which battery can i get?

[jackbauerctu777]

i need an 18650 battery for my smok priv ... i need to know if i can get these Google Express

i don't want my face to explode.. i just want the cheapest best battery i can get and this seems like a great deal. does anyone know about this kind of thing?

 

[sdennislee]

You want the safest battery you can get at a good price so your face doesn't explode.

You need to purchase batteries from a trusted source to avoid cheap or counterfeit rewraps.

Here is a list of trusted batteries
Sony VTC6 15 amp 3000 mah
Samsung 30Q 15 amp 3000 mah
LG HG2 20 amp 3000 mah
Sony VTC5A 25 amp 2600 mah
LG HB6 30 amp 1500 mah
HB 2 & 4 also 30 amp but harder to find

Mooch's list of trusted vendors has several options.
www.akkuteile.de
www.batterybro.com
www.ecoluxshopdirect.co.uk
www.illumn.com
www.imrbatteries.com
www.liionwholesale.com
www.nkon.nl
www.orbtronic.com
www.rtdvapor.com

Watch Mooch's Minding Your mah's video series

 

[jackbauerctu777]

how does the difference in amperage effect vaping? does that mean that the battery drains faster but has better 'hits' if its higher?

-- edit.. also, can someone please let me know if the link for the battery i found is safe to use for vaping? because its a great deal with more mah

 

[bombastinator]

how does the difference in amperage effect vaping? does that mean that the battery drains faster but has better 'hits' if its higher?

Batteries have two amperage ratings: total capacity and discharge rate. Generally batteries with higher discharge rates have less total capacity. Discharge rate governs what wattage you can vape at while total capacity governs how long a battery will last.
To make it more fun third party battery rewrappers like to lie uproariously about these numbers, so going with the battery with the highest numbers will probably net you a battery that is garbage.
Luckily there is Mooch.
He has a blog here where he tests and posts actual ratings for batteries.

 

[suprtrkr]

Hi, and welcome to the board. If you will tell me what wattage you normally use, and the highest you will ever use, I will make a recommendation. In general, for 20A cells like the HG2, figure 60 watts per battery as a rule of thumb. 1 battery, 60 watts. 2 batteries, 120 watts. 3 batteries, 180 watts, etc. I definitely agree: stick to name brand cells from trusted retailers, and check Mooch's chart when considering your needs. As for cheapest, what's your face worth? If you have to pay a dollar per battery more to buy from a known retailer, or to buy a name brand, consider the extra expense-- if you buy 4, a dollar more is 4 bucks-- and weigh it against the value of your face. Just my

 

[sdennislee]

Which SMOK Priv do you have? What wattage do you typically use when vaping?

 

[jackbauerctu777]

the wattage is unchangeable on the one i have i think its called v8.. but i'm not sure..

thank you guys for the information.. i don't quite understand it all ..

 

[sonicbomb]

Do you have a Smok Priv or a V8?

 

[jackbauerctu777]

i looked up my purchase history on ebay .. its a smok priv v8.. here is the link
SMOK1 PRIV V8 60W Mod Starter Full Vape1 Kit with 3ml TFV8 Baby Beast Tank Coils | eBay

 

[DaveP]

It looks like a mech mod with protection. The only wattage adjustment is accomplished by changing the coil resistance. There's no listed power control, but the ad content suggests it's PWM with changing wattage base on the coil installed.

Priv V8 - SMOK® Innovation keeps changing the vaping experience!

 

[stols001]

No I do not suggest the battery you found really cheaply on some random site. The good news is you've gotten plenty of good advice on batteries. So, since it's a fixed wattage type deal, what type of resistance coil are you planning to use on top?

Also, this is just not a setup I'd recommend for a beginning person. Also, have you checked the authenticity codes on your mod from ebay, to make sure it's not a clone (cheap, faked copy) and that is authentic and not "refurbished" so to speak?

I'm not meaning to be a complainant it's just you got this Smok (less reliable brand) off ebay (really not a great place to buy mod equipment unless you 100% know what you are doing etc.) and now you are asking about the cheapest batteries you can obtain.

To me, this kind of seems a little bit like a recipe for disaster, any willingness to send it all back, buy a (potentially slightly more expensive but far safer) setup for your first day out and vaping?

When you vape, you deal with very, very powerful amounts of energy, surprisingly so in fact. Lithium Ion batteries are no place to "cheap out" and certainly, putting them in a cloned, half working and/or otherwise unreliable device with little protection just seems like a bit of a risk for a new vaper. Not saying you are anything other than NEW, hence, inherently uninformed. I was too. Then I learned.

So any chance to divert you to another track at all? I'm just asking. BUT DO check your authenticity codes, and stick around, you will keep learning.

Anna

 

[sdennislee]

At 60 watts you would be safe with a battery capable of 20 amps. This assumes you bought an authentic properly working mod from eBay.

If you intend to continue to vape please watch the entire Minding your mahs series from Mooch on Youtube. Tons of great battery safety information. Quality batteries are not overly expensive especially when you consider how long they last if treated properly. Not the area where you want to try and save a couple bucks.

Any of these would work

LG HG2 20 amp 3000 mah

Sony VTC5A 25 amp 2600 mah

LG HB6 30 amp 1500 mah

HB 2 & 4 also 30 amp but harder to find

 

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I didn't read the link properly

For a 60 watt device a good quality 20 amp CDR battery is the way to go.
The Samsung 30Q or the LG HG2 would be the way to go.

UK/Europe

Batteries Plus - Specialists in rechargeable batteries for cordless phone, mobile phone, digital camera, solar light and torch batteries and a large range of button cells, all at Batteries Plus in the UK
Fogstar - The UK's #1 trusted source of 18650 Batteries
NKON | nkon.nl
Myepack.co.uk


North America

www.liionwholesale.com
www.imrbatteries.com
www.illumn.com
www.rtdvapor.com
www.batterybro.com
www.orbtronic.com

 

[sdennislee]

The V8 appears to have a non-replaceable built in battery.

THis link was posted earlier Priv V8 - SMOK® Innovation keeps changing the vaping experience! if this is the one it uses an 18650 but I'm not positive this is the right link either

 

[sonicbomb]

I edited my post

 

[Zaryk]

It looks like a mech mod with protection. The only wattage adjustment is accomplished by changing the coil resistance. There's no listed power control, but the ad content suggests it's PWM with changing wattage base on the coil installed.

Priv V8 - SMOK® Innovation keeps changing the vaping experience!

That is definitely NOT a PWM. It is a simple unregulated device similar to the original Pico squeeze.

 

[sdennislee]

That is definitely NOT a PWM. It is a simple unregulated device similar to the original Pico squeeze.

Are you sure?

 

[Zaryk]

Are you sure?

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Positive. A pwm is a unregulated mod with a potentiometer (some newer models have a screen) that controls the frequency in which it turns on and off (or pulses). This has no pwm chip in it. They are misusing the term. Ive never even seen a single battery pwm before either.


Edit- I get what they are claiming here, it is designed to turn on and off similar to a pwm when the ohms are too low so it doesn't go over 60w. But it still is not an actual pwm mod. It is like calling a regulated mod running bypass a mech.

 

[Baditude]

i need an 18650 battery for my smok priv ... i need to know if i can get these Google Express

i don't want my face to explode.. i just want the cheapest best battery i can get and this seems like a great deal. does anyone know about this kind of thing?

how does the difference in amperage effect vaping? does that mean that the battery drains faster but has better 'hits' if its higher?

-- edit.. also, can someone please let me know if the link for the battery i found is safe to use for vaping? because its a great deal with more mah

The battery's amp rating (continuous discharge rating) should be your first priority when shopping for batteries. Next, the capacity (mAh rating) can then be considered.

Having said that, you don't need a 30 amp battery if you are only vaping at 30 watts. A 30 amp battery may have only 1500 mAh, while a 15 amp battery will have twice the capacity for longer run time.

Therefore, choose the battery based upon the highest wattage setting that you will be using, determined by the amp rating first, and the mAh rating second.

WATTAGE PER SINGLE BATTERY on REGULATED MOD:
(Total wattage doubles using 2 batteries; Triples using 3 batteries.)

Up to 45W:

Samsung 18650 30Q, 3000 mah 15 amp CDR

Sony 18650VTC6 3000mAh 15 amp CDR

Up to 60W:

LG 18650HG2 3000mah 20 amp CDR

LG 18650HE4 2500 mah 20 amp CDR

Samsung 18650-25R, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR

Sanyo UR18650NSX, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR

Sony 18650VTC5, 2600 mah 20 amp CDR

Sony 18650VTC4, 2100 mah 23 amp CDR

Up to 75W:

LG 18650 HD4 2100 mah 25 amp CDR

LG 18650 HD2 2000 mah 25 amp CDR

Samsung 18650-24S, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR

Sony 18650VTC5A, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR

Up to 90W:

LG18650HB6 1500mah 30 amp CDR

LG18650HB2 1500mAh 30 amp CDR

LG18650HB4 1500mAh 30 amp CDR

Samsung 18650-20S 2000mah 30 amp CDR

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The batteries that you linked to would be a POOR choice to use. They are for flashlights ("high capacity" batteries). You need a "high drain" battery like I show above. There is a huge difference between their performance.

"High capacity" batteries like you linked to have only a 3 - 4 amp rating, and would be ineffective in a "high drain" device like a mod. Higher mAh batteries does not mean they are better batteries.

Batteries are the most important part of your setup. Don't try to cheap out with cheap batteries. Good name brand batteries are worth the extra $1 - $2 they will cost and last you 1 - 2 years. Choosing higher grade batteries will allow your mod to perform to its optimum potential.

 

[DaveP]

Positive. A pwm is a unregulated mod with a potentiometer (some newer models have a screen) that controls the frequency in which it turns on and off (or pulses). This has no pwm chip in it. They are misusing the term. Ive never even seen a single battery pwm before either.


Edit- I get what they are claiming here, it is designed to turn on and off similar to a pwm when the ohms are too low so it doesn't go over 60w. But it still is not an actual pwm mod. It is like calling a regulated mod running bypass a mech.

Pulse Width Modulation is PWM. The mod varies the frequency (on time) to adjust the vape strength. In this case PWM is used to adjust voltage frequency to accommodate different resistance coils. PWM is the standard for variable mods. A mech operates on battery voltage. When the cell is fully charged the vape is hotter. As the battery lowers in voltage over time the vape quality declines. On a mech the resistance of the coil determines output levels.

This one apparently uses PWM with no variable pulse width/ frequency control. It is similar to a mech in that respect, but it also offers levels of protection and battery voltage and coil resistance sensing.

I guess we could refer to it as a non-variable PWM device with built in protection circuits ... an electronic mech device.