ESB. I tend not to like IPAs that are at all a part of the hop race, but Pale Ales (that the rest of the world would consider an IPA) like Sweetwater 420 are okay. I don't mind bitter flavors to a degree, but it's easy for beer to go way too far.
My favorite wines tend to be Malbecs, though I'm not a huge wine drinker. Heavy full boddied strong but not overpowering. They go great with a good steak. If I want something lighter, I'll drink a Gin or Rye Ricky and I kinda hate that weird sweetness tonic water has, though it's okay if you absolutely drown it in gin and lime.
I love general vegetables and prefer Asian/Spanish/Mexican style cooking for them to southern style cooking. I love Indian and Thai, and the hotter the better but I don't think it's possible to actually get a spicy e-liquid that I'd actually consider spicy (I cook with habaneros and occasionally ghost peppers), and I explicitly don't want chocolate in with it. Maybe it's just the ones I've had, but spicy chocolate things always have the worst chocolate. And I hate coconut milk with a passion, mostly due to the texture, but still.
I hate Turkey because it tastes like nothing, but I love most other meats. And while I've eaten game birds, I still have no idea what "gamey" means.
Red Bull is probably my favorite liquid on the planet, and no I haven't found a good red bull flavor (tried Mad Vapes, Vapor Alley, Vapor Kings (i think), e-cigarette-usa, and something else).
And I smoked Lucky Strikes.
So, yeah any suggestions for dry, rich juices that might fit into that (especially when paired with liquor) kinda looking for a Tobacco (not necessarily WTA don't actually know what chemicals those are) but it's not necessary that everything I try be a tobacco.
So if you read my thread about juices you hate, you know that I really hated Madvapes's Kona Cream. Apart from the other things that disgusted me about it, it seemed to have this weird burnt/rotten fake milk flavor. Apparently, all of the juice I got from them does that to some extent. Except for KC, it's good enough to keep me off cigs until my new shipment but they all have just a bit of that flavor hiding in there. It's there regardless of voltage, though seems to be less prevalent running higher. It's just this weird, overpowering, gross sweetness that I can't place. Kinda like chewing on non-dairy coffee creamer but rotten somehow. I don't care I just don't like it and won't buy anymore and others might like it (i mean people do eat Okra which makes no sense to me) but I'm curious what it could be.
Question 2: Anyone have any juice recommendations?
So, the other night I was celebrating with friends, drinking martinis and whiskey (not at the same time) and the juice that I had just wasn't working well. That was one of the times I most enjoyed smoking, and I found myself longing for that old taste. I didn't break down and smoke (yay!) but it was the strongest desire I've had. I think I need to invest in a good tobacco, but I have no idea where to look. There are a lot of them, and a lot of the descriptions don't make any sense to me. Feel free to only skim the next section and give a recommendation but recommending something just because you like it will probably get ignored I have my "good enough for now all day vape" (vapor alley key lime) coming in this afternoon and am looking to experiment with darker, drier (in the liquor sense meaning less sweet) flavors.
About my flavor "likes":
I can't taste a difference between colors of skittles or gummy candies (no matter how good from gummy bears to hand-crafted boutique gummies). They all taste like vague fruit (somtimes brighter or darker) and sugar.
I can taste a difference between brands of vodka blind. My favoriteby faris Stolichnaya, along with Vox, Ketel One (though not in a Martini tastes bad with vermouth), and Russian Standard (which is actually really good for the price).
My favorite champagneby a wide marginis Bollinger Special Cuveé. And I've had just about all of the good ones from $10 bottles to $350 bottles (still haven't bought Ace of Spades or Crystal, though).
I prefer Islay Scotches to most other whiskeys, and Ardbeg is my favorite distillery by a wide margin. I prefer Scotch to Bourbon most of the time and drier(kinda) things like Bullet and Bookers to Maker's Mark. A Rye Old Fashioned (made the old fashioned way with sugar, bitters, and basically no fruit) is one of my favorite drinks in the world, along with Gin Martinis (Gordon's, Hendrick's, Plymouth + Dolin Dry or Martini & Rossi in a pinch). Favorite Ryes are (oddly) Old Overholt and High West Double Rye.
I'm not a huge beer drinker, but my favorite is Fuller's ESB. I tend not to like IPAs that are at all a part of the hop race, but Pale Ales (that the rest of the world would consider an IPA) like Sweetwater 420 are okay. I don't mind bitter flavors to a degree, but it's easy for beer to go way too far.
My favorite wines tend to be Malbecs, though I'm not a huge wine drinker. Heavy full boddied strong but not overpowering. They go great with a good steak. If I want something lighter, I'll drink a Gin or Rye Ricky and I kinda hate that weird sweetness tonic water has, though it's okay if you absolutely drown it in gin and lime.
I love general vegetables and prefer Asian/Spanish/Mexican style cooking for them to southern style cooking. I love Indian and Thai, and the hotter the better but I don't think it's possible to actually get a spicy e-liquid that I'd actually consider spicy (I cook with habaneros and occasionally ghost peppers), and I explicitly don't want chocolate in with it. Maybe it's just the ones I've had, but spicy chocolate things always have the worst chocolate. And I hate coconut milk with a passion, mostly due to the texture, but still.
I hate Turkey because it tastes like nothing, but I love most other meats. And while I've eaten game birds, I still have no idea what "gamey" means.
Red Bull is probably my favorite liquid on the planet, and no I haven't found a good red bull flavor (tried Mad Vapes, Vapor Alley, Vapor Kings (i think), e-cigarette-usa, and something else).
And I smoked Lucky Strikes.
So, yeah any suggestions for dry, rich juices that might fit into that (especially when paired with liquor) kinda looking for a Tobacco (not necessarily WTA don't actually know what chemicals those are) but it's not necessary that everything I try be a tobacco.
