Where on earth can I find a good mech mod?

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aPandaz

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Keep an eye out for the Poldiac. They come in stock on a regular basis.

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Some nice stuff is coming out of the Philippines...I'm waiting on a few.

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...China has an economy. The optimist in me likes to believe that not every single manufacturing scenario in China is dismal. I have no reservations about part of my money ending up in the hands of a fellow human being that worked to create an item I want, even though they may be on the other side of the planet we both inhabit...

That's deep, eh! Loved that.
 

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VapourArt is constantly making their mods. They're a crew of 4 so they handle production and customer service better when they release them in batches. That makes it near impossible to go straight there and add a PAPS to your cart, but you can listen for the next release date and plan accordingly, which is every couple weeks. They're not unobtainable, it's nothing like waiting a half year on a co-op, and the price is not prohibitive like with some mods.

Not trying to sway anyone away from China, I have those too, just think some folks are a little impatient when labeling the GP mods as unobtainable. They're constantly being produced with upgrades, replacement parts are always available, instant CS from perseas and they ship to the US faster than lot of people IN the US, no joke.
 
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    Materials in body and contact: sig#8 has all stainless body and all brass contact. Also, i assume you are talking about voltage drop. Well, PBusardo did a quick comparison and found that the Adam and the EA has larger voltage drop than a cheap Sigelei tele.
    Machining and finish: anyone with a Sig#8 will testify to that.
    Switch design: again, my Sigeleis have buttery smooth switch with locking ring. Bottom fire mods can be found under $40.
    Warranty and repair: 2 things. One, mechs rarely if ever go wrong, thats a big reason why people use mechs to start with. Two, vendors have DOA policy.
    Apart from that, lets do an equity calculation: suppose the value of having a mechanical mod functioning well and does what its supposed to is $V. Assume, also, for simplicity, that a China clone that fits into that category costs $50 (and thats an expensive clone - most are $40). Now, assume that 1 in every 1000 clones goes bad (thats a very generous number - i have never ever heard of a clone going wrong) and once it does you have to throw it away. Suppose a $200 high end mech never goes wrong (if it does there is warranty and repair, so its safe to calculate as if it never does).

    Then the equity you get for a clone is V - 50 - 50*1/1000= V - 50.05 dollars
    Whereas the high end one is V - 200 dollars

    Huge equity loss: you are effectively throwing away $149.95 in a single purchase.

    The loss can be justified if the mod is treated as a collectors item, or was purchased for and/ or to suit a certain topper, since the V of the two mods wont be the same; the owner gets utility out of simply owning the mech to look at/ take pictures etc.. But if we are talking strictly about functions - as the OP was - then it is an incorrect decision to buy the high end mod.

    Im not saying it is wrong to own a high end: i want a Vela too. But if you buy one, know why you are buying it. Know exactly what you are paying for. That knowledge is exactly the difference between a smart vaper and an ignorant fanboy.

    Do you have any idea of how many different grades of stainless steel there are? Saying something is made of SS is about like saying they used iron ore to make the metal. The same can be said of brass.

    Really glad you like your Sig#8, I don't have one, so I won't say anything good or bad about it.

    The fact is the OP expressed a desire for a high end mechanical mod, and to answer his question ... yes they are hard to find. They are mainly made in one man machine shops during a machinists spare time. Most machinists really do have a job, and need to do that before they can kick out a few mods.
     

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    I own both high end mechs, and clones made in Asia. Both work just fine, and 90% I reach for a clone when im heading out the door for the simple reasons that a) they work just as well in most cases, and b) the cost me under $50 so I dont have to worry about them as much.

    I received a Sigelei 19 yesterday that I ordered on Friday from Sun Vapers. For just over $50 I got two 18650's, a single slot charger, a CE style tank (which will be given away as I dont like them), and the mod itself which is AWESOME. Rock solid, butter smooth threads and trigger, fantastic brushed SS finish.

    Look, I get the high priced mods..i collect watches too, my collection contains some really high end pieces that took me a while to track down. Most days I reach for a mid priced ($500-1500) one when Im on my way out to the office, for a lot of the same reasons. I see the same attitude in that community; non-swiss made watches are crap...blah blah blah. Truth is Asia has gotten a alot better over the years, and there is crap in every segment of the market, just like with mods.

    Meh, I buy and use what I like, not what someone else likes. I form my own opinions from my own experiences....you should too :vapor:
     

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    I love my Sig #8 and they are still available! Vaportekusa has them for $33 and some change.

    "Lots of stuff coming out of China is cheaply made, blah, blah, blah" and "Real pain to return a DOA, blah, blah, blah" and further "China uses cheap steel, blah, blah, blah"

    OK, good points, for *some* things. In this case we are talking about a mechanical mod. A tube, a switch, and a 510 battery connector. That's it!!! You can't get any more simple than a mech and because of it's simplicity I can't imagine how one from any manufacturer could be DOA if it was finished to the same point that the others in the same run were. A warranty? Against what?

    I would argue that ALL mechanical mods, regardless of price, are MORE a like than they are different. If one has silver contacts (the best conductor) or something then it would logically cost more to produce and should garner a higher retail price, but let's face it... Most "collectible" mods are only recognized as such because of a serial number artfully engraved below a (usually) equally artful company logo. They are still thick walled steel tubes with precision machining but ultimately work the same way a "clone" does. Some of the pricier ones might actually be *over* machined, the threads "buttery" smooth and an absolutely flawless finish. They might use the best quality metal tubes available, titanium or unobtanium or whatever. No one is going to shoot it out of a cannon against a brick wall to see if it breaks any sooner than a Chinese clone so what's the point? It will work the exact same way as a cheaper "clone" of a similar design. A tube. A switch. A 510 connector. That's it.

    I can buy a new Porsche 911 Turbo for around $100,000 or I can buy a straight, clean, imported commuter car for about a tenth of that price that will take me to the corner store and back, functionally the same way as the Porsche did. Even if I throw another $90,000 into a show car paint job, super stereo system and a bunch of bling it still performs it's designed function in more or less the same way as the Porsche. And so it is with mechanical mods.

    "I want to buy things made in my country, blah, blah, blah..."

    How very valiant of you. Stop worrying about a tube made of steel and start checking the labels in your tennis shoes, clothes and consumer electronics, especially your batteries, egos, tanks and the rest of your vaping hardware. When everything says "Made in USA" (or whatever your country of origin may be) please do report back ;)

    "I want to support (American) businesses."

    That's why I buy my Chinese products from an American vendor. Everyone talks about how much money goes to elsewhere, like every dollar is making someone rich, somewhere. Things cost money to make. From the raw materials and steel mill to the machining, assembly and marketing. Even if an American vendor only makes a $5 profit on a mod made in China they are still very likely making more profit than the guy that built it.

    Buy what YOU like but if you think that a $200 mechanical mod is somehow going to operate four times better than a $50 import, think again.

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    Sorry your thread go hijacked brother. In an attempt to get this thread back on topic, patience is the key. As far as Paps, Gus, Atmomixani mods go, they always post release dates of their gear over in the Euro Suppliers forum. MMV stocks the Poldiac fairly reguarly also. And if paitence isn't your thing you can always get verified & surf the classies. Cheers!
     
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