which carto should I buy?

[esteebs]

which carto should I buy? I am vaping a Lavatube with 4 ml tank system. The carto I have currently came with the unit. the tank is a volcano. I am vaping at 3.7 on a 1.5 ohm and that works good for me. I just need to know what to buy as spare carto..... what resistance etc. dual or not etc. If i go up to 3 ohm can I go to 6v?
esteebs

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

Hi & Welcome to ECF! I've never used a Lavatube so I'm afraid I can't be much help suggesting which, but I would suggest trying several different ones (including single coil of various resistance ratings) deemed suitable for your system. From what I have read about the Lavatube it will give you a *lot* of room to experiment in order to find what works best for you with your preferred flavors, etc.

Folks with much more knowledge & experience should be around shortly. Meantime, Happy Vaping!

 

[jbchickenhead]

Take a look at the Boge 2.0 and Boge 3.0 Carts. They are pretty nice and seem to last quite a while. Also the Reserator 1.7 is a good cart (and a bit longer). Just got some Reserator's from Mom and Pop Vapor Shop and they are dual punched to help avoid getting clogged.

Jeff

 

[elfstone]

Hi, esteebs, and welcome to the ECF!

The problem is that a regular Boge 3.0 Ohm most likely will not fit in the tank. Since it looks like the Tube Tank from Volcano takes a dual coil carto, I think the Boge would be too short.

I think you can go with a Smoktech dual coil, or even with the Resurrector (a long single coil). Otherwise there are XL Boge cartos, but I'm not sure which would fit or where to find them

Wait to see if someone who actually has that tank chimes in.

 

[micksf]

I am also a fan of the Boge. I use the Low resistance (2.0) but have also found my second choice is the Smoktech 1.7 (also called "the resurrector") a good alternative. both can be found at Crystal Clear Vaping (CCV) at a good price, especially in the 15 carto deal and with free shipping...

https://crystalclearvaping.3dcartstores.com/15-Carto-Deals_c_26.html

 

[newq]

if you check out pbasardos video he goes over the max voltage which can be applied to any ohm carto with the mod. The highest range of possibilities come from 2.0 or 2.5 ohm cartos. Generally the LT will only push 10watts max out ot any carto

Doing your homework with pbusardos video you can calculate the max wattage with any carto by using this simple formula:

(Volts times itself) volts x volts divided by ohms = watts
So if we are vaping at 4v with a 2ohm carto the math would look like this
4v x 4v = 16power / 2ohm = 8watts

you vape at 3.7 with a 1.5 ohm carto the lavataube sees this in its full present state but will only let you vape up to 3.9v with this carto.

Your calculation would be
3.7x3.7 = 13.69 / 1.5 = 9.126 watts

long story short, the LT has the widest range of operating wattange with a 2ohm or 2.5ohm carto ranging from 4.5 watts to twelve. ALL OTHER CARTOS RANGE FROM 4.5 TO 10 watts. Therefore LT's gain the extra 2 watts at 2 or 2.5 ohm.

If you have a lavatube tube tank , the smoktech DCT's will be a direct replacement and can be found at several retailers however I recommend madvapes.com

Thanks to Phil Busardo for his in depth research of the device, we appreciate your knowledge and thorough reporting for the video see this link

 

[FriedLiverAtack]

With a lavatube you save a lot of trouble because you don't have to be particular about resistance. If you adjust for resistance all Boge, or all Smoktech SC, or all Smoktech DC, etc vape the same. It is largely finding which carto gives you the vape that is best for you. For me it is the Smoktech single coils, but this is entirely subjective and everyone has their own opinion.

Higher resistance generally gives you better battery life on a VV device. 2.5 ohm is 10W at 5V and 3.0 ohm is 10W at 5.5V, either of these work well on a VV.

I suggest you try a box of smoktech single coils and dual coils to start off wit. If you get a extender of some sort you can try the shorter cartos such as Boge. Hoosiers has both single coil and dual coil cartos prepunched with flanges although I prefer/insist on punching my own cartos. Just make sure you buy the XL Single Coils (note that Boge XL cartos are still too short).

 

[jbchickenhead]

Thats right, the regular Boge's will not fit...

My bad.

Jeff

Hi, esteebs, and welcome to the ECF!

The problem is that a regular Boge 3.0 Ohm most likely will not fit in the tank. Since it looks like the Tube Tank from Volcano takes a dual coil carto, I think the Boge would be too short.

I think you can go with a Smoktech dual coil, or even with the Resurrector (a long single coil). Otherwise there are XL Boge cartos, but I'm not sure which would fit or where to find them

Wait to see if someone who actually has that tank chimes in.

 

[FriedLiverAtack]

Boge XL are still too short for a XL "DC" tank. There is a SS drip tip at Clouds of Vapor that allows you to use regular cartos in a DC type tank.

Thats right, the regular Boge's will not fit...

My bad.

Jeff

 

[micksf]

Boge 45mm cartos coming soon, really soon I hear. will make them long enough for the DCTanks.

 

[FriedLiverAtack]

All the power/volt/amp/resistance mathematics are mostly meaningless if you have a variable volt. Except for satisfy curiosity. Buy medium to high resistance resistance cartos such as the 2.5 and 3.0 ohm and adjust to where you like the vape. Numbers are irrelevant except to find your way back to a setting that has worked for you in the past with a particular carto/atty.

 

[elfstone]

All the power/volt/amp/resistance mathematics are mostly meaningless if you have a variable volt. Except for satisfy curiosity. Buy medium to high resistance resistance cartos such as the 2.5 and 3.0 ohm and adjust to where you like the vape. Numbers are irrelevant except to find your way back to a setting that has worked for you in the past with a particular carto/atty.

Wouldn't LR still drain your battery faster than a SR at the same power? Battery capacity depends on rate of discharge, so I'm guessing. I'm no electrician so, if anyone knows for sure...

 

[FriedLiverAtack]

Wouldn't LR still drain your battery faster than a SR at the same power? Battery capacity depends on rate of discharge, so I'm guessing. I'm no electrician so, if anyone knows for sure...

Yes. I tested this by keeping track of how long into the day batteries last before they fail. Not a laboratory test but enough to satisfy me.

When I said that the math isn't necessary, I was trying to say that the calculations are not necessary long as you stay with resistances that are in the correct range. 2.5 to 3.0 being ideal. You can do 3.5's as well although some VV devices (such as a Infinity Pro) can't hit high enough voltage to get up to around 10W. I don't own a lavatube so I don't know it's exact range.

Some people get so hung up on the numbers on the meter they forget that they should simply be looking for whatever vapes best for them. Sometimes this changes with the juice. I usually vape just shy of 10 watts with a single coil carto. But I don't need to do any math to find that spot. If I find the right spot by "feel," on a device w/o a built in meter, when metered it will be between 9 & 10 W.

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

I believe the simplest way to look at this whole current/voltage/resistance business is to think of the current (amps) as water flowing through a garden hose. At the inlet end of that hose is an elevated tank holding X gallons/liters/whatever of water - except in our electrical application it's a battery holding X mAh of current. The weight of the water in that tank pushes the water through the faucet into the hose; this "pressure", in electrical terms, is voltage. Resistance occurs when you put a kink in the hose, restricting the flow of current. This also creates what is called a "pressure drop" (or voltage drop) because it uses some of the pressure (voltage) at that point, resulting in there being that much less at points beyond. And Wattage, BTW, is simply power. The aforementioned events each represent uses of power; wattage all that together.

I haven't fiddled with such stuff much since I forgot how to use my slide rule so anyone please feel free to correct any misstatements I may have (and probably) made... I won't be offended. I'm thinking, it would be nice if folks could sort of visualize the mysterious behavior of these little invisible electrons and why they act like they do. This is pretty much how it was explained to me about 40 years ago & it made right good sense at the time so I figured I'd toss it out here. Hope it helps.

Happy Vaping!

 

[hairball]

Unfortunately, I haven't had a 3ohm cartomizer stay at 6V on the lavatube. You'll have to go to madvapes and get some that are a higher ohm.

To the person who asked about a boge that will fit a DCT, you need to buy the new XXL Boge. One vendor, crystalclearvaping, calls them the Mega XL Boge.

 

[micksf]

ah yes, I see that now. that's great news. have to wait for the LR version I guess, they only have SR.

Unfortunately, I haven't had a 3ohm cartomizer stay at 6V on the lavatube. You'll have to go to madvapes and get some that are a higher ohm.

To the person who asked about a boge that will fit a DCT, you need to buy the new XXL Boge. One vendor, crystalclearvaping, calls them the Mega XL Boge.

 

[FriedLiverAtack]

I think 2.5 ohm are great, like I said they run great at about 5v which is a nice mid-range area. I must admit I am using 2 ohm smoktechs right now on my SaberTouch VV because I found a sale on them. That is the nice thing about variable voltage, it will run just about anything except the bizarrely high voltage/high resistance stuff.