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Who do I have to kill to get a Kayfun or Russian 91 (or decent facsimile)

Discussion in 'Rebuildable Atomizer Systems' started by p.opus, Feb 13, 2014.

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  1. p.opus

    p.opus Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 24, 2010
    Coral Springs FL
    I was watching a video with pbusardo and he mentioned that his go to topper was a kayfun. I did some research and I think I'm interested in getting one.

    First of all, let me state. I am typically a mini protank 2 type of guy. I dry burn my coils to clean them and replace the wicking material, but as far as rebuilding the head completely, I suck, and suck bad. My fingers just aren't up to the task.

    I hear that the Kayfun and Russians have a bit more room to work with and are basically a bit more user friendly because you don't have the small confines you have to work with when dealing with rebuilding a Kanger head.

    I also like the fact that they are "tank" systems because I really have no desire to drip, either in my home or out and about.

    So now that I'm looking to get one, I can't find them anywhere. It's like they are permanently out of stock.

    Sure, I could go to Fasttech, and get a cheap clone. But I have a bit of a beef with Fasttech over some "mislabeled" Kanger Mini Protanks, and I'm not really into getting some sort of mystery metal with cheap plating on it.

    Does anyone know where I can find a Kayfun, Russian 91 or quality clone. I can spend between 60 to 100 bucks because I know that it will last. I'm looking into this because as I lower my nic concentration, the throat hit is diminishing, and I really want to substitute the lack of throat hit with flavor, and I'm told these devices are flavor monsters.

    Any suggestions?
  2. vdaedalus

    vdaedalus Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 3, 2013
    Ottawa, Canada
    I ordered a Kayfun Lite Plus just over 24 hours ago from Intaste in Germany, and it's scheduled to be delivered by noon tomorrow (I'm in Canada). If you take a look at their site and get scared away by the price, keep in mind there's 19% tax added that will be subtracted when you use a North American address.

    And even if you decide rebuildables aren't for you, you should be able to sell it and not lose much at all.
  3. jpcwon

    jpcwon Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jan 14, 2014
    North Easton, MA
    I am an ebay guy....I got all four of my Kayfuns (authentic and clones) on Ebay for good prices. The clones are a bit easier to find than the originals, but if you keep looking then they pop up from time to time...HCigar and EHPro make very nice clones...

    I say go for it...I too was hesitant as to whether I wanted to get into building coils, but I quickly caught the is a lot of fun IMO!!

    Sent from my SCH-i705 using Tapatalk
  4. YuckMan

    YuckMan Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 5, 2010
    I have a genuine KFL+ and a EHPRO clone. Cloud 9 has some genuine KFL+ in stock right now, but you'll have to wait a bit for the shipping and it's a bit beyond your 100 limit. I'm perfectly happy with the EHPRO and you can find them all over Ebay. Just make sure you get the + version that has the air flow control.
  5. cantstopwontstop

    cantstopwontstop Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 31, 2013
    I have two clones and both function very well, they're pretty much the same thing and more affordable. But if you have the fund go ahead and get a Russian 91% I just looked at vapor kings website and they have them in stock for 92.50$. As soon as I go back to work and have the cash I'll be buying one myself. Just FYI the clones I have are a Kayfun 3.1 clone by Hcigar - very nice as well as the KFL+ clone from Ehpro, you'll be able to get either of these for under 50$. Good luck they're worth it!!
  6. Steamer861

    Steamer861 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 13, 2014
  7. p.opus

    p.opus Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 24, 2010
    Coral Springs FL
    Thanks for all the quick replies.

    One thing that turned me off of RBA's was my really crappy experience with my attempt at rebuilding my Mini PT2 heads. I can rewick fine, but getting I have a hard time getting the coils right and fitting them into the head body.

    The only reason I'm considering this is that pbusardo says he wants the best flavor for the least work, and that is my sentiment exactly. However some have said that building on a kayfun is EASIER than a PT and others said it is harder. Also do you NEED a torch to torch the coil and prep the ecowool?

    I guess I'm wondering, what am I getting into. Something that I'm gonna say eff it, and get frustrated and requires a lot of practice, or is there enough room for my fat fingers and failing eyes to actually be able to perform....

    Thanks again.
  8. cantstopwontstop

    cantstopwontstop Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 31, 2013
    Nah don't need a torch it just helps get rid of any residual stuff left on your Ekowool. You might get an off flavor for a little while but it'll go away. Kayfuns are much easier than rebuilding those tiny PT heads. Honestly probably easier than any other RBA I own.
  9. tw33k

    tw33k Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

  10. sandt38

    sandt38 Moved On

    Nov 29, 2013
    Summerfield, NC, USA
  11. csantiago1911

    csantiago1911 Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 19, 2013
    United States
    I have bought and built 5 Hcigar kayfun 3.1 clones now. Traded, sold or gifted 3 of them to friends, kept two. All worked great, no leaks, great machining, good materials and vaped amazingly. Go to and get one!
  12. beckdg

    beckdg ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 1, 2013
    i hear good things about the black edition available on ebay. there are a few members that have 4 or 5 versions and seem to like the black edition. mine just came in today, so haven't built on it yet. have lots and lots of new goodies to play around with. though, the build quality looks fantastic.

    for perfect coils, check out the coiling gizmo being discussed here...
  13. downInTn

    downInTn Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 21, 2014
    Ehh, I don't know, I have an easier time with the pro tank 2 coils than my RDA's :?:
  14. sandt38

    sandt38 Moved On

    Nov 29, 2013
    Summerfield, NC, USA
    I have found RDAs take more fiddling than I expected. Simply moving the air holes 1/16 of an inch makes a big difference. Don't give up, because drippers are much nicer than PT2s
  15. ElConquistador

    ElConquistador Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 24, 2013
    I got mine from Vapor Kings a few weeks ago, so I can at least vouch for the company. Transaction went smoothly and shipping was prompt.
  16. fpkites

    fpkites Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 23, 2013
    Edgewater, CO, USA
    EHPro Kayfun 3.1 at my local B&M EHPro Kayfun 3.1

    $59.95, no clue about their shipping charges though. I pick up since they're a couple miles from my house.
  17. heateris

    heateris Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 18, 2012
    I bought the $26 R91 clone & $20 aqua clone from FT and they have both been excellent. I would recommend both.

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  18. Joey13091

    Joey13091 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 9, 2013
  19. jchamb2

    jchamb2 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 8, 2013
    Cleburne, tx
    I have about 4 clones and 1 SvoeMesto Kayfun Lite, the clones are from EHpro, Tobeco and Hcigar. All mine came from Ebay, and I love them. I have 2 Kayfun 3.1s, a Kayfun Line and 2 Kayfun Lite Plus RBAs. My favorite of them all is an EHpro Kayfun Lite Plus clone, and it costs about $40 from Ebay (and most all of the good sellers ship really fast).

    I just use 2 or 3mm silica and 32 gauge kanthal, and they work great for me. I started using Kanger Protank IIs and the mini IIs, and have rebuilt a few. I ALWAYS have problems rebuilding those. The space is very small, it's hard to get the coils small enough to fit into the little space, and then when you do the top "chimney" portion will short it out. I still rebuild them, but I usually have to make 2 coils to get one good one.

    The Kayfuns are much more forgiving, as you have lots more space to work with. Oh, and my "torch" is a bic lighter...
  20. cantstopwontstop

    cantstopwontstop Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 31, 2013

    The kayfun/russian isnt an RDA. RDA's (drippers) are a little harder to build, but the kayfun involves wrapping a coil around some ekowool and wrapping the ends of a wire around 2 screws. It couldn't be easier it they built it for you....
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