Whistle tip alignment vs. atty

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Treeburner1983

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When I'm putting my whistle tip carts on, how should they sit in relation to the atomizer? I got a small melt on my cart from vaping too fast and probably from having it in wrong position. Should the long edge of the cart be parallel to the bridge, with the under-bridge-wick perpendicular, or should the bridge be perpendicular to the long edge of the whistle-tipped cart? I had been doing it the first way, since I figured the under-wick wouldn't be touching anything, but from the look of the melt on the cart it seems like it may have been from the wick, not the bridge. Started putting it on the 2nd way and it seems to work, but want to verify with those who actually know rather than guessing like myself.

Thanks again, other than this minor issue and a small learning curve, I'm loving my 510. Ordered some different flavored juices from MFS today, hopefully will like those a bit better because these Nhaler coffee-flavored liquids are a little too sweet for me (ordered Strawberry, Chocolate, Vanilla and Cappuccino from MFS, got a reply from Chris within minutes, very nice service thusfar :thumbs:).

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What I have done is carefully remove the polyfill or tea bag material (which holds the e-liquid in the cart, rinsed the cart out in hot water and blow it out. Then I scribed a line with a pin approximately 1/8" up from the open end of the cart and using a small file I filed the cart to that line. Using an exacto knife I cleaned up the new end. I replaced the filler material so that it remains flush with the new end and now it doesn't matter how I align the cart with the atomizer.

When I used to align the carts with the atty, the button always seemed to end up in a different position around my e-cig in relation to the position of the flat tip (whistle tip) on my cart with each different atty I used. Now I can always replace my whistle tip cart so my button is always in the same place when the cart is in my mouth.

It also makes it quicker when dipping (which I do 90% of the time) when I don't have to think about alignment. This works for me, but may not work for some.

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Thanks for the replies. I figured the way Robert suggested was actually the correct way, but if you look at the bridge of the atty only it would suggest that the cart would go on the other way. I thought about filing the cart down as well, but I'm getting really good performance out of it now with the stock polyfill junk along with a straw mod, so I think I'll just wait it out and see. I am going to try out the round carts though, I find the whistle tip kind of annoying, although I'm sure it's easier to keep the straw in properly.

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Thanks for the replies. I figured the way Robert suggested was actually the correct way, but if you look at the bridge of the atty only it would suggest that the cart would go on the other way. I thought about filing the cart down as well, but I'm getting really good performance out of it now with the stock polyfill junk along with a straw mod, so I think I'll just wait it out and see. I am going to try out the round carts though, I find the whistle tip kind of annoying, although I'm sure it's easier to keep the straw in properly.

~CTdl

I thought the same thing in the beginning too, like it was 90 deg off from what it was supposed to be. Do this: with the cart off, and a dry atty in place, hold the button down and see how the atty is glowing inside (only a few seconds...this is a "dry burn" and is somewhat hard on the atty). You will see that it is the white base area that is getting glowing hot. That glowing oval must line up with the oval of the cart, or else it will tend to melt the cart a bit. It is also how the most heat gets to the cart.

I have considered the marking thing to make sure I get it right, but I just look inside the atty before putting the cart back in. Or I note where the button is when a particular atty is attached, and use the button for whatever the heating element orientation is...most of the time it lines up with either the long end or the short edge of the heater. Its more than just not wanting to damage the cart...and vape plastic...its really how to get the most vaping from a cart.

I've heard of others that use a dab of whiteout on the side of the atty to mark it...was that you, Robert? BTW you look like a crazed Agent Smith in your avator. Was that planned? :cool:
 

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Thanks for the replies. I figured the way Robert suggested was actually the correct way, but if you look at the bridge of the atty only it would suggest that the cart would go on the other way. I thought about filing the cart down as well, but I'm getting really good performance out of it now with the stock polyfill junk along with a straw mod, so I think I'll just wait it out and see. I am going to try out the round carts though, I find the whistle tip kind of annoying, although I'm sure it's easier to keep the straw in properly.

~CTdl

I have whistle tip with the straw mod and I just keep the straw on the rounded side and aligned with the button on the battery - it works better in the up position for obvious air flow reasons. And this with no mind to alignment. But if you have an alignment consideration .. no problem - get these carts from Totally Wicked:

Refillable Electronic Cigarette Cartridges - DSE901

They're 901's that fit more snuggly than the 510's anyway and they are a two piece cart - like the 801's - where the inner cart well is moveable to any position. As long as your straw is between say 10 and 2 O'clock with 12 being straight up, you should be good.
 

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Kent - you are a wealth of information. I can't thank you enough.

I like to smoke hands free and love whistle tips. I had grown so frustrated with my 501 ecig falling to the ground (while the 501 whistle tip cart was still between my teeth). I have an RN4072 which I learned on ECF is compatible with a 901 - which is the kind of whistle tip cart you recommend using on a 501 (yay). I accidentially put a 901/4072 whistle tip cart on my 501 ecig the other day and was amazed how well it fit. But I was afraid to keep using it (might burn up another atty or something). Glad to know an ECF Vet has sanctioned my use of the 901 whistle tip - thanks again.
 

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Kent - you are a wealth of information. I can't thank you enough.

I like to smoke hands free and love whistle tips. I had grown so frustrated with my 510 ecig falling to the ground (while the 510 whistle tip cart was still between my teeth). I have an RN4072 which I learned on ECF is compatible with a 901 - which is the kind of whistle tip cart you recommend using on a 510 (yay). I accidentially put a 901/4072 whistle tip cart on my 510 ecig the other day and was amazed how well it fit. But I was afraid to keep using it (might burn up another atty or something). Glad to know an ECF Vet has sanctioned my use of the 901 whistle tip - thanks again.

Appreciate the comments. And yes, almost all 901 carts work better with the 510 than the actual 510 carts. While I mentioned the TW 901 carts for the 'alignment' problem with the bridge, I still like the '0' type 901 carts that I used to get at dietsmokes.com but haven't gotten any there lately so not sure what he carries now. But the '0' type cart top is rounded on two sides and flat (not grooved out and two piece like the TW's) on two sides. They also have a good 'hands free' "wide" flat tip (good for holding in your teeth) - the D style is a thin flat tip - not as good for holding in your teeth, imo, anyway. I corrected your dyslexia. You'll be ok now :)
 

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But the '0' type cart top is rounded on two sides and flat (not grooved out and two piece like the TW's) on two sides. They also have a good 'hands free' "wide" flat tip (good for holding in your teeth) - the D style is a thin flat tip - not as good for holding in your teeth, imo, anyway. I corrected your dyslexia. You'll be ok now :)


I think the style you describe is what I am using rather than a true whistle tip. I checked out diet smokes and the kind they carry (sold out right now) looks just like what I use w/my 4072. My RN4075 (I believe) came with true whistle tip carts. Similar in style but round on the ends. Overall I think I like the kind you descibe best. Thanks for the tip re dietsmokes.com, Kent.
 

Kent C

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I think the style you describe is what I am using rather than a true whistle tip. I checked out diet smokes and the kind they carry (sold out right now) looks just like what I use w/my 4072. My RN4075 (I believe) came with true whistle tip carts. Similar in style but round on the ends. Overall I think I like the kind you descibe best. Thanks for the tip re dietsmokes.com, Kent.

They've been sold out for a while now. And I'd check or buy 1 pack before getting a lot. I bought a case from him ;-) The D types used to have some really bad engineering - there was a small end piece in the mouth that you could easily suck into your mouth - the 'floor' of the cart well sometimes moved out of position and you'd get juice in the mouth - the filler was glued to the bottom and if you'd remove it - that would sometimes affect the position of that plate, etc. Plus my lips are bigger than the small thin whistle tip ;-) couldn't bite on it, etc. Some prefer it though. The 0 type is still good enough not to get those wrinkles around the lips though :) More important to women I hear...
 
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