OK today, i have taken most of the advice, coil moved, clean hands, very little water while rolling, smaller wick, let it sit for 20 mins, then did 10x3 sec wet burn, its still not completely where i think it should be, but its much better than it has been. Almost there I know it.
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Better.
After its all in place, keep your cover off and give some good healthy squonks and let the juice soak the cotton for a few miutes before vaping. With the cover off you should be able to tell when the cotton is soaked all the way thru and won't soak up any more. You may get a cotton taste the first few hits but then the flavor of the juice should take over.
if it's still tasting funky, take a pic of your current wick and coil and let us see what's still needing to change.
Everyone earlier stated longer legs, and I just want to stress it: The coil placement in those last pics was WAY too far out from the air hole, and sitting WAY too low. You should start with that coil sitting right in front of that airhole, and level with it (so if you were to look through the hole with light coming down through the driptip spout, you can see the wraps on the coil, and dry firing it w/o a wick you should see the coil through the airhole easily). Seriously, get it as close as you can without touching the rim or the cap.
In most cases it is gonna taste like magically delicious garbage till that coil breaks in, but you should start noticing a difference very quickly, and after about 10-20 toots it should smooth out and get better and better. In my experience it's always seemed that it's the coil itself that is breaking in/oxidizing/bedding, and once it gets properly coated that magical delicious garbage fades quickly (you'll notice once you have a good coil rocking and you swap out the wick, it doesn't taste bad). try dripping a drop or 2 of juice straight on the coil so it's drippy and then fire it a few times. Keep it wet and use it till it cooks some of that juice onto the kanthal.
Proper placement, and give it time to bed in (by using it).
EDIT: With longer legs, you can afford to drop a few wraps off that coil... shoot for about 8-9 wraps and see where that meters for you (this will allow the coil to heat up to temp faster and just vapes better).
Everyone earlier stated longer legs, and I just want to stress it: The coil placement in those last pics was WAY too far out from the air hole, and sitting WAY too low. You should start with that coil sitting right in front of that airhole, and level with it (so if you were to look through the hole with light coming down through the driptip spout, you can see the wraps on the coil, and dry firing it w/o a wick you should see the coil through the airhole easily). Seriously, get it as close as you can without touching the rim or the cap.
In most cases it is gonna taste like magically delicious garbage till that coil breaks in, but you should start noticing a difference very quickly, and after about 10-20 toots it should smooth out and get better and better. In my experience it's always seemed that it's the coil itself that is breaking in/oxidizing/bedding, and once it gets properly coated that magical delicious garbage fades quickly (you'll notice once you have a good coil rocking and you swap out the wick, it doesn't taste bad). try dripping a drop or 2 of juice straight on the coil so it's drippy and then fire it a few times. Keep it wet and use it till it cooks some of that juice onto the kanthal.
Proper placement, and give it time to bed in (by using it).
EDIT: With longer legs, you can afford to drop a few wraps off that coil... shoot for about 8-9 wraps and see where that meters for you (this will allow the coil to heat up to temp faster and just vapes better).
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One more thing you can try: I have no clue if this works for others or why this works for me but I have found that if I torch the kanthal (get the length of it red hot with a lighter or torch) that usually speeds up the break in period for the cotton wicks on a new coil. That being said I rarely do it (i'm lazy) and I just accept that my first 10 drags will suck. After vaping it for 10min your flavor should pop.
I think some people boil their cotton and do not get the off taste, I havn't tried it (again lazy) but that could be an option.
Let us know when you get it.
One more thing you can try: I have no clue if this works for others or why this works for me but I have found that if I torch the kanthal (get the length of it red hot with a lighter or torch) that usually speeds up the break in period for the cotton wicks on a new coil. That being said I rarely do it (i'm lazy) and I just accept that my first 10 drags will suck. After vaping it for 10min your flavor should pop.
I think some people boil their cotton and do not get the off taste, I havn't tried it (again lazy) but that could be an option.
Let us know when you get it.
+1 here... honestly I don't think the taste is the cotton at all. It's the unoxidized kanthal. torching or doing a lot of dry burns/fires will get you 90% of the way there, and some juice baked in sets up that pie when it comes out of the oven.
I give 'em a dry burn and a squeeze, blow out the dust if any, another check on the meter to see if all is well, then fill'er up and vape. Same for tune-ups and cotton changes. Seem to last a real long time that way.
Requiem for a Coil. The Coils have Risen. Long Live the Windings! Soon the coils will take on superhuman intelligence with nano technology and when we go to fire it, it will say, "I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave." Then we're done for.
Requiem for a Coil. The Coils have Risen. Long Live the Windings! Soon the coils will take on superhuman intelligence with nano technology and when we go to fire it, it will say, "I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave." Then we're done for.
I anneal my wire before i wrap.
Its amazing how delicate changes affect RBA's its definitely something you have to get used to.
cotton is barely touching the inside of the coil.
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as long as there's some wick in there, don't sweat the cotton. Still have a mile of room to move that coil forward. You want to see most of that white ceramic behind that coil... you want that white space between the coil and the posts
Roll out another coil at 8 wraps and stick it so it's sitting almost right at the edge of that rim as you look directly down upon it. That'll get you most of the way to where you'll want it (then you can just adjust the same coil to fine tune it to your liking).
+1 on that ↑ - right in front of the air hole is going to give you flavor.
Maybe not quite that close, but you get the idea.
Maybe not quite that close, but you get the idea.
BING ....! I love it when the internet makes pictures of the things we talk about magically appear =) +1 X-Puppy!
THAT up there is what you want to shoot for (ok maybe not THAT far out on your first go, but as close as you feel comfortable).
THAT up there is what you want to shoot for (ok maybe not THAT far out on your first go, but as close as you feel comfortable).
Yea like that - I'm guessing the closer you get to the air hole the better it's getting?
Then if you want more throat hit, raise the coil a little at a time until you like it.
Then if you want more throat hit, raise the coil a little at a time until you like it.
yeah, last pic is best of the lot but it can still go out a bit too.
personally I hated cotton until I did a nice long rolling boil of my cotton balls, only then was I not getting that cotton taste at all. many say cotton doesn't need to be boiled. personally I don't agree, boiling made a world of difference for me... you're getting there
personally I hated cotton until I did a nice long rolling boil of my cotton balls, only then was I not getting that cotton taste at all. many say cotton doesn't need to be boiled. personally I don't agree, boiling made a world of difference for me... you're getting there
Here's a new coil, 8 wrap 28g, moved it toward the juice hole because that's where my air hole is. Lifted, almost touching the cap. Annealed and dry burned. Wicked with a smaller wick, we will see how this one goes edit i think it metered around 1.08
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cr12, might be an idea to bend up those coil wires sticking out the other end of the posts so they can't touch the cap. They look a bit close but it might just be the camera angle.
ETA - never mind, looks like you fixed it, I was referring to the previous pic.
ETA - never mind, looks like you fixed it, I was referring to the previous pic.
Have you drilled the air hole out any? Can't tell if yours is stock or not. I found that it made a big difference in performance for me - drilled mine to 1/16" and it kicks ..... You may want to go incrementally up to that size to find your desired draw etc. Btw, the coil placement looks spot on here.
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