Sounds like I need to look into that, thanks
Where is the Apple of vaping?
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I've been vaping for less than 3 months and I can already see that within the next 9-18 months wire coils will be history. Well be vaping with nano miniaturized microwave vaporizers with built in sonic cleaners. 1 starter kit will last a lifetime. Just pay your $250,000 for the kit from Philip Morris and your $350,000 sin tax and you'll be set for life.
Sounds like I need to look into that, thanks
The thread on the bottom feed atty.
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This with a screw in coil would be the cure for high temp and big altitude changes while staying simple.
Well, I hate apple products, but I get the OP's point. And I'm sure it's true - there is rapid product development going on, and there very likely will be some kind of leap into more intuitive use in order to reach another big level of mass adoption.
There's already pretty substantial change - just look at the posts in this thread -
- Nothing better than a Kayfun, or Kabuki, or Cartotank...
But none of that is "mainstream". Mainstream a year ago was an Ego with a Clearo. Mainstream now has a sub-ohm factory coil in a tank on devices that probably average 50 watts and have VW and Temp limiting.
I think the real revolution will be in the tank/liquid/coil arena - power delivery just needs incremental development now. It's already getting smaller, and already amounts to "turn it up or turn it down" and you can use it. But replacing coils and filling tanks is still a bit awkward.
Still - it has come a long way. A new user can get a pretty satisfying vape without a ton of complexity, picking up something like a iStick and a Subtank. That kind of stuff is almost plug-and-play...
There's already pretty substantial change - just look at the posts in this thread -
- Nothing better than a Kayfun, or Kabuki, or Cartotank...
But none of that is "mainstream". Mainstream a year ago was an Ego with a Clearo. Mainstream now has a sub-ohm factory coil in a tank on devices that probably average 50 watts and have VW and Temp limiting.
I think the real revolution will be in the tank/liquid/coil arena - power delivery just needs incremental development now. It's already getting smaller, and already amounts to "turn it up or turn it down" and you can use it. But replacing coils and filling tanks is still a bit awkward.
Still - it has come a long way. A new user can get a pretty satisfying vape without a ton of complexity, picking up something like a iStick and a Subtank. That kind of stuff is almost plug-and-play...
119 degrees in Saudi Arabia at 80% humidity with nautilus coils never had a problem at 9 watts with 70/30.
But with apple it would of course be a proprietary connection to the i-Atty.
And when the i-Atty4 comes out for $200, with better airflow, you'll find you need to update the AirVape software, which you can only do through iTunes, and iTunes locks up my computers.
The iVape system will automatically adjust your settings FOR you - storing preferences in hidden files, so you can't actually control anything yourself.
But it will have a built-in GPS so you can't lose it, and built in Juice-Ordering. And a camera.
All your location, photos and purchasing history will be "in the cloud" along with the settings you can't get at, ripe for marketing and monetizing.
I friggin' hate Apple.
And when the i-Atty4 comes out for $200, with better airflow, you'll find you need to update the AirVape software, which you can only do through iTunes, and iTunes locks up my computers.
The iVape system will automatically adjust your settings FOR you - storing preferences in hidden files, so you can't actually control anything yourself.
But it will have a built-in GPS so you can't lose it, and built in Juice-Ordering. And a camera.
All your location, photos and purchasing history will be "in the cloud" along with the settings you can't get at, ripe for marketing and monetizing.
I friggin' hate Apple.
Behold....
Think vaping is high maintenance now? You should look at few old threads to see what we went through 4 years ago. Vaping has come a long way in the short time it's been around, Apple has been around since the 70's.
Behold....
LMAO!
i-Atty4? yeah right, new atty's won't work unless you buy the AirVape Pro 4s which will of course need a new charging cable and dock because none of your old ones will work.
I think learning is a good habit. Regardless of what you learn, the habit is important. It's not a joke if I tell you I learn 2 weeks for how to smoke rightly. But I do believe
I'd compare the vape industry to the home video industry when we had to choose between Betamax or VHS. We made our choice and that was that. Then again there was the time when we had to choose between Blu-Ray and HD DVD. The point is i think the vaping world has already made that choice. These days no one uses Genesis Style Atomizers or any other top coil device. This is what it is about right ?, atomizers !, we aren't really talking about mods or ego batteries etc are we ?. And while these top coil devices were what everyone used, bottom coil atomisers were available but were still developing. Back to present day, everyone is using bottom coil atomizers. The only thing that hasn't really changed is people are still using RDA's, they seem to be the one real constant.
I really can't see how there will ever be a time when we won't have to change our wicks out and recoil, clean atomizers, unless, instead of using a sponge to clean our cars, the way we used to, we could always pressure wash our atomisers.
I really can't see how there will ever be a time when we won't have to change our wicks out and recoil, clean atomizers, unless, instead of using a sponge to clean our cars, the way we used to, we could always pressure wash our atomisers.
This is already possible with some of the larger batteries. Unfortunately, this isn't a limitation with the vaping gear, but batteries themselves. If you're going to push large amounts of power through the coil, expect the battery to be drained much quicker.
Get a syringe with a blunt tip needle. Problem solved.
Most of my builds last for weeks. About the only time I replace them is when the coil is showing a lot of wear and tear.
Put the drain stopper in before rinsing. Better yet, get multiple tanks so you have 4 or 5 on the go. Want a change in flavor, swap out the tank.
There are systems available that go a long way to reducing the amount of maintenance necessary for an optimal vaping experience. If you're going to cheap out with pre-made coils, then yes, your upkeep is going to be more than someone who uses rebuildables and larger batteries. The type of system you're pining for would most likely be a closed system, which the government and Big Tobacco would dearly love to push down our throats. Be careful what you wish for. You just may get it.
Never more gurgling due to the air in the tank expanding when going from cool air inside to 119F outside? Interesting, physics must be suspended in SA.
The laws of physics work just fine in Saudi Arabia so does the law of common sense. Turn your tank upside when not in use.
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Be glad we do not have Apple vape stuff. Your atty would only work with 10%of the ejuice. Aspecial apple charger would be required. And if you did not upgrade it would quit working with any ejuice on the matket.
Here's your problem.....in your above post you mention that you'd be ok with disposable cartomizers as long as they weren't $20. And then you go on to mention that you want an Apple-ized experience.....which basically contradicts your previous statement. Sure, Apple provides a plug-and-play solution, but Apple have always charged through the nose for it. In any venture Apple has gone into, theirs has ALWAYS been the most expensive.
I get what the OP is saying...but its not a one size fits all so to speak. Vaping technology has really taken off and the learning curve for some looks like you gave a three year old an etch-a-sketch. Many people have found their Apple of vaping set-up. Some people are still chasing the latest and greatest hoping to find their Apple.
Best advice I can give the OP is to research the products that are out there.
Best advice I can give the OP is to research the products that are out there.
It's just as I thought. You're all Linux users. Wondering why the rest of the world isn't building their own robots.
I am close to my Apple. Mostly, that concerns the topper for me. I tend to find "very good" and buy 3-4 so that I can enjoy them more. I just keep different flavors in each. I still try others though, but I am particular.
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