Which one to buy and who has the best price

[SGorman1202]

I have been using ego twists for quite a while now and I am looking into buying something new. I am on a budget, so obviously a Provari is out of the question. I have been researching for 2 days now, and I am stuck between an Itaste or a Vamo. Does anyone have any pros/cons for these? I want one that can read the carto and adjust to it. Also, does anyone know of any good kit deals for these, as I would need the batteries and charger for it. Thank you

 

[eagarcia123]

if you really are on a budget, the itaste mvp kit is on electronicstix.com for 51.99 and it really is a solid device. the only,downside to the mvp is that it has no ohm reader. the vamo is the better of the 2 options since it vv and vw along with the ohm reader you are looking. the potential downside for you is that if you dont have the batteries or charger, you are looking up to spend 80 plus

 

[SGorman1202]

I don't mind spending around $80 or so for everything. Just can't spend over $100 like some of these cost.

 

[wolfstone5]

You can't go wrong with the Vamo. I picked one up as a back up for my ProVari and ZMax and I absolutely love it. It's easy to operate and quite versatile with the different combinations of batteries that it can accept.

 

[cyclotron]

Second the vote on the Vamo. For roughly 50USD you get a very good deal on a VW/VV device. I have the SS edition and it is super solid.

 

[yellowrider]

Second the vote on the Vamo. For roughly 50USD you get a very good deal on a VW/VV device. I have the SS edition and it is super solid.

And add battery, charger, tank.... Another 50 easy.
dont get fooled by the 30/40 dollar vamos that take a month to receive. That's just the tube. And if it came in a kit, with unknown battery and equipment, you probably don't want it in-case it blows up in your face while your making out with it.
Vamo and all needed/unneeded info is flooded in this site. Some good deals everywhere but by the time you order from 2-3 vendors, the savings is offset by multiple shipping prices. Real price for decent starter kit for vamo is more like in the ballpark of 100.

 

[SavePaperVapor]

You have to add a battery/charger/tank whatever to all of the units. Not sure what your getting at yellowrider.

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[yellowrider]

just stating real world prices.. Didn't feel that it was that difficult to understand.

 

[SavePaperVapor]

just stating real world prices.. Didn't feel that it was that difficult to understand.

You are right. but you forgot to point out that they need electricity to charge the batteries.

 

[yellowrider]

lol.. what is your problem? Go kick rocks buddy. Seriously.....

 

[sacricide]

I have been using ego twists for quite a while now and I am looking into buying something new. I am on a budget, so obviously a Provari is out of the question. I have been researching for 2 days now, and I am stuck between an Itaste or a Vamo. Does anyone have any pros/cons for these? I want one that can read the carto and adjust to it. Also, does anyone know of any good kit deals for these, as I would need the batteries and charger for it. Thank you

you can jump in on the segelei zmax co-op, and few others and get a great device for the money. or a vamo

 

[Fury83]

You are right. but you forgot to point out that they need electricity to charge the batteries.

The itaste doesn't need anything but to be plugged in. Some things are sold in worthwhile kits and in some kits contain stuff I wouldn't trust.

The point is that the price bandied for the Vamo is basically for the tube and not a realistic price of being able to use a vamo for someone who is getting their first mod/apv.

 

[kiwivap]

The itaste doesn't need anything but to be plugged in. Some things are sold in worthwhile kits and in some kits contain stuff I wouldn't trust.

The point is that the price bandied for the Vamo is basically for the tube and not a realistic price of being able to use a vamo for someone who is getting their first mod/apv.

Sure it is. Then when they buy a second mod, and maybe a third, they will already have batteries and a charger. So they can buy a Vamo and batteries and charger now, or end up still having to buy them later.

 

[tc1]

Are we talking MVP? If so ... just remember that you'll probably only get 6-12 months of use before it needs replaced.

That's why I'm not a huge fan of built-in proprietary battery mods.

 

[Fury83]

Sure it is. Then when they buy a second mod, and maybe a third, they will already have batteries and a charger. So they can buy a Vamo and batteries and charger now, or end up still having to buy them later.

Nope it isn't. You can't realistically say something will cost a first time mod user less than the money they dish out to get it working based on future use of a battery or charger. They still have to spend the money at that time and it still impacts their decision if it's based partially on a budget. 80 dollars out of someone's pocket is still more than 60 dollars no matter how you justify it.

 

[Fury83]

Are we talking MVP? If so ... just remember that you'll probably only get 6-12 months of use before it needs replaced.

That's why I'm not a huge fan of built-in proprietary battery mods.

Very true. It's not a simple thing and people should consider everything before their purchase. How many people are going to be still on their Vamo in a year though? Seems most people's china mods either break or get replaced in their vaping rotation by next new thing out of china within 6-12 months.

I just think pricing for first time mod (replaceable batter) users is a minimum of 20 bucks over whatever the device itself costs. That's being frugal about it too. I don't have an issue with the Vamo but since price is a big part of it's selling point...I think it gets misrepresented.

 

[kiwivap]

Nope it isn't. You can't realistically say something will cost a first time mod user less than the money they dish out to get it working based on future use of a battery or charger. They still have to spend the money at that time and it still impacts their decision if it's based partially on a budget. 80 dollars out of someone's pocket is still more than 60 dollars no matter how you justify it.

No, what I'm saying is most people get more than one mod. So split the cost of batteries and chargers across the two, three.... or however many. Of course its an addition the first time, but it soon pays off. Most people end up with two at least.
I would not pass on buying a mod because I needed batteries and a charger. I'm just going to face the same issue with mod no. 2. Also, I prefer not to charge replaceable batteries unless on a charger. So even if I bought something that could be charged via usb or charger, I would still use a charger.

The iTaste MVP is a good device - and the newest version will fit T3s. I wouldn't recommend it on the basis of a first mod buyer needing batteries with a Vamo though. Both are good, and both have different features.

 

[Fury83]

No, what I'm saying is most people get more than one mod. So split the cost of batteries and chargers across the two, three.... or however many. Of course its an addition the first time, but it soon pays off. Most people end up with two at least.
I would not pass on buying a mod because I needed batteries and a charger. I'm just going to face the same issue with mod no. 2. Also, I prefer not to charge replaceable batteries unless on a charger. So even if I bought something that could be charged via usb or charger, I would still use a charger.

The iTaste MVP is a good device - and the newest version will fit T3s. I wouldn't recommend it on the basis of a first mod buyer needing batteries with a Vamo though. Both are good, and both have different features.

I can understand your point and it seems, even if you don't agree, you understand mine.

I think the issue for me and it is less related directly with my discussion with you is that people seem to misrepresent the price of the Vamo based on the assumption that everyone already has the ancillaries. It's a fine device for a good price even factoring it in, I just don't call it a 59 (just one site's price) dollar investment. I mean even if you have some some batteries and a charger or will use them in the future, you'll probably get at least an extra battery or two with it (or your second mod if this is number 1) because it's no fun juggling one battery between two devices and you may not have the batteries to use more than one configuration of either mod.

I think the itaste mvp is a good step up device for people who aren't sure if they really want a big battery and/or VV. Some people may never want anything more than an MVP which is functionally a high mah ego twist with buttons instead of a dial. The Vamo is a good device for people who won't the whole bag of tricks for the cheapest amount possible in a proven mod. It's just a bit more expensive to get going with it than the MVP.

 

[kiwivap]

I mean even if you have some some batteries and a charger or will use them in the future, you'll probably get at least an extra battery or two with it (or your second mod if this is number 1) because it's no fun juggling one battery between two devices and you may not have the batteries to use more than one configuration of either mod.

Absolutely. Two of each to start with I'd say. So if its an 18650 mod then at least two 18650s. I have more than two 18650s, and a couple of 18350s. So yes, if the person is starting out with APVs, probably $18-$20 for two batteries, and $10-$20 for charger. TR-001s are cheaper, but take ages to charge the batts. Xstars WPIIs are $20.
So lets say another $40 for batteries and charger. That's good batteries and a good charger.
If the Vamo is the first mod then that's $80 total.

I very nearly bought an MVP myself - I like the form factor of those and would like to add a box pv to my collection at some point. At the moment I have my eye on a few mods. I prefer using VW so those ones tend to win out for me, but I have friends who have the MVP and they love it.

 

[tc1]

Heck, I paid $52 for a vamo kit, 2 18650s, and a 2 bay charger. That's what made me pull the trigger on one to begin with.

Honestly ... both mods are well liked on ECF so it comes down to features and form factor. I wouldn't buy either expecting that they will last forever. I do know that I'm using the heck out of my vamo to test longevity. Its survived 5+ drops so far. lol