Where is the Apple of vaping?

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SomeTexan

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What could be simpler than the current state of vaping? I've got a Snow Wolf and a Smok TCT. Just fill with juice, screw onto mod and vape. Temp control stops dry hits and you can adjust the temp to perfect the flavor for you. Coils are good for about 3 weeks and if you can't figure out how to change them you need to slam a heavy door on your head until the world goes black. I still have rda's for when I want to build and enjoy the hobby aspect of vaping. Using one now actually. It takes all of 5 min to wrap a coil, mount it and wick it. Not exactly rocket science...
 

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What you want is a disposable setup it sounds like. Which is fine, but I prefer a setup that I have control over and doesn't cost an arm and a leg. I spent money one time, I have a rebuildable tank and a removable battery. If I upgrade, I upgrade. If I break it and have to replace it that's on me. But I prefer to buy wire and cotton. It's like rolling vs premade. You can save a lot of money rolling your own cigarettes and plenty of people do that. More so in Europe than here because of the cost I guess. If you want an average vape experience comparable to a cigarette get a disposable, like cigarettes are. If you want to blow competition quality clouds, and have a flavor intensity like no other, you're going to have to work for it.

And it's funny you compare companies to Apple.. Apple made a closed system with few options. I work in the graphic industry and nobody uses apple. The software doesn't work well, the hardware is eh, and they are too expensive. At my pretty expensive private college everybody was always mystified that we didn't have a plethora of apple computers because of the Apple and graphics software myth...then I showed them the apple computer room. Brand new computers that stumbled on Adobe software, and couldn't even network render in Maya. So we used computers 4 years older in the pc lab because they worked, there's just so much software out there for pc that isn't available for Apple.

I don't want a closed system. I want an open platform.. One that's open to new ideas and has enough options so that everybody can find a setup that works for them. I don't want a company like ipv to push a new device on me just because the screen is bigger.
 

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A lot. Search the threads for leaks, gurgles, dry hits, and burnt cotton. lol
Not everyone want's the hobby of building coils and wicking. I think that's the point here.

That's because new vapers are convinced they need high powered mods, RDAs and cotton wicking- by YouTube, B&Ms and forums like this one; vape shops are laughing all the way to the bank...
 

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A lot. Search the threads for leaks, gurgles, dry hits, and burnt cotton. lol
Not everyone want's the hobby of building coils and wicking. I think that's the point here.
I haven't heard of any of those issues with the TCT. Some people claim a lack of flavor, but taste is subjective. If we were stuck with cookie cutter crap, people wouldn't be able to choose something to their taste. There is plenty of reliable, simple to use gear.
 

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A note on context. I have worked in the technology field for 20 years. I spent 5 years of that doing desktop support (mostly Windows). Ten years I spent doing e-learning, noticing how software wasn't as easy as it should be for 50 year old English professors or 19 year old freshmen. The remainder was spent as a product manager at an innovative software company having to wrangle the desires of support, sales, engineering, executives and marketing in order to come up with the right product enhancements.

In other words, I don't know everything--but an ignoramus I'm not. I can see very clearly when a product is in its infancy. Vaping right now is like computing in 1993. You had to know the command line. You had to know a lot of things to make everything work right. It was really important that you understood things like RAM and drivers and other things that a 20 year old computer user today wouldn't give a rip about. Those of us who occupy these forums (excepting the newcomer section) are like the nerds of bygone computer eras, wondering why everyone isn't in their basements recompiling their own linux kernels and building their own robots.

Yes, that's it. Vaping is the Linux of smoking. One day it'll be come Mac OS X.
One day it'll be come Mac OS X
and become overcome by windoze

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I haven't heard of any of those issues with the TCT. Some people claim a lack of flavor, but taste is subjective. If we were stuck with cookie cutter crap, people wouldn't be able to choose something to their taste. There is plenty of reliable, simple to use gear.

That's one reason I fear regulation and the .gov trying to make them safer by limiting what we can use instead of teaching people that you need to learn or you'll burn.
 
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I haven't heard of any of those issues with the TCT. Some people claim a lack of flavor, but taste is subjective. If we were stuck with cookie cutter crap, people wouldn't be able to choose something to their taste. There is plenty of reliable, simple to use gear.
Glad it works for you. High power open air flow high vg, right? Tell you what, try vaping the TCT, or any bottom coil tank, on a hot 95 degree day outside vaping 70pg/30vg at 10w or so mouth to lung and tell me how it goes. Gurgles and floods ...so yes, improvements are needed.
 

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That's one reason I fear regulation and the .gov trying to make them safer by limiting what we can use instead of teaching people that you need to learn or you'll burn.
I like things not being idiot proof. I get to laugh at stupid people. I hate it when the government, or anyone for that matter, thinks they have to make everything idiot proof. That's the best form of population control there is... Personally, I think more complicated is better. I've been meaning to get myself a mech mod, or just make one.
 

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That's because new vapers are convinced they need high powered mods, RDAs and cotton wicking- by YouTube, B&Ms and forums like this one; vape shops are laughing all the way to the bank...
Good points! Vaping nasty dual coil kanger silica is what convinced me to go cotton though lol
 
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I don't mind the bottom fill. Premade coils....I may look into that. But what would I do with all this wire!?!? :blink:

Sorry, just in a weird place right now. LOL

You could make Christmas prezzies.

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Glad it works for you. High power open air flow high vg, right? Tell you what, try vaping the TCT, or any bottom coil tank, on a hot 95 degree day outside vaping 70pg/30vg at 10w or so mouth to lung and tell me how it goes. Gurgles and floods ...so yes, improvements are needed.
I'm pg sensitive, so I have zero reason to use pg heavy juice. It is temp control, so there is zero reason to set it at 10w. You can turn the temp down to cut the vapor back if you want though, and you can close of the airflow. I do that so my girlfriend can try my flavors. Also, I couldn't quit the cigs until I went dtl on sub ohm gear so mtl means nothing to me. People tend to forget that cigs made them cough until they got used to them, why should dtl vaping be any different? As for high temps, any sealed tank will build pressure in the heat, bottom feeders are the answer to that.
 

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I'm pg sensitive, so I have zero reason to use pg heavy juice. It is temp control, so there is zero reason to set it at 10w. You can turn the temp down to cut the vapor back if you want though, and you can close of the airflow. I do that so my girlfriend can try my flavors. Also, I couldn't quit the cigs until I went dtl on sub ohm gear so mtl means nothing to me. People tend to forget that cigs made them cough until they got used to them, why should dtl vaping be any different? As for high temps, any sealed tank will build pressure in the heat, bottom feeders are the answer to that.
Good points. I don't like bottom feeders so I look forward to improvements. Which is the point of this thread :)
 
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Glad it works for you. High power open air flow high vg, right? Tell you what, try vaping the TCT, or any bottom coil tank, on a hot 95 degree day outside vaping 70pg/30vg at 10w or so mouth to lung and tell me how it goes. Gurgles and floods ...so yes, improvements are needed.
Just move to Canada, you'll only have to deal with 95 degree days a couple times a year, oh and the best is your clouds look huge when its cold outside :D

but going with this thread, that is a good idea for the advancement of vaping, a pressure release valve for hot days ;)
 
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Good points. I don't like bottom feeders so I look forward to improvements. Which is the point of this thread :)
There is the fix, a bottom feed atty with a screw in, temp control coil. There was a thread about an atty that was bottom feed in itself, not a bottom feed mod, something like that with a simple screw in coil would be the cure all for high temps. Damn, I need a shop so a can set up my mill...
 
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My kids have to show me how to use my smart phone but I know how to use my mod. I don't want Apple involved in vaping...that would just confuse me.

The Apple iPuff Touchscreen Mod with built in MP3 player, comes with free Apple iJuice just 499$
 

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Just move to Canada, you'll only have to deal with 95 degree days a couple times a year, oh and the best is your clouds look huge when its cold outside :D

but going with this thread, that is a good idea for the advancement of vaping, a pressure release valve for hot days ;)
Hey man, I love Canada haha :)
 
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